User talk:6-Frisk

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Welcome to Inkipedia, 6-Frisk!

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Moving discussions

Please don't move discussions off another users talk page. It is perfectly acceptable to continue a discussion on a different talk page than where it started. Please do not do this in the future. Thanks! EmiTalk 20:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay, understood! On another wiki where I'm active, the directive is to keep a conversation on the same page, so I applied it to here as well without realizing it wasn't in Inkipedia's policy. I'll remember next time!

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  20:21, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Also, there is no need to put your sig on a separate line. You can just type ~~~~ right after your comment. Thanks! EmiTalk 20:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, is it not allowed to put the signature on a new line? Sorry if that's the case. I just think it looks better when it's not cut in two by a line break, and it's less likely to be cut if it's on a new line. If that's not allowed, my apologies and I won't do it again.

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  21:04, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

It's not that putting the signature on a new line isn't allowed, it's just not conventional. EmiTalk 21:07, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

wow

Hello from the fanbase! I think that you are really cool and I actually share some of your interests.

the octoling girl 18:49, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, thank you :)

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  11:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for displaying Template:TableturfSpaces in diamonds instead of squares

They look SO much better, and I can't remember the last time that seeing something on Inkipedia spread a grin across my face! Lapsem (talk) 20:02, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

daghjdgazh thank you, I'm glad you like it!! Someone on the Discord pointed out they looked weird, and it turns out they were inheriting stuff from Timeless' CSS — which is also why there was that whitespace you couldn't get rid of btw, it was Vector's CSS giving margins to every <p> tag (aka, like, all the plain text on the wiki). Because we didn't know that yet, they asked if we could use background images, which I took as a challenge to figure it out in CSS anyway... And here we are now haha

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  20:14, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

I never could figure out CSS, so it's a good thing that you did.

Something else that merits pointing out is that my version looked like crap on mobile, which is another big plus towards your redesign. Lapsem (talk) 23:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Copying something?

Is it alright if I copy your Agent 8 user tag? Also, it's kinda nice to see another ace enby around here. :) ArivakiVA 18:45, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh absolutely, go ahead! Two other users already did it, haha x) also, ayyy >:D

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  19:06, 10 November 2022 (UTC) 

Alright thank you! (btw, ayyyyyy to you too >:)) ArivakiVA 19:08, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Image source

Hi, could you check out the source of this image File:Splatoon 3 full cover inside.png and update it if possible? (Do you keep the original hd file?) Tnx It's moon [Talk!] 01:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

The same for this File:Splatoon 3 full cover outside FR.png, please do not use discord for sources as it's not a permanent image hosting service and it deletes the images after a while. It's moon [Talk!] 01:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Yeah okay I know about Discord, these are old, also no it doesn't delete them they just killed hotlinking (it requires a token that changes every day or so). And the source is I scanned them myself lmao

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  14:59, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Kk! If you scanned them yourself you can leave the source as "self" It's moon [Talk!] 15:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

I know, that's why the source is already set to that

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  15:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Template:TemplateStyles_usage

Hello. Was it you that came up with the Template:TemplateStyles usage template? I noticed a similar template existing in Wikipedia, but this version in Inkipedia looks API incompatible with Wikipedia one. I don't know what to do. Explorer09 (talk) 02:13, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Update. I've converted Template:TemplateStyles usage to become an API wrapper to Template:Uses TemplateStyles. The latter template has syntax compatible with Wikipedia and other wikis' use of this template. Explorer09 (talk) 05:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Ah, well, hi there, I was sleeping lmao. I had no idea that kind of template existed on Wikipedia already, it just started out as a notice I made for my sandbox before realizing it could be useful elsewhere as well! Idk what you mean by "API incompatible", the version you made looks like any regular template to me, just written differently...? If you're gonna change it to behave more like Wikipedia's version, I don't really see the point in making two, could just update the existing template to work that way. I could do that later, actually (and we could even rename it to "Uses TemplateStyles" if you want).
 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  07:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

The template in Wikipedia uses all unnamed parameters (1 to 10) for style sheet names, and doesn't use the named pagename parameter. Also, the (unnamed) parameter 1 in Template:TemplateStyles usage was used for a different purpose. Those are the "API incompatibilities" I was referring to. Explorer09 (talk) 07:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I can see why you would use that term, but it kinda made it sound either like you wanted to use the Wikipedia module directly somehow, or like simply updating the current template to add in functionalities like Wikipedia's was completely impossible for some reason. In any case, I have now enhanced the original to make it work more like your version and updated all relevant pages! Though considering Template:Sound is the only instance on the wiki right now of using more than one stylesheet, and it only uses 3 of them, I reduced the number of unnamed parameters to 5 instead of 10.
 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  14:13, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I was too late to reply for this...

The reasons I reworked the template to make it compatible with Wikipedia's is that, oftentimes we would copy a template code from one wiki to another, and it's surely a bad idea to have two ways to do the same thing. Search "Template:Uses TemplateStyles" in a search engine and you will see a lot of wikis have it. And "Template:TemplateStyles usage" is Inkipedia only. I see no new functionality offered in your version of the template, and thus I would propose to just stick with "Template:Uses TemplateStyles" that many wikis have been using (and their calling syntaxes very similar to Wikipedia's, ensuring interoperability). Explorer09 (talk) 19:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

P.S. I have left a comment in Template talk:Uses TemplateStyles. --Explorer09 (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, probably a good idea to go to the template talk page directly. I'd just like to note that you mention being "too late to reply", when you also contacted me over this at a time I wasn't available — and then proceeded with the somewhat-wide scale changes before I could reply. Not that edit warring before the other can react is the way to go about this at all; but it is likely any back-and-forth edits could have been avoided from the start.

About using other wikis' templates directly, I don't how common that actually is, as I feel I personally haven't done it much? I mostly remember only taking inspiration from external wikicode when applicable. Though, while I can definitely see your point about cross-wiki consistency, I don't think it should always be the goal — we don't have to do something in a specific way just because another wiki (no matter how huge) does it that way, and in fact I don't think it is a very good idea to assume all wikis with similar templates should have them working the exact same way. There is of course always the case where you find that said wiki is doing it better, and decide you want to adapt your own approach; that's why I adapted the original template to allow multiple sheets like yours, as that was definitely a point of improvement. I also put the word overriding back in for flexibility's sake (very minor, but it technically is a difference).

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  20:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:Mission quote

Hello. I'm not sure if you are the right person to ask. I have two questions regarding Template:Mission quote. (1.) Is there any style difference between S2 dialogue box and OC dialogue box? Also the same question between S3 and RotM. (2.) I see the "notes (4th)" parameter in the template but it's rarely used. Is there any real use of that parameter in (Inkipedia) wiki pages?

Just to give a note that I was trying to refactor the quote syntaxes, to make useful for generic character quotes. See User:Explorer09/Character dialogue (and the talk page) for the drafts. So I wish to hear some advice from the original template makers. Explorer09 (talk) 06:03, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Yeah, most of that template is my own work — and considering the source code is apparently so complex even the syntax highlighting gets confused, I probably am the best person to ask about it, lol.

1. There isn't; OC and RotM were originally lumped under S2 and S3 respectively, but when all the story mode icons got renamed with their respective mode's prefix, it was easier to simply "duplicate" the CSS classes than adding a bunch more switches all over, since the game parameter is used as-is to fetch the icon and name all the classes.
2. It was put there just in case someone would need to insert a ref tag, but that specific use case is actually so rare that people thought it was meant to replace putting a header above the quote (e.g if it's only triggered by something specific), so I tried changing the wording a bit — but ref tags are so rarely needed over headers/pseudo-headers/just a sentence above the quote that I could probably just axe it, yeah.

Although, since you said you're looking for advice... personally, I don't see any real need for trying to merge together multiple extremely different (both visually and code-wise) templates like this, especially when the reason is just "both of these templates are for dialogue"? They were made separately because they cover different kinds of dialogue, which need different kinds of coverage (the Stage quotes being grouped in tables for simplicity and having their own double-sided interface in-game, the story mode dialogue having one icon per character instead of expressions). Trying to make templates like that fit together sounds to me like it would not only be incredibly tedious, but would also probably result in making already complex code even harder to understand...
 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  14:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• The problem I saw with the CSS classes of that template is that there are selectors with same specificity and are dependent on the order. The order dependency makes things difficult to tweak at least for me. Although I can try fix that first in Template:Mission quote/style.css.
• The reason I mention the ref tag issue is because in Template:News dialogue, I see some "translation notes" of the dialogues that are placed just below the dialogue translation (in its own table row). The use cases highly overlap - and I would prefer the "news dialogue" way of placing the notes to just below the translation. But the argument formats are not directly compatible.
• I would argue that news dialogues need not be double-sided in presentation. In Splatoon 3 players can see news dialogues aside (the "sea cucumber phone") so they become one character line at a time. It's one of the motivations I choose to redesign the template.
• Another motivation is to improve accessibility of the templates - so that all dialogue lines quoted in Inkipedia may get the same HTML structure and can potentially benefit screen readers.

Explorer09 (talk) 22:18, 13 December 2024 (UTC)