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W3C TAG meeting 24-26 March 2010 in Cambridge, MA, USA

Noah Mendelsohn, Dan Connolly, Jonathan Rees, Tim Berners-Lee, T.V. Raman, Dan Appelquist, Larry Masinter, John Kemp, Henry Thompson, Ashok Malhotra

Agenda Summary

Logistics

Preparation

See "(required reading)" annotations in agenda items below.

Agenda Details

This is a preliminary list of topics. It is not not in order, is somewhat rough and incomplete, etc.

1. Convene, review agenda
   • Scribes: TAG members are encouraged to sign up by email in advance of the meeting
   • Roll call
   • F2F Main Goals: TBD
2. Joint session w/HTML WG Chairs:
   • On Wed. morning, co-chairs of the HTML WG will join us in person to discuss topics of mutual interest.
   • W3C HTML Working Group Status Report (November, 2009 - March, 2010)
   • NEED TO GATHER LIST OF TOPICS & CROSS-REFERENCE TAG ACTIONS
   • Some topics to discuss:
     • HTML5 CR Plans
3. Meeting with Jeff Jaffe:
   • We will have a 60 or 90 minute get acquainted session with incoming W3C CEO, Jeff Jaffe. (currently working with Marisol to set a time)
   • The overall goal is to introduce the TAG to Jeff, understand his interests and priorities, start to explore how we can help him to be more effective, etc.
   • Some specific issues TAG members may wish to discuss include:
     • The TAG's impact and effectiveness within W3C and on the community as a whole
     • Web security (also noting Jeff's postings on Secure Natural Communications)
4. HTML 5 review: ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41): HTML5 Doctypes, Media-types, & support for older versions
   • Note from Noah to HTML WG chairs: "TAG work on HTML Doctypes, Versioning, etc." NOTE: HTML WG has asked for input by 23 March, and in Noah's note he suggests TAG will attempt to have a response by end of this F2F.
   • ACTION-364: on - Dan Connolly - Ask HTML WG team contacts to make a change proposal re issue-53 mediatypereg informed by HT's analysis and today's discussion - Due: 2010-02-25 - PENDING REVIEW
   • ACTION-393: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Update HTML WG co-chairs along the lines of ... DOCTYPE... workflow... media type.. - Due: 2010-03-09 - PENDING REVIEW
   • Note from Dan reporting some progress
   • HTML WG ISSUES:
     • HTML WG ISSUE 4: HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs
     • HTML WG ISSUE 53: Need to update media type registrations
5. HTML 5 review: ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54): HTML5 Decentralized Extensibility
   • (somewhat related) ACTION-113: on - Henry S. Thompson - HT to a) revise composition.pdf to take account of suggestions from Tim & Jonathan and feedback from email and b) produce a new version of the Elaborated Infoset finding, possibly incorporating some of the PDF - Due: 2010-03-16 - OPEN
   • ACTION-356: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Work with Carine Bournez to schedule followup meeting on xmlnames followup discussion - Due: 2010-03-27 - OPEN
   • ACTION-357: on - Henry S. Thompson - Elaborate the DPD proposal to address comments from #xmlnames and tag f2f discussion of 2009-12-10, particularly wrt integration with XML specs and wrt motivation - Due: 2010-03-16 - OPEN
   • ACTION-374: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Schedule discussion of broader extensibility mechanisms question (including this) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2010Jan/0043.html - Due: 2010-04-01 - OPEN
   • ACTION-396: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Henry to draft emails for NM to send to HTML WG chairs and to Liam MS authors encouraging a change proposal wrt distr. extensibility by 23 March - Due: 2010-03-05 - PENDING REVIEW (email from Noah to HTML WG chairs)
6. ISSUE-24: Content-type override
   • Goals: Discuss what (if anything) can be done by the TAG to improve the situation of content-type mis-labeling errors and reporting; Discuss the requirements for a content-sniffing algorithm given the constraints discussed in Authoritative Metadata, and in relation to the content-sniffing draft proposed in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-abarth-mime-sniff-04; Establish any updates to Authoritative Metadata and Self-describing Web findings based on these discussions; Discuss other instances of sniffing, as noted by Larry in email to TAG
   • ACTION-370: on - Henry S. Thompson - HST to send a revised-as-amended version of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Dec/0068.html to the HTTP bis list on behalf of the TAG - Due: 2010-03-09 - OPEN
   • ACTION-376: on - Daniel Appelquist - Send to www-tag a pointer to and brief summary of Mobile Web Best Practices working group's "Guidelines for Web Content Transformation Proxies" and its implications for content sniffing : http://www.w3.org/TR/ct-guidelines/ - Due: 2010-03-17 - OPEN
   • ACTION-386: on - Larry Masinter - Review draft-barth-sniff-4 and send comments, cc TAG - Due: 2010-04-08 - OPEN
   • ACTION-387: on - Henry S. Thompson - Review JK/NM's stuff on sniffing, authoritative metadata, self-describing web, incl. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jan/0025.html - Due: 2010-03-17 - OPEN
   • ACTION-399: on - John Kemp - Prepare F2F discussion of sniffing, being sure to check status of other pertinent actions - Due: 2010-03-04 - OPEN
   • Email from Larry Masinter: What is "the type of X" if X doesn't have a declared type?
   • Email from John Kemp: About sniffing
7. ISSUE-31 (metadatainURI-31): Secrets in URIs
   • Goal of this session: the TAG hopes to frame questions relating to secrets in URIs to prepare for review by the security community.
   • ACTION-278: on - Jonathan Rees - Draft changes to 2.7 of Metadata in URIs to cover the "Google Calendar" case - Due: 2010-02-07 - CLOSED
   • ACTION-394: on - John Kemp - Compare Noah and Tyler's proposals on this subject - Due: 2010-03-17 - OPEN (Why is this action associated with tagSoupIntegration? Suggest we change to metadataInURI-31)
   • Informal "cheat sheet" from Jonathan Rees on ACTION-278 (required reading)
   • Pertinent section of Metadata in URI finding (required reading)
   • Mashing with permission (the Web-Key paper) by Tyler Close (required reading)
   • Comments on web-keys from Noah & response from Tyler and thread that follows (required reading)
   • ACTION-341: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Follow up with Thomas about security review activities for HTML5 - Due: 2010-03-12 - OPEN
8. HTTP Semantics: ISSUE-57 (HttpRedirections-57): The use of HTTP Redirection
   • Email from Jonathan reporting on AWWSW status (required reading)
   • ACTION-201: on - Jonathan Rees - Report on status of AWWSW discussions - Due: 2010-03-15 - PENDING REVIEW
9. Web Application Architecture: Taxonomy of Web Application Structures
   • ACTION-352: on - John Kemp - Integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications - Due: 2010-03-08 - PENDING REVIEW
   • A proposed taxonomy from John Kemp (required reading)
   • ACTION-401: on - Ashok Malhotra - Ask WebApps working group to review John Kemp's taxonomy - Due: 2010-03-18 - OPEN
10. Web Application Architecture: Client-side storage
    • ACTION-354: on - Ashok Malhotra - Review client side storage apis (web simple storage etc.), looking for architectural issues or other critical problems... or interesting design features the TAG should know about - Due: 2010-03-08 - PENDING REVIEW
    • Emails from Ashok: TAG Action-354 Review client-side storage API's and followup email (both required reading)
11. ISSUE-50 (URNsAndRegistries-50): Persistent naming
    • ACTION-351: on - Henry S. Thompson - Look into a workshop on persistence... perhaps the June 2010 timeframe - Due: 2010-03-16 - OPEN
    • Email from Jonathan summarizing what Henry and Jonathan have been discussing regarding persistent HTTP-based naming (required reading)
    • ACTION-402: on - Jonathan Rees - Summarize JAR's message to HT re HTTP-based naming and put it on the agenda - Due: 2010-03-18 - PENDING REVIEW (see email from Jonathan)
    • Email from Larry Masinter pointing out availability of an RFC 3187-bis initial draft
    • Email from Jonathan Rees announcing On URIs and trust (late addition to agenda, but short enough to make required reading anyway)
12. Web Application Architecture: URIs and Identification for Web Applications
    • ACTION-353: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Do just a bit of work framing some issues around identification for Ajax apps (remembering the merged maps use case) - Due: 2010-03-08 - PENDING REVIEW
    • Email from Noah: Client-side identification in Ajax applications (required reading)
13. Web Application Architecture: Security, Policy & privacy
    • ACTION-397: on - Ashok Malhotra - Frame F2F discussion on geolocation and geopriv, with help from DKA - Due: 2010-03-10 - PENDING REVIEW
    • Email from Ashok framing discussion on geolocation & "geoprivacy" (required reading)
    • IETF Geopriv response to Geolocation last call and respnse from geolocation WG. See also concerns from John Morris of Center for Democracy and Technology (all required reading)
14. ISSUE-27 (IRIEverywhere-27): Promoting IRIs - Closing ISSUE-27
    • ACTION-398: on - Larry Masinter - Prepare plan for resolving issue-27 IRIEverywhere for F2F discussion - Due: 2010-03-10 - PENDING REVIEW
    • Proposal from Larry for closing ISSUE-27 (required reading)
    • Larry's note references earlier email from Henry Thompson on IRIs, LEIRI, etc. (required reading)
15. Administrative issues:
    • Future TAG F2F meetings
      • Henry expects to offer Edinburgh as a meeting location in June
    • W3C management solicits (member-only) intentions from working groups regarding participation in November TPAC (response due 16 April 2010).
    • Mailing lists
16. Action item review:
    • Pending review actions in Tracker
    • Overdue actions in Tracker
    • Open actions in Tracker