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The Eighth Annual Wikimania LGBT Meetup, at Wikimania 2017 in Montreal, will bring together LGBT Wikimedians and other interested parties from all around the globe for two events. All are welcome at this meetup, which will be a friendly-space discussion with a proposed, but no fixed agenda.

There are going to be two separate events:

  1. Meeting at the conference hotel
    • Time: Friday, August 11, 18:15–18:45
    • Location: Le Centre Sheraton, Drummond East
  2. Meeting at BAnQ (off-site)
    • Time: Saturday, August 12, 15:00 as long as it takes (up to 17:00), with an optional activity 13:00–15:00 (registration required for the optional activity, see under “Other Events” below)
    • Location: BAnQ Vieux-Montréal (Gilles-Hocquart Building), Room 2.28 (close to Montreal’s gay village)
    • a group will be setting out from the conference hotel at 14:30—meet at the hotel front door

Proposed Agenda Items

  • Introductions
  • (Saturday only) Brief summary of the Friday meeting
  • Proposed items to be added to the agenda open to all attendees
  • Discussion of LGBT activities within the Wikimedia movement
    • past activities
    • upcoming activities
      • Wikipedia for Piece at World Pride 2019
  • Discussion of LGBT content-building projects
    (Saturday only) Discussion of the history-of-AIDS-activism activity earlier that day
  • Wiki Loves Pride campaign reports challenges, successes and future ideas
  • Discussion: What is the Foundation doing to support LGBT people who live in regions of the world less tolerant of LGBT communities?
WM-LGBT events and processes need to be able to include Wikimedians living in countries where public participation in an LGBT group may put them at risk of harassment or prosecution. Respecting choices of anonymity and confidentiality will remain a necessary part of how WM-LGBT operates.
  • Harassment and discrimination within the Wikimedia movement; prevention vs. reaction. What is the WMF doing and what are they not doing?
  • Communication/collaboration methods for international/multilingual LGBT wikimedia projects
  • gender-binarity issues
  • to be added to

Conference Talks or Other Events that Might Be of Interest to Wikimedia LGBT participants

Conference Talks

Other Events

can afterwards be discussed with those who didn’t make it at Saturday’s meeting at BAnQ

Interested participants

  1. User:Hexatekin
  2. BlaueBlüte (talk) 00:07, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:01, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 07:04, 10 August 2017 (UTC) Potentially, depending on time and agenda.[reply]
  5. Earlyspatz (talk) 13:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Shikeishu (talk) 14:02, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  7. -Another Believer (talk) 17:38, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  8. RachelWex (talk)
  9. --Freddy2001 (talk) 20:27, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Megs (talk) 13:51, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Rich Farmbrough (talk) 17:44, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

Friday

(introductions)

(amending agenda)

Wikipedia for Peace would like to organize a trip to World Pride 2019 in NYC. Open questions:

  • logistics
  • funding
    • travel
    • accomodation
    • food
  • get in touch with World-Pride organizers
  • edit-a-thon?

Contact User:Earlyspatz, if you want to co-organize or participate in the event.

Wikipedia for Peace would like to organise a summer camp in Austria next year where people from all over the world come together to write articles about LGBT activists (similar to this year's camp, where participants wrote about female peace activists in 15 languages; see meta:Wikipedia for Peace Jenbach 2017/Article lists). Feel free to contact User:Shikeishu, if you're interested to be one of the 15 participants or to co-organise.

Wiki Loves Pride, mostly on enwiki, more than 150 articles created or improved in 2017. Successful in the USA, but seemingly less popular in Europe. There is interest to organize an activity in Queensland, Australia, though.
How supportive are non-US chapters of LGBT initiatives?

  • Australia: very
Generally, send notifications to Wikiprojects (based on topic/geography), and send email chapter mailing lists.

Pride-parade imagery on Commons?

  • World Pride Madrid
  • Pride NYC
  • Sydney Mardi Gras might be worth covering.

Where does this imagery go?

  • Commons categories are well-stocked.
  • Articles often less so:
    • Brighton Pride is underrepresented.
    • several pride-related dewiki articles

Wiki float for pride parades?

Wikimedia Serbia: Reaching out to local LGBT organizations for events and initiatives is challenging.

Safety issues around photos:

  • Photograph people from the back.
  • Consider face-recognition systems pose challenges.
    • Even crowd shots can be dangerous.
    • Would, given general-media coverage, caution on the part of Wikimedia, even make a dent?
  • Consider outing issues.
  • Cf. naked bikerides.
  • However, it’s still important to capture and cover events. Can a protocol be established regarding taking and uploading (or taking down) photos?
    • on a case-by-case basis, photos have been taken down
    • blurring could be an option
  • license questions
    • CC licenses cannot be revoked. Is that a flaw?
      • Would a license that recognizes take-down requests for safety purposes even be enforceable outside of Commons?
  • Continue discussion on LGBT user group.

Rather than focusing on coverage glamourous parades, improve coverage of local LGBT pioneers and places that are more relevant to the local communities.

  • However, check first if the persons and places in questions are out and safe.

Mailing list:

  • Facebook group is seen as more convenient.
  • Telegram was considered much safer at WMCon.
    • A group already exists.
  • Whatsapp does not seem to be liked.
  • Security should be taken into consideration.
  • One single solution is unlikely to satisfy and reach everyone.
  • Promote via Twitter.

Saturday

Meeting at BAnQ (off-site)

  • Time: Saturday, August 12, 15:00 as long as it takes (up to 17:00), with an optional activity 13:00–15:00 (registration required for the optional activity, see under “Other Events” below)
  • Location: BAnQ Vieux-Montréal (Gilles-Hocquart Building), Room 2.28 (close to Montreal’s gay village)
  • a group will be setting out from the conference hotel at 14:30—meet at the hotel front door
  • 30 minutes walk
  • 10 minutes by taxi going to Rue Berri and Boul de Maisonneuve E

Attendees

Agenda:

  • Report from the AIDS-activist-history workshop right before: Two participants of the meeting participated in a digitizing workshop of a local queer archive in Montréal. They digitized interviews and documents.
    • local gay archive has
      • interviews with gay activists
      • collection of ephemera
    • Wikipedia response (to opportunities as this)?
      • Signpost article would require some result or project
      • World AIDS Day, Dec. 1?
      • mention on Wiki Loves Pride pages
      • add lists of (LGBT special collections & archives) to Wiki Loves Pride pages for edit-a-thons
  • Communication Channels
    will have to be changed in meta:Wikimedia_LGBT /Header
  • New York event in 2019
    • to be modeled after the successful event at WorldPride 2017, Madrid, Spain
      general idea: bring together a traveling party and the local wiki community
      the traveling party would work, private-edit-a-thon-like, for about two days a a local cultural institution
      the local community would join for other activities (which could include a public edit-a-thon)
    • see also Friday notes
    • Blue Rasberry could help coordinate things; but the NYC chapter cannot put in much management effort.
    • Run the event under the user group’s banner?
    • 15 traveling participants seems realistic, who then could be joined by New Yorkers.
    • NYC chapter should be able to help with the edit-a-thon.
    • things to do
      • contact WorldPride organization
      • check schedule, find good time for edit-a-thon
      • find partner organization (with domain knowledge and content) for edit-a-thon
  • Wikidata
    • modeling gender in Wikidata
      • use qualifiers in conjunction with the vague P21?
        Q365144 may be an obious example, but the individual is unusual is how they identify with respect to time
      • retrospective use of gender terms not in existence at the time
  • mentioning sexual orientation in the lead?
    cf. edit of on 2015-11-11
    (more or less consensus that the mention should be permissible if important in an individual’s media coverage or their work)
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