They wanted people to use their replacement application. It has a subscription if I remember correctly. -_-

They should have left this up for sale dirt cheap or either given it away for free. That would have been more respectable of them. I'm looking in to the other version, but I think I would have rather had this version being honest mates.

Originally posted by KOOLLAYDTAC:

but I think I would have rather had this version being honest mates.

And that is the reason it is gone. :P

This was a paid and done, the replacement is a subscription model, to ensure more income.

Originally posted by DeltaBladeX:

And that is the reason it is gone. :P

This was a paid and done, the replacement is a subscription model, to ensure more income.

Not from my wallet mate. lol

Edit: I'll also add this. It's because of the way they did everyone dirty is the very reason that every time I consider looking at Animaze I always end up talking myself out of it.

Had they left this up for sale dirt cheap or either given it away for free then I would have gladly been more inclined and very highly motivated to give them cash and supported the updated version.

I generally don't support developers who pull titles like this. Especially under these types of circumstances. Even more so when the options in the new version are no better then the options in the old version.

Oh, I agree. Just stating that this was removed for a reason. They don't want to compete with their old product, not when the profit isn't continuous. Really sucks when the replacement is worse, like when the original GTA games were removed to have the 'Remasters' replace them.

Ya I figured mate. I was just throwing my thoughts out there was all. Just when I think about it I keep thinking to myself that while for me it might be a small irritation not to be able to buy this software any more, but I mostly feel bad for everyone else who did buy it who is no longer getting support. If I recall the prices for some of the license upgrades wasn't cheap.

With Animaze I did notice some license DLC's that claim to have the subscription perks for the time period, but I am unclear on if that also removes the time limit for it. You can definitely tell though just by looking at the forums between the two which one had more popularity. Another thing I noticed that people don't like is you have to have internet for Animaze where as FaceRig you do not as far as I understand it.

Unfortunately I don't see any other programs out here that do 3d models like either of these programs. Most everything is anime cartoons basically which is not really my jam. lol I even looked for an open source free alternative and was surprised no one had even bothered doing one. I thought it would have been rather popular. Usually there is an open source alternative for almost everything these days. lol

Being honest as much money as they made I am surprised they didn't have a much more wider variety in model choices then what they have after looking over the free version of Animaze. Either way I am definitely on the fence post with it when I think about how everything all went down. I think you all deserved a lot better then this mate.

Cuz the developer is a stupid ♥♥♥♥.

Just plain greed is all. im glad i got this when i did. i wont use the other program due to the sub model they have in place.

Originally posted by KOOLLAYDTAC:

Edit: I'll also add this. It's because of the way they did everyone dirty is the very reason that every time I consider looking at Animaze I always end up talking myself out of it.

This.
Wanted to use this for kicks and giggles, but I will not give them any money after the bait and ye olde switcheroo.

At this point I consider just getting a model and a vtuber app instead, lol. Don't think I'll do that just for some pranks, though.

Does anyone want to complete the cards?

What makes this worse is the fact they left the dlcs for download, even though the app is gone, like is that even legal? They are basically using the dlcs for the original facerig as bait to get people to use animaze which has a subscription, so it shouldn't be.

They left the free DLCs only, paid ones were removed from the store.

And why would it be illegal to leave them up? They are there so people who forgot to claim them previously can still grab them.

I can't believe they removed it. Hell with it

Originally posted by Blackpot:

I can't believe they removed it. Hell with it

Because they wanna force you to sub to there other program which is crap. Its a slap in the face to people who bought facerig(me included)

Hello!

So much poison for poor Fluffo....
Here is the history, without rumors and speculations:


1. Facerig was not taken away from anyone who bought it its long seven-year availability life (2014 to 2021) nor was it transformed in a sub-mode.
It was left exactly as it was for all its legitimate users to enjoy it as it was in perpetuity, specifically because we didn't want to force any changes to it.
Let's also not beat around the bush: anyone who wanted it past 2021 (and sometimes even before) got the pirated copies anyway, as we never put difficult DRM on it.

2. Animaze has both a non-sub (the most recent being the 2024 DLC as a perpetual use license on Steam) and a sub-mode (on Steam and off Steam), transitioning from FaceRig to any of Animaze licenses is not automatic nor forced for any exiting Facerig user.



The history is that Fluffo was rather abandoned by its community back in 2017 long before the sunset of Facerig in 2020, and long before the momentary spike in spend due to Covid locking everyone in their house.

Unfortunately, rampant piracy on Facerig back in 2017 meant we didn't have enough resources to hire Facerig's old engine team within our ranks when their parent gaming company decided to switch to Unreal, and stop the development their internal Chameleon engine and model toolset (what FaceRig was built on).

Facerig engine tech, the Chameleon game engine, froze up in 2017 and was un-updatable in 2020 and onwards, making it unethical to sell more licenses for it, as something as benign as a Windows update might break something and we wouldn't have been able to fix it, because of the frozen engine libraries. Also, basic modern functionalities like blend shapes were unavailable on that engine. That path to the future would have been open there if and only if we had found a way to keep that engine team together and alive, which did not happen.

Since it can't be realistically updated anymore and does not have a reliable future, it is irresponsible to sell new licenses for it. Since it also does not have a valid license agreement for it is face tracker library anymore (the ULSee face tracking library), selling new copies or any paid DLC for (derivative products) for FaceRig is also impossible from a legal standpoint.


It is regrettable but a future for Facerig cannot be revived without a time machine traveling back to 2017 and convincing the audience to spend something on a legitimate copy of Facerig.

We've worked super hard from 2018 to 2020 and beyond to build a new engine and models, so Fluffo has another chance at life in Animaze. This was done with external funding: https://tracxn.com/d/companies/facerig/__PTk0IRgZRMzLJaURr4J_OSAbIE-nWvy-BxBSJBdZKFk/funding-and-investors


Up to you if you want to enjoy this new chance at life for Fluffo and help us build up Animaze, or repeat the history of 2017 and try to kill Fluffo once again.
We are currently a team of three developers trying to be sustainable. We don't have a corporate engine built by thousands of people behind powering our app like Unity, or a marketing team.

To use a gardening parallel, If you have a plant you like, you need to water it while it is alive. Once it has died, no amount of water can bring it back. But you can choose to take better care of a new plant.


We have built both FaceRig and Animaze, they are both our babies and we love them dearly, more than any single customer could.
But, nostalgia-tinted glasses aside, looking at things with a pragmatic eye, a properly configured Animaze crushes FaceRig in the ways that matter most for real-time streamers.
Here is a comparison where Animaze is deliberately being held back by not using Animaze exclusive features like iOS tracking or not using Animaze new avatars, like Noah the lion cub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ4wijtsCjM

Still comes out miles ahead in terms of how the avatar does not look like a junkie trying to stab you in an alley.
iOS tracking paired with an avatar with blendshapes (supported for Animaze, never supported by the Facerig engine) is ten times better than what FaceRig was capable of,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h81APl_hyuI



It is great that Facerig still has fans even after 10 years. We are sometimes nostalgic about it too. Just too bad that this support appears now, in the form of putting down Fluffo's remaining chance at a future with acid remarks and speculation, instead of back in 2017 in the form of buying it outside of humble bundle for pennies, when its initial engine team might have still been saved, and we wouldn't have had to re-build a render and animation engine from the ground up, just to give Fluffo another chance at a future, now in Animaze.



Cheers!