[Foundation-l] Creation of Pontic Wikipedia

‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Tue Mar 10 20:39:17 UTC 2009


I'm not sure about the absolute neutrality. It may be an "informal"
name certainly, but the el.wp article is at the title "Proin
Giounkoslaviki Dimokratia tis Makedonias".

Mark

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2009/3/10 Crazy Lover <always_yours.forever at yahoo.com>:
> Exactly Marcus, Greeks, when refering FYROM, prefer the name Vardaria (no barbaria). It is neutral (not offensive) word.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute#Stalemate
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> The use of Macedonia is reserved for the Greek "nomo"
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_(Greece)
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> The use of the Macedonia for non greek territories is consider an usurpation.
>
> .m.l.
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> ________________________________
> From: Marcus Buck <me at marcusbuck.org>
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 6:53:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Creation of Pontic Wikipedia
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> Milos Rancic hett schreven:
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Zaharias Diakonikolaou
>> <zadiak1993 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Pontic wikipedia has launched! Everyone is welcome to participate in the
>>> project. Also, I would like to thank Brion Vibber because he responded to my
>>> mail and arranged the launch of the wikipedia.
>>>
>>
>> Why is the name of Republic of Macedonia on Pontic Wikipedia "Η
>> Δημοκρατίαν τη Βαρδάρονος" [1]  (Republic of Barbarians), not like on
>> Greek Wikipedia Η πρώην Γιουγκοσλαβική Δημοκρατία της Μακεδονίας [2]
>> (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia)? I see that this name is
>> supported by you [3].
>>
>> Such behavior is totally unacceptable by one admin of a Wikimedia
>> project and I am asking others to express their opinion about your
>> adminship at this project.
>>
>> [1] - http://pnt.wikipedia.org/wiki/ΠΓΔΜ
>> [2] - http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Πρώην_Γιουγκοσλαβική_Δημοκρατία_της_Μακεδονίας
>> [3] - http://pnt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ΠΓΔΜ&diff=3894&oldid=3889
>>
> My Greek is not very good (in other word: I don't speak a word), but to
> me it reads "Vardar" and not "Barbar". Vardar is a river in Macedonia.
> The name is not offensive in any way. Well, it's definitely a name that
> expresses discontent about the alleged "occupation" of the name
> "Macedonia", but it's in no way anything suitable to doubt anybody's
> admin status..
> If that's the common name for Macedonia in the Pontic community, the
> article should be under that name. If it's not, well, then find
> references supporting that and argue on the wiki. But dragging the issue
> on the "international stage" won't be helpful in any way.
>
> Marcus Buck
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