User talk:WindPower/Archive 5

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Oi, YOU!

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED Problem 16:37, 24 August 2011 (PDT)

Lumbricus Lid Taunt Demonstration Video

Hey Windpower,

hope you remember our talk few hours ago. I wanted to add a Taunt demonstration for the Lumbricus Lid, and other moderators told me it is your area to make decisions of which video to put up, so I show you my 2nd attempt of a recording. This time on the right map!! However!!: I noticed afterwards, that I accidently recorded my ping and stuff in it, so this will re-recorded. I rather would love to know if you are happy with the general recording of the video, since you said 'stand in the middle of the map and do the taunt' xD.

Demonstration Video

Thanks in advance for a reply!! T-Wayne 09:09, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Now, as you know, this can't be part of the weapon demonstration project because it is not a weapon. However, the video should still comply with its technical requirements (which is just a fancy way to say that it has to be good quality). In the case of this video, this means:

• Video must be 720p (current video only goes up to 480p)
• Must not have black bars (current video has black bars on all sides)
• Don't record your ping and stuff, indeed
• In the backpack view, the soldier should be holding the Equalizer, not the rocket launcher
• Also in the backpack view, the mouse should be on the Lumbricus Lid right at the start of the video
• When closing the backpack, you should already have the Equalizer out

That should be all~ Thanks :3 — Wind 17:34, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Allright, I'll re-record the video, keeping in mind all your points mentioned above, shouldn't be too hard to be honest. Black parts appeared, 'cause I've set Fraps recording to 'Half-Size'. That also explains the low quality of my recording. I'll change that, since my usual display of the game is 1650x1080, and should be a great quality for the reference video. However I don't understand your Point 4: "* In the backpack view, the soldier should be holding the Equalizer, not the rocket launcher". The rocketlauncher is primary weapon, and the default one. I can'T de-select it. And the equalizer is a melee weapon. Since those are weapons of different slots, I have to hold both weapons (except I'm wrong again). Oh I thought I was holding the equalizer allready >.<, much to learn I have say Master Yoda ^^ Pinging view will be removed of course, I sometimes don'T notice it appears there x.x

Thank you for your tips, hopefully I can record a satisfying new video for you today :D ^^.

Sincerly, T-Wayne 01:44, 13 August 2011 (PDT)

Videos redone for AA

User:Armisael#Need_to_be_Redone

I've rewatched them, but I tend to miss incredibly obvious thing (ie, the sound track is muted), so I was hoping you could confirm that they're acceptable. Just leave a comment on either user page or my talk page. Thanks! — Armisael 06:06, 13 August 2011 (PDT)

Thank you, Wind!

You can still (c)lick it and talk about, you know, whatever... shrugs and curls hair --SilverHammer 21:38, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

Horseless Headless Horsemann Headtaker Demonstration Video - Taking Heads

Alright, I figured essentially how to get the three first parts done (basic demonstration, ranged use, and speed differences), but for the final part, in which you can steal the heads of another player's head-counting weapon, should I have them be a bot and wielding the Eyelander (essentially the same as the Headtaker), or have another human player with another Headtaker (for the bot that kills, I gathered that I'd have them face a certain direction depending on a key I'd bind a direction to via yaw_offset). -- SyKhotic 13:05, 17 August 2011 (PDT)

You can't have bots wielding unlockable items, so it has to be a human. Wield the Eyelander preferably, so that it shows that it doesn't matter which skin of the Eyelander you're using, heads still transfer. Please post further questions on the project's talk page — Wind 13:44, 17 August 2011 (PDT)

Template

I think that i can be used a template instead a table, because some pages are outdated. What do you think? Dio ★ (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

Sure, why not :3 Poot a proposal on the Crafting talk page~ — Wind 20:39, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

WITCH

Wikichievement	Awarded by	Reason
Code Witch You are one	Moussekateer	Wikichievement unlocked! For writing code that defies the law of Physics. (You witch). (Also I know that isn't a witch in the image).

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moussekateer (talk) • (contribs)

Witch one of you is cryin — Wind 17:22, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

Another problem about Template:Dictionary

Hi, Wind. I've got another problem, sorry~ : |

I noticed that the word Original is shared by Soldier's Rocket launcher, and Pyromancer's Mask's style. Both of them are called "Original" in English. But, in Chinese, we gave them two different names: "原型雷神火炮" and "預設", why we did that was because "original" can be several different meanings in Chinese. And it's not appropriate to use "預設" to describe a weapon, not appropriate to use "原型雷神火炮" to describe a style. Therefore, now the situation is that the style's name was changed to "原型雷神火炮" ,that will be pretty weird if any Taiwanese see that...So I was thinking that could you gave the word "Original" two different positions in Dictionary to solve this?

~www~ 06:02, 25 August 2011 (PDT)

The dictionary cannot have duplicate entries for different things. I don't think the style "original" is defined in the dictionary at all... Where is it? — Wind 11:35, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

I guess that it was in Template:Dictionary/items/styles and has been deleted by WindBot. Now I see that this problem occur for polish translation too and probably not only for it. -- Szumin (talk • contrib) 12:17, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

I see. As I said, however, the dictionary cannot contain duplicate entries, which is why the bot deleted one of the two. It either needs to be in another dictionary entirely, or renamed to something like "original-style" — Wind 12:27, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

So...probably rename it to "original-style" or something is the only way to solve this...? Anyway, thanks for your help, Wind. ~www~ 18:45, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy Birthday

Happy birthday! :D  –  Cructo [T][C] 15:10, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy Birthday Wind - Thank you so much for all your hard work here in the wiki and also for being such a good friend to everyone. You are truly credit to team! Love you loads darling! Many happy returns! BiBi 15:12, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

BIRTHDAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY -- GenCoolio (talk | contribs) 15:15, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy birthday, WindPower! Congrats and enjoy the years yet to come!  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 15:15, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy Birthday WindPooter! :D 15:18, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

OHHHHHHHHH SHIT! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOFO! SS2R 15:21, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Looks like you survived another circle around the sun. Cheers mate and may you survive many more! -- Hefaistus - talk 15:51, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy Birthday Wind, have a good one! I have a beer here so, cheers! Macinzon 16:18, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy Birthday, glorious Wind. Have a great day and enjoy it well :3 16:19, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Oh hey, wassup? Happy Birthday! Also, it just occurred to me you could probably code yourself a cake if you wanted to (make it chocolate with cherries). -- En Ex _(talk) 16:27, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy B-Day Windy, theres your cake :3 Dio ★ (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

A little late, but happy birthday anyway Mr. Codemonkey :3 MogDog66 17:08, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Thanks, pardners :3 You are all kredit, and kredit, and kredit~ — Wind 17:06, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

And you are as well. Sparkle forevermore. —GeminiViRiS Talk · Contribs 17:12, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

France is bacon. WindPoot is France. WindPoot is therefore bacon. Delicious bacon. -RJ 17:15, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy birthday WindPooter! I considered a WindPower wiki with articles on all your awesome achievements but I would have had to start it a longggg time ago :3 —Moussekateer·talk 19:09, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

WindPoot is BEEG WAR HERO! -- OluapPlayer _(t) 19:18, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

A birthday you say? Well in that case let me join the discussion and say Happy Birthday PooterOfWind! Nihilus0(contribs) 19:22, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Forgot to say this to you: HAPPY BIRTHDAY~! 20:27, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

Happy birthday Wind! I ate a cupcake in your honour. :) -- - _{(talk | contribs)} -- 20:31, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

WindPower

WindPower

hai. HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

Happy birthday kredit! All of us luff the great things you do for leetlewiki.
Enjoy dis great day.
seb26 20:13, 26 August 2011 (PDT)

“You're a loooooonnng way from France, boy.” — The Engineer

“It is good day to be Giant Man!” — The Heavy

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About your config

Hello Wind! I've been using your config now and I can't help but notice that, as an Engy, I can't build a Exit! When I press 4 to build the Exit it pulls up a sentry instead! I hope you can help me. Isakcool 07:33, 27 August 2011 (PDT)

Well I'll be stuffed!

Y U NO tell me of your Birthday!?! Now I'm late! Still, fine belated B-Day wishes. Now onto the next reason I'm here: As you may know, I keep my good eye trained on WindBOT's Backpack Checklist, adding ID Badges, Dueling Badges, etc to people's checklists that they didn't add themselves. Thing is, I wanna give specific Levels to people's Dueling Badges (i.e. This guy's Badge is LV 56, while this guy's Badge is LV 27). It's a bit picky, but could you review the criteria for the Dueling Badge type? The Reason I ask is because if I want to show someone has a Gold Dueling Badge or something, I hafta put:

dueling badge = gold

...while I'd rather put:

dueling badge = 56

...to make things less vague. Again, I know it's picky, but could you see if you can make it recognize that values above 24 = Silver, above 49 = gold, and values above 74 = platinum? -- [UGS 2nd]Lancer @nti-tank Rocket 13:42, 27 August, 2011 (UTC)

Wikichievement

Wikichievement	Awarded by	Reason
Show Me Your War Face! Create a damn fine user page.	Koolman	Wikichievement unlocked! Now that there is a fine userpage you've got there.

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Koolman (talk) • (contribs)

Thanks~ — Wind 18:00, 30 August 2011 (PDT)

Server

Sorry if I crashed the server. But as far as I know nothing happend, Armisael and me were only testing some stuff (3 days ago) regarding the Cow Mangler and the Dead Ringer. After that we left. So sorry again if I crashed it somehow =(. Macinzon 05:27, 1 September 2011 (PDT)

API Read

Hey Wind,

I've tried contacting you at IRC but I've got no respounse. I'm intrested in doing TFWiki API Reads request for /ro pages.

More details: It's a medium term goal to provide our users with informations about the game, classes etc. We thought about mirroring the wiki directly but that won't work very well. Then I had the idea of getting the page content from the wiki then embedding it in our website and then providing a link.

Similar how Facebook does with Wikipedia, like /wiki.php?page=Soldier will display our website, our template but the content will be from Soldier/ro.

I know that the pages can be accesed by API without anymore permissions, however we need to talk because as I know there is some API Read limit, the best idea i could imagine is a cronjob every 24h to get the latest version of a page.

What do you say ?

In my opinion will increase the vizibility of Romanian translated articles thus making them worthy.

-- Nightbox _{(t s)} 11:42, 9 September 2011 (PDT)

Sure, there's no way we could stop this from happening anyway if it was a bad thing. But it's not a bad thing, it's more exposure for the Wiki, so go ahead~ Just a mention as a link to the article on wiki.teamfortress.com would be nice — Wind 12:17, 9 September 2011 (PDT)

Cannot be bothered anymore

I'll be honest now. I've grown tired of the wiki. When I started to edit back in TF2Wiki.net, I did it because I liked and wanted to do it. But now I see the wiki as some kind of forced work I have to do because others want me to. My work on the wiki has become tiresome and repetitive. I cannot be bothered to give opinions to anything anymore, expecially Wiki Caps. So remove my mod powers, because I don't want them anymore. Do not count on me for Wiki Cap voting because I will not vote anymore. But note that, personally, I have nothing against anyone. I love the people in here. But the wiki has become a trivial responsibility which I just don't care about now. -- OluapPlayer _(t) 16:54, 11 September 2011 (PDT)

You were good soldier, real good, maybe even the best. ☺ YACK 17:10, 11 September 2011 (PDT)

I'm sorry and tearful to read this, Oluap :( I do hope you will still stick around though, because you were and are still a great person to have around. — Wind 17:28, 11 September 2011 (PDT)

Don't worry your powerful wind head, I'm not leaving the wiki forever. I'll still be around on IRC to annoy you and tease you about the wiki video which will still happen. I'm not there right now because I feel that I insulted the voting with my lack of interest. -- OluapPlayer _(t) 17:33, 11 September 2011 (PDT)

Oine!

Cant skip you either even if ive thanked you so many times before...so, thanks! The Noble Scout _(T/C) 00:43, 12 September 2011 (PDT)

Er

I just wanted to apologize, about the lack of work I've been putting out as of late. It's been pretty hard recently, as I have no stable living space or computer. If you feel it necessary to redact my Wiki Cap until such time as I can put out edits with some stability, I'll completely understand.

I hope everything's going well with you, as well as the wiki and IRC. I miss the hell out of all of it.

Also, happy belated birthday. :3

--SilverHammer 16:03, 14 September 2011 (PDT)

While I certainly appreciate the thought, Wiki cakes are not related to current activity. They're a mark that you've done the work you needed to do to be a valuable contributor, and unless the wiki goes down or something, those contributions are there already. Whether you want to improve the Wiki further is up to you and a very noble thing to do, but this has no relationship to your Wiki cap, it's just a token of selflessness. You should not feel that you "owe" something.

Also thanks~ :3 — Wind 16:20, 14 September 2011 (PDT)

Wanka! :D

Still some Cake left. Even thou i didnt meet up on your birthday, it doesnt mean i forgot it!

Sorry WindPootis! but heers a home made achievement :3 TheNobleScout 03:14, 15 September 2011 (PDT)

Yay thanks~ — Wind 12:20, 15 September 2011 (PDT)

It wasn't me!

I swear, if you just received 5 copies of the same email from me, it wasn't meeeee! I blame...EarthPower. InShane 19:24, 15 September 2011 (PDT)

Scholofyah

Hey Wind! Tis I, Fyahweather! This is my iPhone account at school. I was just wondering, is this allowed?Not Fyahweather 12:51, 16 September 2011 (PDT)

Is what allowed? — Wind 12:53, 16 September 2011 (PDT)

Making two accounts to use.Not Fyahweather 13:54, 16 September 2011 (PDT)

Well I don't know why you would do that, but sure, why not. Not like we can prevent you from doing it anyway — Wind 14:03, 16 September 2011 (PDT)

Couldn't you just log in on your main account? — Armisael (T | C) 14:04, 16 September 2011 (PDT)

Takes too long to type in my long password. Fyahweather 16:46, 16 September 2011 (PDT)

Make a smaller password then.  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 10:26, 17 September 2011 (PDT)

Quotes section

Hey Wind, I was tinkering around with a page for Quote Guidelines, and I thought I'd run it by you. Do you think that after some changes, we might add it to the mainspace? --Piemanmoo 16:50, 20 September 2011 (PDT)

“

Oooh, zat looks good. — The Medic

”

— Wind 17:18, 20 September 2011 (PDT)

Golden Wrench

Vid is gud, but you forgot to show standing Sniper statue. O.o  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 13:47, 22 September 2011 (PDT)

No I didn't, go watch the video again (Also, the sniper in that video was originally only there to get the engineer to say his fourth golden wrench line, not to show the standingness of it. But coincidence has it that he is also a standing statue, so there's the standing statue. It isn't important enough to be worth demonstrating in the already-very-long Saxxy video, however) — Wind 13:50, 22 September 2011 (PDT)

Ah, okay. It was the only class I skipped over while watching the vid. :P  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 13:59, 22 September 2011 (PDT)

You a long stone corridor that turns left. You come face to face with a wikichievement

Wikichievement	Awarded by	Reason
3D Wizard Create a 3D image for the 3D Models project.	Moussekateer	Wikichievement unlocked! Couldn't have done it without your witchcraft :3

"Aye, thanks."

"If I wasn' the man I was I'd kiss ye!" Thanks for the congrats, you almighty engineer! Now im capped mod, and damn proud of it! -- Keisari 11:41, 10 October 2011 (PDT)

Shut up Meg. -RJ 11:50, 10 October 2011 (PDT)

Congrats getting the theme in!

Now the Wiki has its own unique identity! Three cheers for Wind! —GeminiViRiS Talk · Contribs 12:36, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

At first I didn't think it was really deserving of a congratulations, but now I realize that I don't think there's been such a visible change take place at once on the wiki, except the big switch of becoming official of course. Yay — Wind 13:14, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

Iz zo Beau-ti-foule ! Bravo ! Tturbo _{( / )} 13:48, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

It's fantastic! Grats :D --WhistleTeam 15:36, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

So this is where I talk about this? I really like it, good job. Shane Alvarado 15:39, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

Nah, preferably you'd do it in the thread linked at the top of every page right now, but thanks anyway~ — Wind 15:47, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

I don't use the Steam User Forum, but I don't really have anything else to say about it, it's just cool. I'll shut up now. Thanks. Shane Alvarado 16:01, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

That's alright :3 Sorry if that came across as mean >: — Wind 16:01, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

Reminder aboot 3D models

This is a reminder to poot pushy button on 3D model infobox so that leetle men can see Sandvich in bigger glory. -- Firestorm 00:48, 16 October 2011 (PDT)

As a Canadian, I am offended by your use of the word "Aboot", Firestorm. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 03:39, 16 October 2011 (PDT)

As a Canadian, I don't care about one's use of the word "Aboot" or not~

Anyway, the following points need to be clear:

• Where exactly do the buttons show up?
  • In a corner of the model viewer? Which corner?
  • Outside of the model viewing area?
  • Outside of the model selector area?
• Which buttons show up?
  • (2D button on 3D image / 3D button on 2D image) OR (3D button on 3D image / 2D button on 2D image) OR (both buttons present all the time)
• What exactly happens when the users clicks on them?
  • Does it swap out the model viewer by a 2D image?
    • How does it know which 2D image to display?
    • Where does it link? How does it know where to link?
    • Does it simply the fallback (which can contain any wikicode)?
  • Does it swap out the model selector with a 2D version with possibly different variants?
    • How does it know which variants there are?
    • How does it know which 2D variant corresponds to the previously-selected 3D variant?
    • Same question but in the other direction
• Is the 2D/3D choice persistent across page loads?
  • Is there a different preference setting for weapons and non-weapons?
  • What are the defaults?
    • Where are the defaults if the user doesn't have JavaScript enabled?
  • Does it preload the other version?

— Wind 21:44, 16 October 2011 (PDT)

My original suggestion was simply to have a button that would link to the high res image. So on the Sandvich infobox, pressing the button would link you to Media:Sandvich.png. I think it would be located in the corner of the infobox like the current rotation indicator. It would display the current type image (3D on a 3D image) but the button would change when you hover over it to the other one. (3D to 2D).

I think that 2D should be on by default, as this reduces page load times and strain on the Wiki. The 3D is nice, but I don't see it being used more than once or twice per image. Plus, it just looks nicer in my opinion.

As for variants, I'm not really sure how that would work. Either we remove the variants buttons on 2D, or take more images -- Firestorm 17:41, 17 October 2011 (PDT)

Yes, your suggestion was clear and well-defined enough, but since there will have to be a toggle option for hats, this would supersede having a simple link to the high-res 2D image, so I feel it is unnecessary to implement that and go straight for the toggle option. That's why I'm asking details about the toggle instead of the original suggestion~ — Wind 17:46, 17 October 2011 (PDT)

Srcdemo2

I've got some problems and questions about it, Wind. :3 How can I talk to you in person? — Zhnigo 08:54, 20 October 2011 (PDT)

Just PM me or post on either thread — Wind 10:28, 20 October 2011 (PDT)

Userpage

Wind, Do you have any tips On Spusing Up my User page Like yours? -- RRaccoon99 21:56, 4 November 2011 (PDT)

 Nope, as some of it requires custom JavaScript, which cannot be given to regular users for security reasons (anyone could then change your page's javascript and insert some malicious code in there). Sorry >: — Wind 21:58, 4 November 2011 (PDT)

RE/Untranslated Pages

OK. 2 things... A: Just because you guys have wikicaps and all, you think you're all superior to us non-wikicap ones: but suprise suprise, ur not! You dont have to look down on the less fortunate who try their best to contribute. We could be spending time playing TF2 but we choose not to just to try and help others. Its hard enough for us to give up our time,devoting our lesiure to the wiki,Wind.We dont do this for the glory, the fame or even the wikicap, we do this because we want to, so please try not to look down on us to often. And B: I will translate those pages with a little help from my chinese buddies.

Retrieved from "http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User_talk:I'm_a_Force-A-Nature!" — The preceding unsigned comment was added by I'm a Force-A-Nature (talk) • (contribs)

Help with code

Hi Wind, i have a problem :/

Im trying to put a code that if i write any hat name generate and image and a link (like it's now), and if i dont write the parameter (hat, misc1, and misc2) dont show nothing. I dont know how to explain so good. The template is here.

*If i dont write nothing

*If i dont write the parameter

*And if i complete all, are ok.

Thx for the help. Dio ★ | talk 15:48, 8 November 2011 (PST)

Just use

{{#if: {{{parameter-name|}}} | thing to show when the parameter exists | thing to show when it does not exist}}

or

{{#if: {{{parameter-name|}}} | thing to show when the parameter exists}}

— Wind 15:52, 8 November 2011 (PST)

Yay, now works fine :3 Dio ★ | talk 05:27, 9 November 2011 (PST)

PNGCrush optimization

Evenin'. I've been noticing that a lot of the images that have been uploaded lately are interlaced, and from reading about the PNG spec, they just don't compress as nicely as a non-interlaced image. May want to look into adding a pre-processing step though ImageMagick to convert the images to non-interlaced, or replace PNGCrush with OptiPNG. [1] --Org 01:18, 18 November 2011 (PST)

You have made an excellent point; ended up going for pngout instead though. WindBOT will slave away at all PNG images on the wiki over the next few months — Wind 13:54, 18 November 2011 (PST)

Poor bot, you are a harsh task-master :D --Org 14:27, 18 November 2011 (PST)

It likes it (that's 13% improvement over the already-pngcrush'd image, not over the original) — Wind 14:28, 18 November 2011 (PST)

Yeah and that wasn't even one of the interlaced ones. I wonder how well it'd do with those. --Org 14:35, 18 November 2011 (PST)

Those last few weapons for the Weapon Demonstration Project

Hey WindPower, later on this week, I'll be getting around to finishing a few of the Demonstration for some weapons that either don't, or need a new demonstration. Can weapons being tested out from the store be used?

2560x1600at120hz 17:44, 21 November 2011 (PST)2560x1600at120hz

If the backpack thingy doesn't say anything special in the tooltip, yes — Wind 17:49, 21 November 2011 (PST)

I am not begging but what do I still need for a wikicap nomination?

I am not begging but what do I still need for a wikicap nomination?--Bigbangbilly 19:02, 4 December 2011 (PST)

For a nomination, you don't need anything~ You just have to have the support of someone else (any other wiki member) who will then nominate you.

Word of advice, though: Your edit count is quite low right now compared to what most people expect. This doesn't stop you from being nominated in any way, but people who will review and vote on your nomination will certainly expect more than disambiguation/redirect pages. If you're looking for things to do, you can join IRC and ask, or view the tasks list. — Wind 00:53, 5 December 2011 (PST)

Something odd I found in Medicating Melody

Mr. Power; while I was randomly poking around I found this in the Medicating Melody article, line one:

{{Item in<!-- Go away WindBOT -->fobox

Any idea what that's about? --Org 01:19, 7 December 2011 (PST)

Nope — Wind 12:19, 7 December 2011 (PST)

I've been looking at that too. I think it was probably one of WindBOT's {{Item infobox}} or general filters doing something funny and the person that put that comment in either (a) didn't want to wait for the filter to be updated; or (b) didn't even ask. I'm willing to bet whatever was weird is now irrelevant or fixed. Easy way to find out is to remove the comment from the English article and watch the page for any WindBOT edits over the next few hours. I've been meaning to get around to it myself so if you don't want to, I will. (This is why the wiki needs a Subversion-style "blame" function.) --Fashnek 21:05, 8 December 2011 (PST)

The progress

Hi, Wind, this is ~www~. I think you might have known the issue about NEtodie from Seb.
Because the problems caused by NEtodie are serious and troublesome, I assumed that you and other admins had discussed about him.However, I hardly know what is your decision to deal with him right now, and due to the different time zone, I seldom see you online on my Steam friendlist, thus I cannot know what's your last decision. if it's possible, can you write down anything about how to deal with NEtodie in my talkpage? Please forgive my inpetuous act about this thing. I really want to know what NEtodie will face due to his trouble left in the zh-hant wiki pages. Frankly speaking, this must be ended so that I can start cleaning the pages with no worries. Thank you very much and waiting for your reply : )
18:14, 7 December 2011 (PST)

I am in favor of removing NEtodie's wiki cap. The matter has been discussed as well and the consensus is the removal of the cap as well, although I wasn't there at the time and so they didn't know my opinion. Anyway, NEtodie has already been told on Steam to stop using Google Translate, so all the cleanup can be done right now without worrying about extra Google translation. — Wind 18:47, 7 December 2011 (PST)

OK, roger. So it means that you will delete his Cap within a few days? Anyway, thanks for your notifying. And yeah, I won't ask you to post reply on my talk page again, sorry for forgetting that point :p 00:16, 8 December 2011 (PST)

The actual deletion part is up to Valve; whether they do it or not is not under my control >: — Wind 12:05, 8 December 2011 (PST)

 :o Oh my, so did Valve know that there's a Cap need to be deleted? If Valve knows that but just ignore the request, the Cap will never disappear? OK, I hope they want to delete the Cap, too. Anyway, zh-hant pages fixing works is my first priority. Got to finish it as soon as possible. 19:05, 8 December 2011 (PST)

I just want to confirm this with _seb when I see him next, then it should be straightforward to ask Valve. -- Pilk ^(talk) 19:11, 8 December 2011 (PST)

I need WindBOT's help D:

Would it be possible to make WindBOT go through the entire Wiki, looking for "File:<Class>_badge_<RED/BLU>.png", and replacing any instances of it, with "File:<Class>_emblem_<RED/BLU>.png"? For example: Find "File:Scout_badge_RED.png", replace "File:Scout_emblem_RED.png", or find "File:Medic_badge_BLU.png", replace "File:Medic_emblem_BLU.png". I'm working on all the beta/unused badges, as well as fixing/attempting to fix some Wanted Files thing, but the sheer amount of usage of all the "badge" images is too much for me (Medic_badge_RED is used on around 150 pages) 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 04:22, 9 December 2011 (PST)

All of that can just be solved by doing a file redirect, no need for bot intervention or manual replacing work — Wind 19:20, 9 December 2011 (PST)

Yus, I went through and created the redirects earlier (Sven helped!). Disregard this message, as I may go through and change the links over manually from time to time until I've converted each and every one. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 19:26, 9 December 2011 (PST)

Oh, and by the by, do I have a Wiki Cap Nomination review log yet, or has the review-al process for me not taken place yet? 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 19:28, 9 December 2011 (PST)

It has not taken place, since you're still on the list. That doesn't mean you don't have a log though, it's just empty. The password for it doesn't change, however, so there is not a wrong time to ask for it — Wind 19:47, 9 December 2011 (PST)

Well once I get home from work (calls are slow right now), I'll send you an email through the Wiki to get the log password so I can check once a log for me has been created. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 19:55, 9 December 2011 (PST)

Oh no, that Robot is a Ghost!

Hey WindPower, I'm doin' one of those Patrols of WindBOT's Backpack Checklists, and I was adding someone's Dueling Badge. After messing around a bit, I cranked out a Gold Dueling Badge with Numerical Input, but it states the Badge is Level 490 instead of having 490 Wins, so it kinda looks, y'know, loopy. Perhaps you could change that slightly in the Item Checklist criteria so it reads either "Level: 50" or "Wins: 490" or something? [UGS 2nd]Lancer @nti-tank Rocket 17:06, 16th December, 2011 (GMT)

Well now it says "Wins: x" — Wind 13:27, 16 December 2011 (PST)

That snuffed ya fire, ya filthy arsonist!

Are you planning to drop a Snowstorm on the Wiki? I just spotted you unprotecting a Page that seems to resemble Code for a Snowstorm [UGS 2nd]Lancer @nti-tank Rocket 17:19, 17 December 2011 (PST)

Hi there, that page he unblocked was a javascript page for my userpage. It's just a neat little script I wanted to put on my page and it's not going wiki-wide (for various reasons). No need to put your tinfoil cap on, the javascript is just for my personal use :) MogDog66 17:23, 17 December 2011 (PST)

TL;DR: MOGDOG IS SELFISH AND IS KEEPING ALL THE SNOW FOR HIMSELF :( -Mr. Magoolachub 17:25, 17 December 2011 (PST)

All your snow are belong to me! MogDog66 17:33, 17 December 2011 (PST)

Don't make me melt the snow! If I can't have it, NO-ONE CAN! And I'll put my Tinfoil Hat on if I wish, sir! [UGS 2nd]Lancer @nti-tank Rocket 17:48, 17 December 2011 (PST)

It doesn't seem to lag my FireFox any. I'd love to see the snow go Wiki-wide, if not, I'd love it on my userpage :3 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 04:57, 19 December 2011 (PST)

Unusual Festive Bat

Wind, can you step in and make a judgement call / resolve the edit fight going on with the Festive bat's uncrate status? --Org 00:15, 22 December 2011 (PST)

SS2R says there's a limited pool of 150 such bats. Not sure about the source. At any rate, that information is not very valuable anyway, so it's probably best to just not include it on the article — Wind 00:33, 22 December 2011 (PST)

I think he meant Unique....right? There really can't be Unusual Festive Bats....can there? 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 00:46, 22 December 2011 (PST)

No, the debate is between Strange and Unique, not Unusual — Wind 00:51, 22 December 2011 (PST)

Availability or Availibility?

Quick query for you, Wind. I've noticed that on a small few articles here on the Wiki, the first example of which I found on the Noise Maker article, the word "Availibility" is used. I know the correct spelling is "Availability", and this search I did on TheFreeDictionary.com turns up no results for Availibility. However, upon Googling "Availibility", a few results show up, showing me that "Availability" is used, though apparently incorrect. Before I go and change the words over, I just wanted to get your input on this. Now, because I'm from Canada, the spelling of availability may be different in America/the UK, but I just don't know if that's the case. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 20:18, 23 December 2011 (PST)

There is no such word as 'availibility'. The correct spelling is 'availability' in any variant / dialect seb26 20:20, 23 December 2011 (PST)

Alrighty then. This is the search I did, by the way, and it seems the usage is quite low, so this should be relatively easy job. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 20:21, 23 December 2011 (PST)

 Yes Done! I even managed to translate a thing or two into Japanese, despite not knowing any Japanese, and even more impressively, despite this computer I'm on here at my place of work only using IE7, and having every Japanese character look like a box! 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 20:45, 23 December 2011 (PST)

About Your script pack

Hi wind, just passing by reporting a bug.

When I set "quickbuild_shift" preference, keyboard numbers don't select my weapons. However, Shift numbers select the quickbuilding, as it should do.

I checked all alias regarding shift modes, binds and the quickbuild script, nothing seems to be wrong. But who knows, I'm not an expert.

Turns out I made a temporary fix myself, changing in "quickbuild_shift.cfg" the lines "engineer_w1" and subsequent to "slot1" and you-know-the-rest. Not a problem so far.

Thanks for your effort on this script and all your work at the wiki.

Also a suggestion: Put Demoman rapid fire on preferences next release, please! I put for myself already but lazy people would be glad.

IceCreamGuy 21:19, 13 January 2012 (PST)

Moved to User talk:WindPower/Wind's config#About Your script pack — Wind 18:20, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Item checklist template question

So I'm working on a revamping of the Item checklist template. It's nothing major, but I don't want to talk about it until I've made a version in my sandbox which will be used in a poll on the discussion board. My question involves WindBOT. If I was to split things into sections and such (I'm not going to touch the class tabs part of the template, by the way), would WindBOT encounter any problems with updating people's checklists? 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 17:42, 17 January 2012 (PST)

What it needs is:

• The template has to have "item checklist" in its name
• Has to take arguments for all weapons by using the english weapon name as key, same as {{Item checklist}} does now
• Those arguments have to be present in the template's wiki code (or at least {{{weapon-name has to be); it does a set intersection of those parameters and of the schema weapons to know which parameters to pass

The actual internal structure of the item checklist or whether it uses subtemplates doesn't matter as long as it fits the above. (btw, condition #1 allows you to test/use your customized item checklist by naming it "User:404 User Not Found/Item checklist" or something) — Wind 18:17, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Alrighty. Well basically what I want to do is restructure the way that the items are listed. I'm thinking a basic "Primary Weapons"/"Secondary Weapons"/"Melee Weapons"/"Hats"/"Miscellaneous Items" header setup for all 9 class tabs, with each header linking to the appropriate page (i.e. "Hats" links to Hats, etc). All the items would retain their chronological positions, obviously.

As for the All Class tab, I want to get the 4 tournament medals under their own header (i.e. "Tournament Medals". I've wanted to move them into their own area for awhile now, and with this redesign, it makes the idea a possibility). I'm going to leave out the Primary/Secondary header, but add in a "Melee Weapons" header for the Saxxy/Conscientious Objector, then separate the rest into "Hats"/"Miscellaneous Items".

Now obviously as I said above, I'm going to sandbox this, then make a discussion for it to get community opinions on the redesign, instead of just throwing the redesign up and hoping people like it. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 18:27, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Oh, and the other thing I've been endlessly trying to figure out, is how to make the checklist box properly resize itself. I've noticed that if you switch to a tab with a lot of items, then over to a tab with fewer items, this huge area of whitespace appears at the bottom, possibly due to bad resizing/"height" settings in the CSS somewhere. It's not an urgent priority of any sort, but it's something I've been trying to fix, via using the Firebug extension in FireFox to try to correct. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 18:30, 17 January 2012 (PST)

It is intended behaviour of {{Tabs}}, so no that ain't possible right now >: — Wind 18:32, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Awww, crap-in-a-hat. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 18:52, 17 January 2012 (PST)

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I just noticed this little bit of code: '''{{#if:{{{noweapons|}}}'''. Let's put that to the side for a minute. The code that I'm using to create a header is as follows:

<table align="center" width="100%">

<tr>

<td style="background-color: #F9D483 ;" width="100%">'''Primary Weapons'''</td>

</tr>

</table>

Now here's where my question lies. If I was to put the above code after the "noweapons" if thingy, I assume the header would not show up if the player had none of the items in that section, correct? This leads me into another question. What does the "noweapons" thing do? Is it even necessary?

And what about the "| none = &nbsp" thing that appears in things like the tournament medals? Is that even necessary? What template/part of a template controls the fact that when "none" is used on any item, it completely removes the image/text for that item and leaves a chunk of whitespace where the item would be? I was thinking of removing that "none" code, or just adding something in so that it doesn't create whitespace when a person uses "none". But I'm not sure what controls it/if there's a way to remove the "none" function completely so that if "none" is used, it shows the standard image gray "x". 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 19:14, 17 January 2012 (PST)

noweapons is for people who don't want weapons to show up in the item checklist, if they just want to show their hats and misc items. As for that "none" thing, I don't remember where that came from or why it is there. The template is a result of multiple people editing it over the span of several months. Just tinker around and see — Wind 19:28, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Can't believe I forgot about what noweapons did. I'll leave the noweapons/nohats thing in there, and I'll probably have to change "noweapons"/"nohats" to "noprimary"/"nosecondary"/"nomelee"/"nohats"/"nomisc"/"nomedals" for my sandbox test. As for the "none" thing, it seems that by default, on all weapons/hats, using "none" results in the gray "x" showing up. But for the ID Badges and such, using "none" causes whitespace. So that's an easy fix. Finally, is the method of creating a header that I'm using the best method? I mean, it creates a nice skinny horizontal line with the text in the center, and it looks good...but it's quite a bit of code just for a header. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 19:36, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Templatize it~ — Wind 19:38, 17 January 2012 (PST)

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