Property talk:P706
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located on the specified (geo)physical feature. Should not be used when the value is only political/administrative (P131) or a mountain range (P4552).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P706#Type Q2221906, Q3895768, Q618123, Q634, Q3099911, Q486972, Q1322005, Q1190554, Q3405827, Q9346860, Q3238337, Q271669, Q4989906, Q860861, Q2075301, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P706#Value type Q2221906, Q3895768, Q618123, Q82794, Q3405827, Q9346860, Q3238337, SPARQL
if [item A] has this property (located in/on physical feature (P706)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P706#Contemporary, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P706#Scope, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P706#Entity types
This property is being used by:
Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.) |
Use for events?
[edit]can this property also be used for the site of an event? --Shisma (talk) 09:58, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- If you're talking about an organized event, there is P540 (P540). For places like (host) cities, you could use this, though it's also overlapping with located in the administrative territorial entity (P131).--Kompakt (talk) 08:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- "Event" must have been missunderstood, changed the Swedish label in P540 now. -- Lavallentalk(block) 09:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- No, a city is not a terrain feature, so it's not appropriate here. This is intended for objects (including other terrain features) that are located on a single terrain feature (lake, island, mountain, sea, etc.). For the location of an event, P766 (P766) is appropriate. Superm401 - Talk 01:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
how about stuff like Middle Ages (Q12554) happend in Europe (Q46)? --Shisma (talk) 08:59, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- The Middle Ages was a time period, so in my opinion it doesn't fit as something located on a physical terrain feature. Superm401 - Talk 01:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- You can say Burning Man (Q152518)located in/on physical feature (P706)Black Rock Desert (Q880529) but this is a bit exceptional. In general, events have a "location" in an arena or other venue. Filceolaire (talk) 00:07, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
"in" as well as "on"?
[edit]Is this property supposed to be used for items located in a geographic feature as well as on? For example: The city Visby (Q54757) is located on the island Gotland (Q1027830), but Gotland (Q1027830) is located in Baltic Sea (Q545). Is this property usabe for both? /Esquilo (talk) 11:55, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hehe, hålla isär den stora prepositionsförvirringen i ett mångspråkigt projekt som det här är nog meningslöst, när vi inte ens på svwp klarar att hålla isär skånska begrepp från rikssvenska, se sv:talk:Råå. -- Lavallen (talk) 12:07, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- The discussion sv:talk:Råå is about syntax, my question was about semantics, or; "What does this proprty apply to?" rather than "What should we call this property?". /Esquilo (talk) 08:16, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- Neither do I care about the exact name of a property. But since prepositions are so volatile in translations, it's hard to give a welldefined answer by using prepositions. I have seen proposals that this property also should be used to describe that a city (or whatever) is located next to a river, lake or sea. Visby is then both located on the island of Gotland and by the Baltic sea. But I guess there is still a separate property for the latter relation somewhere. -- Lavallen (talk) 09:07, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it can be used for both. Note the original proposal (above) gave separate examples of an island in both an ocean and a lake. It also specifically said it can be used when the domain (current item) is a town (similar to Visby (Q54757)). Superm401 - Talk 03:41, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'll answer my own question: No. located in or next to body of water (P206) is used for items located in a waterbody like Gotland (Q1027830) located in or next to body of water (P206) Baltic Sea (Q545). /Esquilo (talk) 11:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, it seems that located in or next to body of water (P206) has a slightly different meaning: "next to" not "in". Los Angeles is probably p206 Pacific Ocean (because it faces it), Paris is probably p206 the Seine River (even though it is a bit different, as the river flows through it) but I do not think it would be correct to use the same property to say Île de la Cité is in the Seine River. I guess we should use p706 for that ? --Zolo (talk) 12:23, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
- I'll answer my own question: No. located in or next to body of water (P206) is used for items located in a waterbody like Gotland (Q1027830) located in or next to body of water (P206) Baltic Sea (Q545). /Esquilo (talk) 11:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Broadening the property
[edit]I wonder if we might be able to broaden this property to something like "located in/on physical feature". This would allow us to describe outer space (Q4169) located in/on physical feature (P706) Universe (Q1). --Izno (talk) 00:33, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- Ok to me. -- Lavallen (talk) 08:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- I thought about this later, and that can more easily be described with the "part of" relation. Silly me. :) --Izno (talk) 19:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Should this property be used for multiple features?
[edit]For example, a town covers two nearby islands. Should this property be created with 2 values, one for each island? —seav (talk) 02:26, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
- Do you have a pertinent example? --Izno (talk) 13:14, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
- Sure. The municipality of Rapu-Rapu (Q493362) is located on two islands: Rapu-rapu Island (Q499556) and Batan Island (Q724971). See the image to the right for an illustration. —seav (talk) 15:39, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
- Using two values seems reasonable to me. --Srittau (talk) 16:18, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
- Sure. The municipality of Rapu-Rapu (Q493362) is located on two islands: Rapu-rapu Island (Q499556) and Batan Island (Q724971). See the image to the right for an illustration. —seav (talk) 15:39, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Confusing (English) description?
[edit]The English description says "landform or body of water", yet the Wikidata item of this property (P1629) is landform (Q271669) - which is definitely solid. We also have located in or next to body of water (P206) (the Wikidata item of this property (P1629) is body of water (Q15324)), so there's seems to be some overlap. Robevans123 (talk) 21:31, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, there is overlap. The difference is that P206 can include "near" position while P706 is necessarily "inside". --Infovarius (talk) 10:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Infovarius, for nearly past four years it didn't say "body of water" in English description and based on English label/description it was generally clear that located in or next to body of water (P206) instead should be used for bodies of water. See also #"in" as well as "on"? above, where it's concluded that "in" in label isn't necessary. (P206 now appears to be used for both "next to" and "in".) So I think this overlap should not have been reintroduced by changing the English label the way you did. This way it's unclear which property should be used or if values should be duplicated. I'd instead adjust labels in some other languages that didn't quite match English one. 2001:7D0:81DA:F780:7863:A95D:A481:D81C 08:51, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Inverse Property
[edit]Does this property need an inverse property? Do we have existing properties which could be use? Please see Bukovina (Q105206), Northern Bukovina (Q2387700), Southern Bukovina (Q2092983) as examples. -- T.seppelt (talk) 14:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
See Property_talk:P5130#updates needed.
--- Jura 09:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- What's the problem with using located in/on physical feature (P706) really?
- I wonder the same. There is not much controversy about the usage in this property-talk anyway. /ℇsquilo 11:43, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Correct property to use for which island/landmass something is on?
[edit]Just asking because I don't see a lot of usage of this in general. For instance, if I wanted to add a claim to Q183360 (Lake Toba) indicating it's on the island of Sumatra, is P706 what I should use? Keenan Pepper (talk) 22:14, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, this one would be the right property. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 08:31, 22 June 2020 (UTC)