User talk:Mateusz Konieczny

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Best regards! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:55, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: może być tego więcej

Hej! Ta edycja ma znacznik #drag-n-drop, co oznacza, iż błędne linkowanie zostało przeniesione ręcznie (przeciągnięte mówiąc ściślej, bo tak działa #drag-n-drop) z plWiki, przy pomocy narzędzia Yarla. Pewnie nie zwróciłem uwagi pracując szybko, albo etykieta była wtedy myląca. To nie był żaden automat, więc nie sądzę, żeby to była seria. Generalnie naszym największym wrogiem, jako polskojęzycznych edytorów Wikidanych, jest niechlujstwo naszych koleżanek i kolegów na plWiki, którego efekty mimowolnie czasem tu przenosimy :( Powerek38 (talk) 17:48, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

religious art (Q2864737)

Can you please stop removing art genre? Religious art is an instance of an art genre, not a subclass of. By removing it you're causing thousands of constraint violations. Multichill (talk) 14:36, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This query may be of interest regarding your problems with subclass-of

Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples#Some_classes_with_both_physical_and_non-physical_super-classes. Enjoy! JesseW (talk) 02:40, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User talk page created

I placed a question on User talk:Mateusz Konieczny/failing testcases which was thus created; I hope that's okay with you. Please let us know if you want comments on your test cases placed somewhere else. SM5POR (talk) 13:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SM5POR: - commenting there is 100% fine, maybe this page can be moved into different space if userspace can make people hesitate?Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:49, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love for you to try out my warning gadget

I think it's (barely) usable now, and I'd love any feedback. It currently requires copying a mass of Javascript from User:JesseW/common.js but if you are willing to do that, let me know how it goes! Also, additional conflicting items would be very helpful, as well as suggestions about wording for the error messages. Note that it only handles editing of subclass-of properties so far, not instance-of. JesseW (talk) 02:47, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is now more complete (includes instance-of, works on selecting a new value, not just after saving, more conflicting properties added) and separated out into its own file, so you can use it just by adding the following to your Special:MyPage/common.js.

mw.loader.load('//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:JesseW/conflicting_superclass_warnings.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); // [[User:JesseW/conflicting_superclass_warnings.js]]

Very glad for any feedback! JesseW (talk) 02:32, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JesseW: Hi, coming from the topic below I just see this message. Are you aware that this can be done thanks to statements in Wikidata ? disjoint union of (P2738)

is designed to put what you hardcode in your script in statements. classification.js uses them to warn when a class is an instance of several disjoint classes, or if a class is a subclass of disjoint classes. I think you might be interested considering this is more or less what you are trying to do, it seems. author TomT0m / talk page 11:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I didn't know that! When I get time, I'll look into doing it that way. The script is still useful for providing a UI around it, in any case. JesseW (talk) 01:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Failing testcase and disjointness statements

Hi, I wonder of how your "failing testcase" work. It seems to me there is a significant overlap with the disjoint union of (P2738) statements, but I'm not sure everything you put in the testcase is captured by the statements ?

The classification.js script uses them to find and visualize problems in the ontology. author TomT0m / talk page 11:46, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TomT0m: I am checking what is linked from OpenStreetMap using https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia (and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikidata ). And sometimes real objects with valid links are claimed to be nonexisting. In such case I add them to list with cases looking like

    def test_detecting_castle_as_valid_primary_link(self):
        self.assert_linkability('Q2106892')

    def test_detecting_castle_that_was_used_as_prison_as_valid_primary_link(self):
        self.assert_linkability('Q11913101')

    def test_detecting_reconstructed_castle_as_valid_primary_link(self):
        self.assert_linkability('Q2461065')

and as long as Wikidata is classifying them as events/abstract objects/physical process etc my reports will complain, and I paste their outcome on my page. "disjoint union of (P2738) statements" not familiar with them, not sure how they can be used Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I corrected it was not disjoint union with but disjoint union of. One of the most useful example is on the entity class and expressed that an entity can not be both an instance of abstract object and concrete object (and also, but less importantly maybe, that there are no entities that are neither abstract or concrete). This is some kind of generalization of what you are trying to do, I think, expressed dynamically with statements. It's used by the classification.js script to find problems in the ontology when you navigate and do analysis, such as this on the side related to the religious statue example you found, dynamically. So

. It's also use to generate database reports thanks to complex constraints which also find some problems in the ontology. One random problem taken in this list is on hypocorism (Q1130279) that if you navigate on after activating the classification gadget allows you to go to the disjoint statement that entails the problem, and see the same kind of visualization the screenshot above can show but in this specific case. author TomT0m / talk page 12:07, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]