Wikidata:Property proposal/Unusually granulated item
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Extra granulated item
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Not done
| Description | Extra granulated item |
|---|---|
| Represents | Wikimedia page outside the main knowledge tree (Q17379835) |
| Data type | Item |
| Example 1 | Abbotsbury (Q306685) → Abbotsbury (Q24665923) |
| Example 2 | Melle (Q20177) → Melle (Q30027441) |
| Example 3 | UFO (Q225344) → Ufo (Q12340062) |
| Planned use | mainly for Ljsbot articles that make an unusual distinction |
| Robot and gadget jobs | Bots can start by changing from duplicate or said to be the same. |
| See also | said to be the same as (P460) |
Motivation
So that over granular item aren't marked as Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920) or said to be the same as (P460), see User talk:Jheald#Lsjbot and Wikimedia duplicated page and search the project chant for cebwiki. This avoids cluttering them up with the "complete" duplicates. While it is clear in this example one if for the settlement and one for the unit, most other projects just have 1 article. Lucywood (talk) 20:25, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
Comment I think I understand the intent here, but I'm not sure how this really improves the situation - is the idea to have some mechanism for distinguishing items we might want to keep from duplicate items that are basically irrelevant that we should try to remove (by merging on cebwiki for instance)? We do have things like facet of (P1269) or part of (P361) if one is somehow contained in the other. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:53, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- The intention here is mainly for items that we generally don't have 2 separate items for but we have to because 1 project makes a distinction (like the UFO DAB page for example). It wasn't just to get rid of ceb articles, of which many should be kept but some are non notable or even don't really exist. Lucywood (talk) 11:43, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- I can quote a different noncebuano example! All languages treat the Winnipeg Jets (now Manitoba Moose (Q1474448)) and Montréal Canadiens (now Laval Rocket (Q27527454)) version of the St. John's IceCaps (Q2297053) as the same franchise, except for French and german, who spin out the Canadiens version as St. John’s IceCaps (2015–2017) (Q19951423). Circeus (talk) 05:46, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- The intention here is mainly for items that we generally don't have 2 separate items for but we have to because 1 project makes a distinction (like the UFO DAB page for example). It wasn't just to get rid of ceb articles, of which many should be kept but some are non notable or even don't really exist. Lucywood (talk) 11:43, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Support I've run into a few cases of this. While some instances may be good matches for partially coincident with (P1382) instead, not all of them are, and having this to deal with the specific case of a wiki or two granulating differently seems a good idea. Circeus (talk) 05:46, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Not done Not enough support.--Micru (talk) 13:52, 19 December 2018 (UTC)