Wikidata:Property proposal/Tretyakov Gallery artist ID

‎Tretyakov Gallery artist ID

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Description	identifier for an artist at the My Tretyakov online collection
Represents	My Tretyakov (Q127510215)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	\d
Example 1	Nikolay Sergeevich Tretyakov (Q18156088) → 137369
Example 2	Mikhail Vrubel (Q215100) → 136727
Example 3	Viktor Vasnetsov (Q204138) → 136724
Source	https://my.tretyakov.ru/app/gallery
Number of IDs in source	864 (as of 2024-07-16)
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://my.tretyakov.ru/app/gallery?author=$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Russia (Q10803886), WikiProject Visual arts (Q13627814)

Motivation

Tretyakov Gallery is one of the most famous Russian visual arts museums. It maintains My Tretyakov project which offers wide access to the Tretyakov Gallery collection. Every author in My Tretyakov has an id by which you can quickly find all of his works.

• My Tretyakov doesn't provide a page with brief description for any artist, instead if you want to see some info about an artist, you have to open a page of one of his works;
• My Tretyakov doesn't have an alphabetical index of authors, best you can get is a drop-down "artist" menu in "Virtual Gallery";
• You can get a json of authors by following this link: https://my.tretyakov.ru/api/v1/gallery/get/
• A small amount of ids correspond to organization instead of a person;
• Other similar online collections of Russian museums: Pushkin Museum artist ID (P12715), Virtual Russian Museum artist ID (P12716), Museum of the Russian Academy of Arts artist ID (P12894), Wikidata:Property proposal/Hermitage Museum artist ID

I don't quite understand how to quickly match people by their birth/death years since this data is shown in uncommon place. Podbrushkin (talk) 20:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

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•  Support --MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 12:19, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
• @Podbrushkin: I was about to create this property but the examples in the proposal don't seem to have any results. The formatter URL seems to work fine (e.g. https://my.tretyakov.ru/app/gallery?author=138196) so do you know what happened to those specific artists in the examples? --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 09:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Lewis Hulbert Looks like ids of these artists have been changed. Now they are: Tretyakov, Vrubel, Vasnetsov. Does it mean ALL ids have been changed? Does it mean they will be changed in future too? I don't know. Podbrushkin (talk) 12:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)