Reconsider how users can be contacted (email, talk page, notifications) on wikis where they have never edited but have logged-in.
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	• TBolliger
	Jul 6 2017, 10:07 PM

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Currently, when users create a Wikimedia account they can receive notifications from any project of any language if someone writes on their talk page, via Echo notification for @mentions, and/or via Special:EmailUser — for wikis where they have visited while logged-in.

It's not feasible for a user to go to each project and set their preferences, and most users assumedly don't understand that they can be emailed at all, let alone from different communities. Abusive users can easily evade single project blocks to spam another user.

The default should probably be set to allow communication on wikis where a user has 1 edits but disallow communication if the user has 0 edits. We should also consider an education feature for users to understand how to control these preferences.

See also: T164542: Epic: ⚡️ General user mute/block feature for features that allow users to control who can communicate with them on wikis where they have logged-in and edited.

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Status	Assigned	Task
Open	None	T169934 Reconsider how users can be contacted (email, talk page, notifications) on wikis where they have never edited but have logged-in.
Resolved	dbarratt	T178842 If a user has never triggered a logged action on a wiki, they should not be able receive emails by non-privileged users from there
Resolved	• SPoore	T177985 Make decision about Email Group Prohibit
Open	None	T179414 Create API option to see if user has an email address associated with their account
Declined	None	T184294 Global renamers should be able to email any emailconfirmed user on any wiki
Declined	None	T184318 Allow direct emails on home wikis regardless of log entries
Resolved	dmaza	T184470 Rollback and clean up code from T178842

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• TBolliger created this task.Jul 6 2017, 10:07 PM

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• TBolliger mentioned this in T104099: Allow users to be blocked from using Special:EmailUser only.Jul 6 2017, 10:09 PM

I don't think this is useful. User may just make a random edit to enable the email function then.

BTW: In fact in my opinion lack of communication channel after the user is blocked is a more important issue. I even think we should set up some method to appeal even if both the user's email and talk page access are revoked, such as something like a global UTRS. (See here ) Currently the user can email the administrator in another project but we don't advertize it.

jrbs subscribed.Jul 7 2017, 5:58 PM

• TBolliger mentioned this in T171624: Investigate making Mute cross-wiki.Aug 22 2017, 6:58 PM

• TBolliger renamed this task from Reconsider how users can be contacted (email, talk page, notifications) on wikis where they have never edited to Reconsider how users can be contacted (email, talk page, notifications) on wikis where they have never edited but have logged-in..Aug 23 2017, 6:37 PM

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• TBolliger updated the task description. (Show Details)Oct 23 2017, 9:12 PM

• TBolliger created subtask T178842: If a user has never triggered a logged action on a wiki, they should not be able receive emails by non-privileged users from there.Oct 23 2017, 9:15 PM

Thryduulf subscribed.Nov 17 2017, 11:58 PM

dbarratt closed subtask T178842: If a user has never triggered a logged action on a wiki, they should not be able receive emails by non-privileged users from there as Resolved.Dec 10 2017, 10:06 PM

• TBolliger moved this task from Untriaged to Product/Tech backlog on the Anti-Harassment board.Feb 20 2018, 5:49 PM

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Niharika added a project: AHT-Roadmap.Apr 15 2021, 1:51 PM

Perhaps there could be some way in your global preferences to control which wikis you want to accept emails from?

Niharika removed a project: AHT-Roadmap.Apr 29 2021, 5:31 PM

TAdeleye_WMF edited projects, added Trust and Safety Product Team; removed Anti-Harassment.May 14 2024, 4:21 PM

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