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no I read something about this recently! 

it is a combination of: 

projectionists used to well trained union workers now they are mostly some guy who works in the cinema and hits play without adjusting any levels

boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done

 directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)

sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored

tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up

a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen

film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last

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aechlys

Sorry, I had to say some things about this post. I don't think it's their fault, it just seems like they're relaying what they read somewhere, so I'll share what I know.

“boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done”

That’s not the case. They absolutely get in, and when they can't get in, actors get mic'd. Sometimes they'll get mic'd and the boom op will still work.

"directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)"

Also not the case, production is anal af about sound on the day. I have seen PAs sent to next door construction sites(!!!) to ask them to maybe stop drilling/banging/working for a few hours or at least not while cameras are rolling. Yes the construction people are generally paid money for the inconvenience. Even adjacent productions can sometimes yell at each other with noise complaints if they're sharing a stage complex.

"sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored"

I've maybe only ever seen that happen once because they were running out of time. Additional takes are absolutely done if sound is terrible. In fact things will even sometimes stop so that mics can be fixed on actors to correct bad sound.

"tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up"

That's not the case. Gennies are set up down the block or even around the corner from shooting. If, god forbid, they are still being heard they will absolutely be moved, but the set Electricians are almost always more professional than that.

"a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen"

That's between the actor, the director, and god tbh

"film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last"

Not really- part of their job is to ensure the whole package. If a director actively disregards sound or the requests from sound, the opinion of the director amongst the crew generally falls a bit. There is usually good communication and accommodation between departments on sets.

I can't comment on movie theatre projectionists- I don't know enough about it. During post production, part of the director and producers' jobs is to make sure the sound mixing comes out well and is done properly. The sound media is there, but if those people decide to do something weird with it? Well.....

But ime it's not generally an on-set issue, it's what they do with everything during post production. so the places and people involved in that are where you're gonna wanna look probably.

"we prioritized sound by asking the guys next door to stop jackhammering" is like saying "we prioritized cinematography by not putting a blindfold on the DP"

It costs money and cooperation, neither of which a worksite has to accept, to ask people to stop working, so it's not some small "simple" thing.

literally everything in film production costs money and cooperation. what i'm saying is, it is required. it is baseline. it does not constitute "being anal af about sound"

The points you seem to be, intentionally or not, missing are:

1. People out on the street can do whatever they want and don't have to take money to be quiet. It's not a guarantee, it's a goal. That's the tradeoff of working outside, therefore it is impossible to "require" something uncontrollable.

2. Mixing exists. Most of the problems people complain about in theatres are due to poor mixing in post.

Tell your husband I said hi.

the point i am making, and you are avoiding, is that you have only the most cursory understanding of what decent sound requires. your observations of absolutely basic accommodations for sound do not mean sound is valued equal to photography on set. the sound pros quoted in that article are right and you are wrong.

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rogha

no I read something about this recently! 

it is a combination of: 

projectionists used to well trained union workers now they are mostly some guy who works in the cinema and hits play without adjusting any levels

boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done

 directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)

sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored

tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up

a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen

film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last

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aechlys

Sorry, I had to say some things about this post. I don't think it's their fault, it just seems like they're relaying what they read somewhere, so I'll share what I know.

“boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done”

That’s not the case. They absolutely get in, and when they can't get in, actors get mic'd. Sometimes they'll get mic'd and the boom op will still work.

"directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)"

Also not the case, production is anal af about sound on the day. I have seen PAs sent to next door construction sites(!!!) to ask them to maybe stop drilling/banging/working for a few hours or at least not while cameras are rolling. Yes the construction people are generally paid money for the inconvenience. Even adjacent productions can sometimes yell at each other with noise complaints if they're sharing a stage complex.

"sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored"

I've maybe only ever seen that happen once because they were running out of time. Additional takes are absolutely done if sound is terrible. In fact things will even sometimes stop so that mics can be fixed on actors to correct bad sound.

"tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up"

That's not the case. Gennies are set up down the block or even around the corner from shooting. If, god forbid, they are still being heard they will absolutely be moved, but the set Electricians are almost always more professional than that.

"a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen"

That's between the actor, the director, and god tbh

"film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last"

Not really- part of their job is to ensure the whole package. If a director actively disregards sound or the requests from sound, the opinion of the director amongst the crew generally falls a bit. There is usually good communication and accommodation between departments on sets.

I can't comment on movie theatre projectionists- I don't know enough about it. During post production, part of the director and producers' jobs is to make sure the sound mixing comes out well and is done properly. The sound media is there, but if those people decide to do something weird with it? Well.....

But ime it's not generally an on-set issue, it's what they do with everything during post production. so the places and people involved in that are where you're gonna wanna look probably.

"we prioritized sound by asking the guys next door to stop jackhammering" is like saying "we prioritized cinematography by not putting a blindfold on the DP"

It costs money and cooperation, neither of which a worksite has to accept, to ask people to stop working, so it's not some small "simple" thing.

literally everything in film production costs money and cooperation. what i'm saying is, it is required. it is baseline. it does not constitute "being anal af about sound"

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rogha

no I read something about this recently! 

it is a combination of: 

projectionists used to well trained union workers now they are mostly some guy who works in the cinema and hits play without adjusting any levels

boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done

 directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)

sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored

tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up

a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen

film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last

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aechlys

Sorry, I had to say some things about this post. I don't think it's their fault, it just seems like they're relaying what they read somewhere, so I'll share what I know.

“boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done”

That’s not the case. They absolutely get in, and when they can't get in, actors get mic'd. Sometimes they'll get mic'd and the boom op will still work.

"directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)"

Also not the case, production is anal af about sound on the day. I have seen PAs sent to next door construction sites(!!!) to ask them to maybe stop drilling/banging/working for a few hours or at least not while cameras are rolling. Yes the construction people are generally paid money for the inconvenience. Even adjacent productions can sometimes yell at each other with noise complaints if they're sharing a stage complex.

"sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored"

I've maybe only ever seen that happen once because they were running out of time. Additional takes are absolutely done if sound is terrible. In fact things will even sometimes stop so that mics can be fixed on actors to correct bad sound.

"tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up"

That's not the case. Gennies are set up down the block or even around the corner from shooting. If, god forbid, they are still being heard they will absolutely be moved, but the set Electricians are almost always more professional than that.

"a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen"

That's between the actor, the director, and god tbh

"film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last"

Not really- part of their job is to ensure the whole package. If a director actively disregards sound or the requests from sound, the opinion of the director amongst the crew generally falls a bit. There is usually good communication and accommodation between departments on sets.

I can't comment on movie theatre projectionists- I don't know enough about it. During post production, part of the director and producers' jobs is to make sure the sound mixing comes out well and is done properly. The sound media is there, but if those people decide to do something weird with it? Well.....

But ime it's not generally an on-set issue, it's what they do with everything during post production. so the places and people involved in that are where you're gonna wanna look probably.

"we prioritized sound by asking the guys next door to stop jackhammering" is like saying "we prioritized cinematography by not putting a blindfold on the DP"

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rogha

no I read something about this recently! 

it is a combination of: 

projectionists used to well trained union workers now they are mostly some guy who works in the cinema and hits play without adjusting any levels

boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done

 directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)

sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored

tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up

a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen

film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last

Okay But I also kinda have a gripe with sound engineers thinking they did a great job because it sounds good in their thousand dollar headphones and then delivering it to an audience trying to watch it on a laptop.

the headphones all sound pros use are made by sony and they cost $100. the blame does not lie with the sound department

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rogha

no I read something about this recently! 

it is a combination of: 

projectionists used to well trained union workers now they are mostly some guy who works in the cinema and hits play without adjusting any levels

boom operators aren’t allowed to get in as close as they used to and miking performers well isn’t routinely done

 directors don’t appreciate setting up and getting good sound on the day sound on the day assuming everything can be fixed in post (it can’t)

sound operators who say ‘hey actually we need one more take of that for sound’ are routinely ignored

tight turnaround and schedules means that the noisier equipment (generators etc) is set up closer and closer to where they’re filming so mixers have to try hide the sound of noisy diesel engines etc that the mics are picking up

a mumble style of delivery is increasingly popular among actors who want to appear naturalistic on screen

film and television is very much considered a visual medium so directors are trained to think of visuals first when filming and sound last

spouse used to be a sound mixer and a director once asked him "why are all sound guys so bitter?" ⬆️ this is why

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greinkeephus

Honestly feel so lucky that MY baseball team are the ones pushing the homoeroticism dial up to eleven in MLB

HONESTLY FEEL SO LUCKY THAT MY BASEBALL TEAM ARE THE ONES PUSHING THE HOMOEROTICISM DIAL UP TO ELEVEN IN MLB

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Mongolian history class, 2022, start of the semester. We're having a discussion on animal slaughter, featuring the one Mongolian student in our school.

The student explains that he's slaughtered animals himself, and there are two ways of doing it that avoid the spilling of blood. For a small animal like a chicken, you reach up into the chest of the animal and sever the arteries. For a larger animal like a camel, there's a spot on the forehead that, when hit hard enough, causes the animal to die instantly.

While this discussion is going on, a couple of the students are sharing something back and forth on their phone

The professor calls this out, asking if what they're sharing is more interesting than Mongolian animal slaughter

The room is dead silent for a few seconds. The two students look at each other awkwardly.

Eventually, one of the students pipes up:

"Well, the queen of England just died."

And without missing a beat, another student:

"Did they hit her on the head like a camel?"

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typhlonectes

this can stand on its own but some context: eric foner is the foremost living scholar on Reconstruction (1865-1877), the radical post-american civil war period in which formerly enslaved Black men, assisted by the US army and the left wing of the federal government, gained the right to vote and became not just participants in democracy but political leaders across the south. white people eventually destroyed Reconstruction with organized violence in the south and indifference in the north, and its history was then rewritten by neoconfederates as an atrocity against innocent white southerners, which is how it was taught until the 1960s (and still is today, in a lot of places).

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Ok it's very funny to laugh at Tuxedo Mask for showing up and doing nothing, but his job was never to actually fight the monsters.

His job was just to show up and believe in Sailor Moon so overwhelmingly resolutely that she remembers she's a fucking demigod long enough for HER to fight the monsters.

Because she's the only one strong enough to do it in the first place, and in this regard Tuxedo Mask is the first example of being "Kenough" in this essay I will

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mygeekcorner

@kawaiipinkbunny is so right for this

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initiala

I said it the other day in a meeting at work and everyone looked at me like I was insane. Please reblog for wider sample size.

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meiringen
Two gold cuff links, Russia, 1894-1918. Plague is an infectious disease caused by bacteria. These cufflinks contain pictures of two different strains of these bacteria. The names of the strains are engraved on the back. The plague-causing bacteria were discovered in 1894. It is believed that these cufflinks were made by Fabergé, the celebrated Russian jeweller. The use of these images on the cufflinks suggests the pride taken in the discipline of bacteriology.
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