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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 7, 2025.

Alternative jazz

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The phrase "alternative jazz" seems like it would be vague. It is especially moreso vague because the phrase "alternative jazz" does not appear at the target article. May likely be a search term though, as there is a Grammy Award titled "Grammy Award for Best Alternative Jazz Album". That page could explain what it is? Because jazz fusion does not do that. "Alternative" appears nowhere in the article. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haka sherpa sherpa

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No mention of "haka", nor any mention of "sherpa" at the target page. Much less any mention of "haka sherpa sherpa". Utopes (talk / cont) 23:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's Trey Parker and Matt Stone film, so it's a racist imitation of Arabic language spoken in the film. BarntToust 23:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cross Strait Three Regions

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Neither "three regions" nor "four regions" are mentioned at the target page. Currently a possibly confusing redirect to Greater China. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Parietes

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Not discussed at target. Since this is practically always used in its biological sense, I suggest doing a soft retarget to wikt:paries#English. Cremastra (uc) 23:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sunlight is the best disinfectant

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This is presumably a redirect based on a minor misremembering of the quote "sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." However, Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants currently redirects to the source of the quote, not a serious discussion of its ability as a disinfectant. I'd guess that most people who search "sunlight is the best disinfectant" are misremembering the original quote and want to find the source of the quote, so the redirect target should be changed. Based5290 :3 (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Other People's Money and How the Bankers Use It. I agree that the quote is quite wordy and might be misremembered as the current redirect. --Lenticel (talk) 01:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The meaning of this expression absolutely does not refer to the literal disinfecting nature of sunlight, even though it is literally true. It refers to public scrutiny being an effective measure against corruption and grift (in banking, government, corporations, wherever). Whatever target is chosen must reflect the actual meaning of the expression/idiom as it is used, and not merely the literal meaning of the words. At the moment, I'm fine with the suggestion of Other People's Money and How the Bankers Use It, but it's possible there is an even better target simply regarding public scrutiny eliminating corruption, so I'm not bolding an official !vote other than not the current target. Fieari (talk) 05:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Old Rajans

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Not a useful Redirect IDB.S (talk) 06:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947edits 22:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NickToons (TV network)

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This redirect was created as result of an errant page move, which I tagged with R3 as recently created and implausible (but not misnomer) but was reverted, with a statement I should/must list it here, so here it is! Intrisit (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

VVikipedia

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Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Implausible redirect, unless you speak Latin Heyaaaaalol (talk) 18:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ah shit, here vve go again...
  • delete, for the same reason(s) as in the other rfd and per nom. the vvay i see it, at least, it requires that a reader dip their tongue on one of 3.5 flavors of conveniently forgetting what a w is (misscans/misreadings, latin/medieval english, tpyosquatting), and it hogs space usable for stuff on misspelled domain names consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 21:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per previous RFD and nom. My favorite flavor of conveniently forgetting what a w is is half blue raspberry, what's yours? mwwv converseedits 23:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, nobody is going to spell it like that. Sushidude21! (talk) 00:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Plausible misreading of the Wikipedia logo. I'm pretty sure I've seen overlapping Vs used in logos to mean "VV" rather than "W" once or twice. Not that strong of an argument, but redirects are cheap, and this isn't generalizable to all Ws. (Copy-pasted from last time since nothing has changed.) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 04:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I do agree with Tamzin, but "vvikipedia.com" and "vvikipedia.co" also exist. Additional note: Vikipedia is currently a redirect to List of Wikipedias, and WWikipedia redirects to Wikipedia. x RozuRozu teacups 05:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - 1st of all, we just had this discussion. It's kinda rude to bring it back up so soon... badgering isn't the best way to gain consensus. Can't we give it a break? That said, my arguments from the previous discussion have only changed from "hey, the stats aren't available yet, let's see if this gets some use..." to "the stats are available now, it definitely gets use and thus is useful". Why is it useful, what makes it plausible? While I can only speculate, I'd hazard a guess that OCR errors contribute heavily to its use. That's definitely not worthless! WP:CHEAP applies, the target is unambiguous, and it is harmless to boot. And to reiterate, "it's useful to someone" is a valid reason to keep here at RfD (in stark contrast to AfD!) and the pageviews for the very limited time this thing has been up demonstrates pretty clearly that it is, in fact, useful to someone. It may not be useful to you, but that's fine. It doesn't have to be useful to you personally to be useful to someone. Fieari (talk) 05:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leonid Ilyichev

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy disambiguate. Procedural close since the nominated page is no longer a redirect. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 04:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Making space for User:CitrusHemlock/Leonid Ilyichev CitrusHemlock 17:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate at one of the spellings, redirect the other to the new dab page, and move both articles to titles with disambiguators in the title. Both people have the same name, and both are fairly obscure to the point that it's hard to believe either is primary. The apparent difference is only due to transliteration to English, which is notoriously fluid for Russian names, and we shouldn't base the article title difference solely on that. I couldn't find if we have any standards for this...maybe the folks at WP:RUSSIA would have more to say. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate per 35.139. I think the -ev spelling is the better title for the dab page. In the meantime before this RfD gets closed, CitrusHemlock, you can move the draft to something like Leonid Ilyichev (politician). J947edits 21:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Will do, thanks. CitrusHemlock 21:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Milk bucket

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admittedly on the weak side of noms, but holding cow juice isn't mentioned as a thing buckets can do in the target, or in any articles related to it (that i could find, at least) consarn (this is a bucket) (dear god) 17:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Canvas bucket

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not mentioned in the article or in canvas. results seem torn on defining it as a bucket, a purse, a bucket pretending to be a purse, a purse predending to be a bucket, and a hat consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 17:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

five gallon bucket

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only mentioned in the name of one external link, which i'm honestly not entirely sure isn't spam. five-gallon bucket was an article until 2011, and it surprisingly had some sources, but i think those should be stashed somewhere for later use and the title returned to red as malformed and burgerland-centric, assuming the sources are usable in the first place consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 16:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I removed the whole EL section anyway, since it was awful. There's nothing special about this particular size, and these are no more useful search terms than n-gallon, m-liter, etc. buckets. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Ehh, I just noticed that the first one has some history...it claims that a merge happened, but I don't see anything that actually exists at the target. Maybe it did and got removed eventually, but it's long gone if so. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Landgraviate of Burgundy

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Proposal moot due to article creation. signed, Rosguill talk 18:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural nomination, previously blanked by an editor arguing the redirect was inappropriate, then the blanked page was tagged for speedy deletion. The "Landgraviate" is indeed not mentioned at the target page. It is mentioned in passing at History of Baden-Württemberg, although that seems perhaps misleading as the regions have only minimal overlap. Deletion to encourage article creation seems like the best option at this time. signed, Rosguill talk 15:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has now started an article draft at the title, making this discussion moot signed, Rosguill talk 18:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Cahercommane

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Irrelevant redirect, based on a flawed source from 1896. The Banner talk 15:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:ED

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It appears that this redirect is mostly used by accident (where the author intends to link to Wikipedia:Edit warring or Wikipedia:Edit summary), and currently links to an obscure deprecated page from Wikipedia's early days. I propose deleting it, since I don't think that there is a clear best alternative target JJPMaster (she/they) 06:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget to the disambiguation page or convert to a new disambiguation page with additional entries?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Planet B (TV series)

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Not mentioned in any part of the target page. 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 02:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Planet B is a former name of Boys II Planet. Aidillia(talk) 02:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So i don't know that the title was changed. Aidillia(talk) 02:39, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Planet B was the name that "Boys II Planet" was originally announced under. ([1]). It'll likely be retargeted to that article once the show gets underway and the article is moved out of the drafts. RachelTensions (talk) 03:53, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and career of Donald Trump

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In the target article's current state, the title of this redirect creates a potential WP:XY issue since the target section does not exist and the plausible section correction, Donald Trump#Early life and education, does not have any information about a "career". My first thought to fix this was to retarget to Donald Trump (remove the section redirect) since technically both subjects are in the target article somewhere, but since there seems to be no specific section to target this redirect, I decided to bring this redirect up for discussion since "delete" (weak delete for me) could be an option per the aforementioned WP:XY issue. Steel1943 (talk) 23:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYDW

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This list was redirected at AfD back in 2024. At the time, there was a "List of television and radio station in Metro Cebu" section. 120.29.79.172 (talk) 05:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move DYDW (disambiguation) to DYDW. Not sure that we need the DAB page, but if we're going to have it, it should be at the title without (disambiguation) in the name. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 20:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Dittman

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This is not a "pseudonym" for Elon Musk according to The Spectator World: https://thespectator.com/topic/real-adrian-dittmann-not-elon-musk-x-account-fiji/. Could possibly salvaged as a different redirect to a specific section for example. FallingGravity 03:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This Elon Musk impersonator probably meets GNG due to these sources [2] [3][4][5][6][7]. We could probably turn this into its own article. Badbluebus (talk) 03:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a redirect. Dittmann is definitely not notable on his own but all the articles that can be found about him are related to Elon. Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 07:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Can be kept as an rd to either Twitter under Elon Musk or Views of Elon Musk (if a mention is added therein) else it should be deleted. On notability, I think that this alleged alias or fan is notable enough, as of now, to have a mention on the main Elon Musk BLP and merit a redirect there (remember folks Wikipedia:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article applies equally here as well). Gotitbro (talk) 10:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Moving to delete per the last RDR highlighted below. Gotitbro (talk) 03:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as long as information about Dittmann is added to the Elon Musk article. I'm not convinced Dittmann is notable outside of his relationship to Musk and deserves his own page, so adding a small section about Dittmann's alleged (and now likely false) role as Musk's alt account is probably the best we can do. Based5290 :3 (talk) 23:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Carter's rabbit

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Could be misleading since the subject of the target article is not a rabbit that was owned by Jimmy Carter. Compare this to the possibility of redirecting Jimmy Carter's UFO to Jimmy Carter UFO incident, which is equally as misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Views on Tavix's argument about the meaning of the possessive form?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cremastra (uc) 01:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Roman destruction temple mount

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Again, redirect formatted as a search term with a list of key words. Roman destruction of the temple mount would be the correct title of this redirect. Cremastra (uc) 00:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]