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Unsourced for years, but someone cared enough to attempt to draftify it, so a PROD nomination might be questionable.

I'm going to try to do a "bundled" AfD here in a moment, nominating different year in Croatian television. Wish me luck, and I'd appreciate your patience if I mess up. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:35, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Croatia. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:35, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've also nominated the following articles, for the same reason as stated in the original nomination:

1971 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1972 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1973 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1974 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1975 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1976 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1977 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1978 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1979 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1980 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1982 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1983 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1985 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1989 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1994 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2001 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2002 in Croatian television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Just a note that 1994 in Croatian television has been redirected to a merged page due to a discussion I was unaware of. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 21:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@I dream of horses, If me moving them to draft space is the only reason to not "PROD" (simplified deletion?), should I blank redirect the others to the merged pages as User: Hey man im josh suggested? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 21:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to decades – These have mostly already been merged into decades, because they are nearly empty, or completely empty, but the combined decades were enough for a stub. I moved them to draft space as I merged them, but User: Hey man im josh moved them back to main space because they were too old to draftify. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 21:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Industrial Metal Brain I was going to agree to withdraw my nomination if you did this, but then a power outage happened, and I then enjoyed a few hours of being off the computer. courtesy ping to Hey man im josh. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another reason to redirect instead of delete, even for the empty pages like 1994 in Croatian television, is that there's a template {{Years in TV by country}} that links to the years, for most of the other countries the individual years are enough for a page. Ireland is the only one with pages for the decades, but they're just lists of years, e.g. 1970s television in Ireland… actually 1970s in Irish television. Maybe it's worth checking other word orders for the other countries), but decade lists are probably not worth making for the others. Simplest option is to redirect the years few countries that are combined in decades. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 04:33, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And just to explain my hesitance to nominate these articles for a PROD deletion: PROD deletion is designed for abandoned articles, and these certainly weren't abandoned, as evidence by your draftification. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry, I misunderstood how draft space works. Josh explained on my talk page, before that I didn't know there are time limits on drafts. I thought moving them to draft space was the right thing to do with the scrappy stubs that are not enough for a page, for if somebody wanted to expand them years later. Redirects to the merged page seem like the right option for what I was trying to do? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 06:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Industrial Metal Brain Right, you seem to be redirecting, so I'm wondering if Hey man im josh will note my withdrawing of the nominations? I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 08:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based on Liz's reply, I think we're going to just let this one play out with the, hopefully, inevitable result of redirecting to decade articles. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, totally fine you didn't know, that happens. That's why I monitor draftifications, to help make people aware of it :) Hey man im josh (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I dream of horses, I have reverted the articles that were changed to Redirects which was improper after this AFD discussion was started. The editor can come here and argue for Redirection if that is the outcome they seek. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz Normally, I agree with your AfD decisions. I actually also agree with not redirecting a page nominated for AfD most of the time. With this specific decision, though, it appears like you're just doing procedures for procedures sake, and I have concerns that this is not in compliance with the fifth pillar. It just seems like there's a snowballs chance of Hell of any other outcome than "redirect" happening, which is why I'm offering to withdraw the nomination, something I'm normally allowed to do. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz That's what I did, above, I thought we came to the conclusion that this is what should be done? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 20:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I redirected one before the nominator responded – there were two discussions happening at the same time in different places, one here and one on my talk page, I was following the advice from my talk page – but I left the notice above the redirect and I think I waited before doing the rest of the list. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 21:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Industrial Metal Brain Liz sometimes takes a while to respond to messages, but they have popped up on my watchlist, so should reply to us shortly. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 01:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I dream of horses, I'm sorry, I don't see the urgency of closing this AFD early. If articles that are subject to an open AFD discussion are moved to draft space or turned into a redirect, those moves are always reverted. Most likely, participants will argue for a Redirect here and that's how the discussion will be closed. I don't believe in bureaucracy for bureaucracy's sake but I also don't understand closing an open AFD early when there might be interested editors out there who want to participate in this discussion. Is 7 days of discussion such a big ask? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz It isn't so much that 7 days is a big ask; it's more that I foresee any other outcome other than "redirect to the merged articles." I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to decades articles, which Industrial Metal Brain has been working at. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to each relevant decade article as suggested. I’m wondering about how these were created, but I’m going to assume good faith. Bearian (talk) 18:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bearian They were created almost 20 years ago by someone who has since been blocked. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:21, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@I dream of horses: I wouldn't call 2015 "almost 20 years ago". jlwoodwa (talk) 05:27, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jlwoodwa My bad. I could've sworn there was an article made in 2006. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 06:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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