Talk:Q559618
Autodescription — fictional universe (Q559618)
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[edit]fictitious? --Fractaler (talk) 08:28, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
@M!dgard: you said
I think a fictional universe is more the whole setting, not necessarily a place. Consider the Star Wars universe, it has many places, and "Star Wars" is not what you'd call a place
but I would think that our universe is a place, so either the word universe is not used literally in the phrase "fictional universe" or a fictional universe can indeed be a place. I think the rule of thumb could be: could someone conceivably visit [parts of] it? The answer as far as I can think is "yes" in fiction. Although, some fictional characters visit multiple 'physical' universes (such as by wormhole travel), so in such cases would they inhabit a fictional multiverse? Arlo Barnes (talk) 00:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Arlo Barnes, M!dgard: I think I agree with M!dgard here. I just had a look at the list of fictional locations and I do not think James Bond (Q844), Tolkien's legendarium (Q81738) or Pirates of the Caribbean (Q384426) do belong there. However instance of (P31)fictional universe (Q559618) makes sense to me. --Haansn08 (talk) 22:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
After a year of editing items, I have come around from my former argument. Ultimately the concept fiddling matters less than 'does it go in from narrative universe (P1080)/takes place in fictional universe (P1434) or narrative location (P840)?', since that makes an item directly usable; queries checking against subclasses and such are secondary. Arlo Barnes (talk) 23:16, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Setting vs Fictional Universe
[edit]I think that the fictional universe cannot be a subclass of setting. A setting is the time and geographic location, and elements of setting include culture, historical period, geography and hour, but not characters. Fictional universe includes all of that and also the plot(s), theme, fictional history and different settings. Fantastoria (talk) 08:10, 4 August 2021 (UTC)