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Sort skins by their ID and default position, not by their localised name
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Given that some skins might be untranslatable (such as MinervaNeue), it makes more sense to sort them by the following structure:

  • default skin
  • other ones (by their skin ID)

Because currently, for example, in the Russian Wikipedia because of the preference of Latin sorting to Cyrillic MinervaNeue gets to be a first option, after it are MonoBook and Timeless, and only then Vector (the default skin). I think more sense would be in a more manual sorting that would set the default skin first and then all the options regardless of their translated name.

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I definitely agree that the default skin should be first.

Change 396083 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; owner: Bartosz Dziewoński):
[mediawiki/core@master] Preferences: Sort list of skins by internal name

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/396083

Change 396084 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; owner: Bartosz Dziewoński):
[mediawiki/core@master] Preferences: Display the default skin first in the list

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/396084

Change 396083 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Preferences: Sort list of skins by internal name

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/396083

Change 396084 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Preferences: Display the default skin first in the list

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/396084

I understand placing default skin first, but I don't understand what sense does it make to sort the rest by internal name, as opposed to regular sort order or sort by popularity.

matmarex removed a project: Patch-For-Review.

I understand placing default skin first, but I don't understand what sense does it make to sort the rest by internal name, as opposed to regular sort order or sort by popularity.

@stjn says (in task description) it was awkward in Russian. The options looked like this before the changes:

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While I can see value for the users in default as first, I don't think either that ordering by ID is of any value than for at maximum developers. It . Popularity (users) could be a good indicator if hint about it is given.

Or just asking a translator to translate all the skin names?