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  • More than 66% of the cross-wiki placing and addition of this link has been performed by one editor, and the link has been added to 3 or more wikimedia sites.
  • The user is adding more than 2 domains to more than 2 wikis, but they all reside on the same server.
  • The links are exclusively added by IPs to more than 2 wikis.
  • Several IPs are adding the link to more than 2 wikis, but the IPs are in a close (/24) range.
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casarealdeportugal.org

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User:84.90.92.195(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
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User:84.90.92.195(IP tools: Google | WHOIS | domaintools | RBL | tools)
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Log entry for the Spam blacklist: 

\bcasarealdeportugal\.org\b            # ADMINNAME # {{sbl-diff|#}}; see [[User:COIBot/XWiki/casarealdeportugal.org]]
Discussion
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Request Status - Closed

See COIBot report for more details. --COIBot 19:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Should be evaluated by someone Spanish if possible - mix of good & bad links  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
This link belong to the Royal House of Portugal. I'm not sure at all what to do with this link cause, I can find some valuable information such as history but some quotes makes me think that the link is being used with political purposes. I leave it open, I need to search some Portuguese native speaker to confirm my suspects. Note that Portugal is a republic not a monarchy. —Dferg (meta-w:es:) 15:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
This link is used to promote a political Portuguese party (the "Legitimist" monarchical party), and has been added to the blacklist of some Wikis. Some of the IPs that add this link are often involved with edition wars and have been blocked in some Wikis, too. The site is not impartial and it is systematically cited to corroborate some polemical affirmations. It would be much better to add it to the blacklist. Thanks. --Tonyjeff 16:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
IP blocks have also been used to combat this POV-pusher. With input from some others, I think blacklisting this may be the best option.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Just to complete, if one check the link of the site that belongs to the other Portuguese party (the "Miguelist" monarchical party), http://www.casarealportuguesa.org/, it may be verified that it is much less added in the Wiki sites, and it is not blocked in any project. --Tonyjeff 16:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
It seems that my suspicions get confirmed. —Dferg (meta-w:es:) 16:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Mike: Presently, in Portugal, there are two families descending from Kings. One is the "Braganza's" Family (please check: House of Braganza - www.casarealportuguesa.org, from the old House of Braganza, and other is the "Braganza-Wettin's" Family (please check: House of Braganza-Wettin - www.casarealdeportugal.org), from the last Reignant House in Portugal, the House of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. It is natural that their websites are included in their respective articles on Wikipedia, and I think that you should accept both. Remember also that Wikipedia sould be neutral in this type of discussions. Please replace the information and used it to show the difference between the pretenders. Thank you. 84.90.92.195 22:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: more comments here  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Note 2: and more here. 84.90.92.195 00:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


All of you should first read some books like:

  • Jean Pailler; Maria Pia: A Mulher que Queria Ser Rainha de Portugal. Lisbon: Bertrand, 2006. The standard biography of Princess Maria Pia of Braganza (currently only available in Portuguese) written by a man who also wrote the biography of King Carlos I.
  • Fernando Luso Soares; Maria Pia, duquesa de Bragança contra D. Duarte Pio, o senhor de Santar. Lisbon: Minerva, 1983.
  • Manuel de Bettencourt e Galvão; Ao Serviço d'El-Rei (Cadernos Políticos). Lisbon: Gama, 1949, pp. 123-129.
  • Francisco de Sousa Tavares; O caso de Maria Pia de Bragança (13/5/83) (in Escritos Políticos I). Porto: Mário Figuerinhas, 1996, pp. 246-251.

to understand better what's really happened in Portugal and why the facts revealed in 'casarealdeportugal.org' are not false. Thank you all. 84.90.92.195 00:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


The edition at WP:PT has been reverted, as a sample of the ideological concern of these users – the same user/IP reverted the bot editions in almost every site. In fact, it depicts much more the concern of one person than a group of people. The casarealdeportugal.org is not being used just to indicate a website for more informations, but to promote disinformation, used as reference to corroborate polemical affirmations in some articles.
Please, pay attention that we are just discussing the misusing of this site. The matter of the fact, the validity of the "legitimists" allegations, and their moral situation currently, would lead us to a longer discussion, which have already taken place in some Wikis (notably, EN, PT, SP and FR). --Tonyjeff 00:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
IMHO the case is clear. The link is being used as a way of x-wiki disinformation and with political purposes. See that the content of the site is not neutral at all. OTOH, the user's/IP's are reverting the link reversions saying that "rv against vandalism" when no vandalism are made, this is a blatant violation of WP:AGF and WP:Etiqquette. See this diff. In fact, the link are on some local blacklists and the IP's has been blocked on several wikis also. I suggest to add the site to this blacklist. —Dferg (meta-w:es:) 11:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
In addition, see the page history —Dferg (meta-w:es:) 11:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

If "casarealdeportugal.org" is considered spam (and I cannot understand why it happens if it is the official website of the Royal House of House Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha), why don't you consider also spam the webpage "casarealportuguesa.org"? It's the same type of webpage and with the same subject. 84.90.92.195 21:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Closed in favour of listing on Talk:Spam blacklist.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Comment: already blacklisted on fr.wikipedia. --A. B. (talk) 17:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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