Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 7, 2025.
Alternative jazz
[edit]- Alternative jazz → Jazz fusion (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The phrase "alternative jazz" seems like it would be vague. It is especially moreso vague because the phrase "alternative jazz" does not appear at the target article. May likely be a search term though, as there is a Grammy Award titled "Grammy Award for Best Alternative Jazz Album". That page could explain what it is? Because jazz fusion does not do that. "Alternative" appears nowhere in the article. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Haka sherpa sherpa
[edit]- Haka sherpa sherpa → Team America: World Police (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention of "haka", nor any mention of "sherpa" at the target page. Much less any mention of "haka sherpa sherpa". Utopes (talk / cont) 23:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's Trey Parker and Matt Stone film, so it's a racist imitation of Arabic language spoken in the film. BarntToust 23:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Cross Strait Three Regions
[edit]- Cross Strait Three Regions → Greater China (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Cross Strait Four Regions → Greater China (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neither "three regions" nor "four regions" are mentioned at the target page. Currently a possibly confusing redirect to Greater China. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Parietes
[edit]Not discussed at target. Since this is practically always used in its biological sense, I suggest doing a soft retarget to wikt:paries#English. Cremastra (u — c) 23:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Sunlight is the best disinfectant
[edit]- Sunlight is the best disinfectant → Disinfectant#Sunlight (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is presumably a redirect based on a minor misremembering of the quote "sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." However, Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants currently redirects to the source of the quote, not a serious discussion of its ability as a disinfectant. I'd guess that most people who search "sunlight is the best disinfectant" are misremembering the original quote and want to find the source of the quote, so the redirect target should be changed. Based5290 :3 (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Other People's Money and How the Bankers Use It. I agree that the quote is quite wordy and might be misremembered as the current redirect. --Lenticel (talk) 01:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - The meaning of this expression absolutely does not refer to the literal disinfecting nature of sunlight, even though it is literally true. It refers to public scrutiny being an effective measure against corruption and grift (in banking, government, corporations, wherever). Whatever target is chosen must reflect the actual meaning of the expression/idiom as it is used, and not merely the literal meaning of the words. At the moment, I'm fine with the suggestion of Other People's Money and How the Bankers Use It, but it's possible there is an even better target simply regarding public scrutiny eliminating corruption, so I'm not bolding an official !vote other than not the current target. Fieari (talk) 05:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Old Rajans
[edit]- Old Rajans → Dharmaraja College#Old Rajans (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not a useful Redirect IDB.S (talk) 06:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Refine to Dharmaraja College#Notable alumni, where this term is defined. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not a useful redirect. Dan arndt (talk) 03:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Refine to Dharmaraja College#Notable alumni per Presidentman. The term is mentioned (and explained) in the article, so a redirect is useful. --Cavarrone 17:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- It was unsourced and I've added a {{citation needed}}. Jay 💬 11:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Leaning delete; the mention at the proposed refine section is unsourced and some quick attempts to find a source turned up much more about a scouting association and a cricket club than the alumni of this college, so I'm not convinced that this redirect has a primary topic even if the mention at the college article can be sourced. Hog Farm Talk 03:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- So, it's complicated, because in some ways this functions more like a common noun than a proper name. Rajans are students of Dharmaraja College. Here's lots of pages on the school's site verifying that. Now, in many Commonwealth countries, "Old" StudentNickname is a way of saying alumni of a secondary school, e.g. Old Etonians. It seems that a number of entities affiliated with Dharmaraja alumni use "Old Rajans" as their names, including rugby and cricket teams. I'm struggling to find a singular source that says yes, "Old Rajans" means anyone who went to Dharmaraja, but that might be because it's just too simple a fact for anyone to have written down anywhere. Unless there's evidence that this term can mean anything other than a Dharmaraja College graduate, I would say keep. Would, that is, except I don't think this is the best target, and don't think Presidentman and Cavarrone's pick is either. Rather, retarget to List of Dharmaraja College alumni, the most on-point article on this. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 06:30, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 ‡ edits 22:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
NickToons (TV network)
[edit]- NickToons (TV network) → Nicktoons (American TV channel) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This redirect was created as result of an errant page move, which I tagged with R3 as recently created and implausible (but not misnomer) but was reverted, with a statement I should/must list it here, so here it is! Intrisit (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- what exactly is the issue? the capital t (yuck, capital letters), the use of "network" instead of channel, a 3th thing i'm missing...? consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 20:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. No reason why this redirect is harmful has been advanced. Appears perfectly plausible to me. J947 ‡ edits 21:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
VVikipedia
[edit]Implausible redirect, unless you speak Latin Heyaaaaalol (talk) 18:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Pointless and unhelpful. DanielRigal (talk) 20:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- There was just a long long discussion on this. Do we need to go through it again? J947 ‡ edits 21:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- delete, for the same reason(s) as in the other rfd and per nom. the vvay i see it, at least, it requires that a reader dip their tongue on one of 3.5 flavors of conveniently forgetting what a w is (misscans/misreadings, latin/medieval english, tpyosquatting), and it hogs space usable for stuff on misspelled domain names consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 21:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per previous RFD and nom. My favorite flavor of conveniently forgetting what a w is is half blue raspberry, what's yours? mwwv converse∫edits 23:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, nobody is going to spell it like that. Sushidude21! (talk) 00:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Plausible misreading of the Wikipedia logo. I'm pretty sure I've seen overlapping Vs used in logos to mean "VV" rather than "W" once or twice. Not that strong of an argument, but redirects are cheap, and this isn't generalizable to all Ws. (Copy-pasted from last time since nothing has changed.) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 04:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I do agree with Tamzin, but "vvikipedia.com" and "vvikipedia.co" also exist. Additional note: Vikipedia is currently a redirect to List of Wikipedias, and WWikipedia redirects to Wikipedia. x RozuRozu • teacups 05:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Vikipedia or Vikipediä is the localized name for Wikipedia in Farsi, Lezgian, and Lak, according to that list, so it makes sense for that term to be targeted there. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 06:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - 1st of all, we just had this discussion. It's kinda rude to bring it back up so soon... badgering isn't the best way to gain consensus. Can't we give it a break? That said, my arguments from the previous discussion have only changed from "hey, the stats aren't available yet, let's see if this gets some use..." to "the stats are available now, it definitely gets use and thus is useful". Why is it useful, what makes it plausible? While I can only speculate, I'd hazard a guess that OCR errors contribute heavily to its use. That's definitely not worthless! WP:CHEAP applies, the target is unambiguous, and it is harmless to boot. And to reiterate, "it's useful to someone" is a valid reason to keep here at RfD (in stark contrast to AfD!) and the pageviews for the very limited time this thing has been up demonstrates pretty clearly that it is, in fact, useful to someone. It may not be useful to you, but that's fine. It doesn't have to be useful to you personally to be useful to someone. Fieari (talk) 05:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Leonid Ilyichev
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was speedy disambiguate. Procedural close since the nominated page is no longer a redirect. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 04:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Leonid Ilyichev → Leonid Ilyichov (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Making space for User:CitrusHemlock/Leonid Ilyichev CitrusHemlock 17:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate at one of the spellings, redirect the other to the new dab page, and move both articles to titles with disambiguators in the title. Both people have the same name, and both are fairly obscure to the point that it's hard to believe either is primary. The apparent difference is only due to transliteration to English, which is notoriously fluid for Russian names, and we shouldn't base the article title difference solely on that. I couldn't find if we have any standards for this...maybe the folks at WP:RUSSIA would have more to say. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per 35.139. I think the -ev spelling is the better title for the dab page. In the meantime before this RfD gets closed, CitrusHemlock, you can move the draft to something like Leonid Ilyichev (politician). J947 ‡ edits 21:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Will do, thanks. CitrusHemlock 21:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
Milk bucket
[edit]admittedly on the weak side of noms, but holding cow juice isn't mentioned as a thing buckets can do in the target, or in any articles related to it (that i could find, at least) consarn (this is a bucket) (dear god) 17:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- 50/50 Weak retarget to Milking#Hand milking, where it does actually note that it's typically done into a bucket, or just delete, since it's kind of overly specific. But it definitely shouldn't redirect to the general article for someone clearly looking for something more specific. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Milking#Hand milking per IP above as a better target. Fieari (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Canvas bucket
[edit]not mentioned in the article or in canvas. results seem torn on defining it as a bucket, a purse, a bucket pretending to be a purse, a purse predending to be a bucket, and a hat consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 17:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep They are not rare in boats, as a space saving collapsible device, or for fire-fighting (probably not these days). They certainly could be mentioned. Johnbod (talk) 17:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- So mention them, but otherwise, this is misleading, as it takes a reader to a page with no information about the topic. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 18:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, no mention of anything specific to canvas at the target. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 18:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The phrase seems to have mentions on 7 different articles, with the Canvas and Bucket not being on that list. None of the 7 articles seem to be good retargeting options for this redirect either. WP:REDLINK seems to be the best way to go at the present time. Steel1943 (talk) 19:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RETURNTORED to encourage article creation, per Johnbod's argument above. Fieari (talk) 05:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
five gallon bucket
[edit]- Five-gallon bucket → Bucket (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Five gallon bucket → Bucket (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
only mentioned in the name of one external link, which i'm honestly not entirely sure isn't spam. five-gallon bucket was an article until 2011, and it surprisingly had some sources, but i think those should be stashed somewhere for later use and the title returned to red as malformed and burgerland-centric, assuming the sources are usable in the first place consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 16:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I removed the whole EL section anyway, since it was awful. There's nothing special about this particular size, and these are no more useful search terms than n-gallon, m-liter, etc. buckets. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ehh, I just noticed that the first one has some history...it claims that a merge happened, but I don't see anything that actually exists at the target. Maybe it did and got removed eventually, but it's long gone if so. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Landgraviate of Burgundy
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Proposal moot due to article creation. signed, Rosguill talk 18:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Landgraviate of Burgundy → Kingdom of Arles (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Procedural nomination, previously blanked by an editor arguing the redirect was inappropriate, then the blanked page was tagged for speedy deletion. The "Landgraviate" is indeed not mentioned at the target page. It is mentioned in passing at History of Baden-Württemberg, although that seems perhaps misleading as the regions have only minimal overlap. Deletion to encourage article creation seems like the best option at this time. signed, Rosguill talk 15:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- An editor has now started an article draft at the title, making this discussion moot signed, Rosguill talk 18:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
Cahercommane
[edit]- Cahercommane → Cahercommaun (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Irrelevant redirect, based on a flawed source from 1896. The Banner talk 15:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Incorrect.The article's lead says it's "sometimes Cahercommane" which is as I found the page.I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm@The Banner has removed credible sources from the page.National library of Ireland: https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581This is also how it's known locally as I live in the area and I've known it as this name my entire life. Irish names often have different spellings. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Monument Name: CahercommaneNo worries if this was just another oversight @The BannerAgain, please remove this request and stop removing credible sources from the page. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:SYNTH. The Banner talk 16:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- your reasoning is churlish Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- That policy applies only to articles. Synthesis of sources is perfectly appropriate for determining the validity of a redirect. J947 ‡ edits 21:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:SYNTH. The Banner talk 16:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Monument Name: CahercommaneNo worries if this was just another oversight @The BannerAgain, please remove this request and stop removing credible sources from the page. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – even if the source is flawed, it's still an alternate name that readers could use to search. The National Library of Ireland source using Cahercommane at all is an auto-keep for me.
{{R from incorrect name}}
is a valid redirect category, after all. (The National Library of Ireland source might even be enough for me to add it to the article, but I don't have much experience in this area, so I'll let more experienced editors handle it.) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC) - Keep. Whether this is a correct name or not is not important at RfD: what matters is that (a) this is clearly a possible search term, and (b) this is clearly the right target for this redirect. J947 ‡ edits 21:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - this is a form used for the monument in question, and so could be searched, and should redirect accordingly. Both the local library service, with expertise in local history, and the national library of the country, use this form sometimes. Like almost every language, Irish had historically quite varied spelling, and anglicisations from Irish are a mess of different attempts at reproducing sounds, so there seems nothing unusual or contrary to policy about this item. SeoR (talk) 02:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Redirects are not article content, and need not be held to the same standards. Redirects from errors and mistakes are perfectly acceptable-- I am not qualified to judge whether it actually is a mistake, but it doesn't matter either way. The fact that it is published means that it is something someone might want to look up. Fieari (talk) 06:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia:ED
[edit]- Wikipedia:ED → Wikipedia:Experimental deletion (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It appears that this redirect is mostly used by accident (where the author intends to link to Wikipedia:Edit warring or Wikipedia:Edit summary), and currently links to an obscure deprecated page from Wikipedia's early days. I propose deleting it, since I don't think that there is a clear best alternative target JJPMaster (she/they) 06:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Delete.Out of 960 links, over 900 are the result of a mistake in a message template used by VoABot II during a period in 2007. Of the rest, about ⅔ are editor mistakes and the remainder pages with lists of shortcuts.I don't see a particularly good target for this either.— Hex • talk 12:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)- Retarget to the disambiguation page at WP:WikiEd per Liz's suggestion. — Hex • talk 18:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I would have thought it would be for the WP:WikiEd thing -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 18:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate – if a two-character shortcut could plausibly refer to many project pages, I think it's better to convert it to a disambiguation page than to delete it. See Category:Wikipedia disambiguation pages for examples. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate given there are several uses and the target is historical anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:48, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- It seems like some editors or readers could use this abbreviation to try to reach Wikipedia:WikiEd. Liz Read! Talk! 06:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- It does make me think of wikEd as well, I think that you've hit a good one here. I'm changing to retarget. — Hex • talk 18:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- DAB: Convert to internal disambiguation page; that way any plausible mistaken use of it can still be puzzled out, instead of just going nowhere. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget to the disambiguation page or convert to a new disambiguation page with additional entries?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate (by creating a new page overwriting the nominated redirect) or weak keep since deletion is not a good option since this redirect has existed for almost 20 years, meaning it potentially is linked in edit summaries. Steel1943 (talk) 19:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- DAB drafted – feel free to edit as desired to add more possible shortcuts, I just added everything that was mentioned here. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- As a side note, there is a disambiguation page at Wikipedia:WikiEd, but all of Wikipedia:WIKIED, Wikipedia:Wikied and Wikipedia:WIKIEDU target m:Wiki Education Foundation. Might need an RFD for those too. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Planet B (TV series)
[edit]- Planet B (TV series) → Mnet (TV channel)#Upcoming programming (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in any part of the target page. 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 02:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Planet B is a former name of Boys II Planet. Aidillia(talk) 02:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- So i don't know that the title was changed. Aidillia(talk) 02:39, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Planet B was the name that "Boys II Planet" was originally announced under. ([1]). It'll likely be retargeted to that article once the show gets underway and the article is moved out of the drafts. RachelTensions (talk) 03:53, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Early life and career of Donald Trump
[edit]- Early life and career of Donald Trump → Donald Trump#Early life (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
In the target article's current state, the title of this redirect creates a potential WP:XY issue since the target section does not exist and the plausible section correction, Donald Trump#Early life and education, does not have any information about a "career". My first thought to fix this was to retarget to Donald Trump (remove the section redirect) since technically both subjects are in the target article somewhere, but since there seems to be no specific section to target this redirect, I decided to bring this redirect up for discussion since "delete" (weak delete for me) could be an option per the aforementioned WP:XY issue. Steel1943 (talk) 23:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- This should probably be a redirect if only because of the existence of the comparable Early life and career of Kamala Harris as an article. I don't mind if this is unrefined or kept as is, as it doesn't require much scrolling to get from Donald Trump#Early life and education to Donald Trump#Business career. J947 ‡ edits 23:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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DYDW
[edit]- DYDW → Word Broadcasting Corporation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This list was redirected at AfD back in 2024. At the time, there was a "List of television and radio station in Metro Cebu" section. 120.29.79.172 (talk) 05:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Move DYDW (disambiguation) to DYDW. Not sure that we need the DAB page, but if we're going to have it, it should be at the title without (disambiguation) in the name. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 20:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- ...or, better in my view, Keep, and delete DYDW (disambiguation) (and remove the piped circular redirect at Word Broadcasting Corporation). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Move DYDW (disambiguation) to DYDW - There are two stations with this call-sign (TV and radio?) so I do see the point in disambiguating them. The DAB should not need the (disambiguation) marker. I wouldn't object if someone wanted to turn the DAB into a Set Index Article instead. Fieari (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Adrian Dittman
[edit]This is not a "pseudonym" for Elon Musk according to The Spectator World: https://thespectator.com/topic/real-adrian-dittmann-not-elon-musk-x-account-fiji/. Could possibly salvaged as a different redirect to a specific section for example. FallingGravity 03:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- This Elon Musk impersonator probably meets GNG due to these sources [2] [3][4][5][6][7]. We could probably turn this into its own article. Badbluebus (talk) 03:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep for now. Dittman appears to be only notable in that its possible they are Musk. I haven't seen much written about Dittman in their own right. Flat Out (talk) 05:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, not mentioned at target. I don't know what the story here is, and anyone who wants to know more by searching for this isn't going to find it out either. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 05:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as a redirect. Dittmann is definitely not notable on his own but all the articles that can be found about him are related to Elon. Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 07:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete unless a mention is added, as for now it just takes you to Elon Musk's article without indicating they are (seemingly) separate people. In addition, it is also misspelled and should be Adrian Dittmann. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 08:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- If kept, Adrian Dittmann should be created and this should be tagged with
{{Avoided double redirect|Adrian Dittmann}}
. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 19:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- If kept, Adrian Dittmann should be created and this should be tagged with
- Comment Can be kept as an rd to either Twitter under Elon Musk or Views of Elon Musk (if a mention is added therein) else it should be deleted. On notability, I think that this alleged alias or fan is notable enough, as of now, to have a mention on the main Elon Musk BLP and merit a redirect there (remember folks Wikipedia:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article applies equally here as well). Gotitbro (talk) 10:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Moving to delete per the last RDR highlighted below. Gotitbro (talk) 03:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Misspelling of a self professsd pseudonym. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per the very recent result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 29#Adrian Dittmann. Utopes (talk / cont) 13:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Musk himself claims that he is the guy. The prev discussion was based on premise that the guys is unknown person.
- Kiran_891 (TALK) 17:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- That has been reporter to be a joke/trolling, and given the suspension of The Spectator journalist should not be taken seriously. Gotitbro (talk) 03:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, there is a surprisingly large amount of coverage on the topic. It clearly meets GNG but due to the BLP aspects does appear to be better handled as a redirect rather than stand-alone page. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as long as information about Dittmann is added to the Elon Musk article. I'm not convinced Dittmann is notable outside of his relationship to Musk and deserves his own page, so adding a small section about Dittmann's alleged (and now likely false) role as Musk's alt account is probably the best we can do. Based5290 :3 (talk) 23:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Jimmy Carter's rabbit
[edit]- Jimmy Carter's rabbit → Jimmy Carter rabbit incident (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Could be misleading since the subject of the target article is not a rabbit that was owned by Jimmy Carter. Compare this to the possibility of redirecting Jimmy Carter's UFO to Jimmy Carter UFO incident, which is equally as misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – agreed, misleading and unlikely to help. GA-RT-22 (talk) 22:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Clear keep – this is an eminently plausible, if semantically incorrect, search term. Pageviews demonstrate this. Furthermore, K4 applies as this redirect is an {{R from move}}. J947 ‡ edits 22:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per J947. Might be worth noting that that move was in 2007, however. Tessaract2Hi! 19:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Strong keep. The possessive form is used to demonstrate a relationship, it's not necessarily ownership (otherwise phrases like "my wife" would be problematic!). "Jimmy Carter's rabbit" would therefore be a correct way to refer to a rabbit that allegedly attacked Jimmy Carter. If a victim is describing someone that attacked them, it would be natural to start the sentence with the possessive phrase "My attacker..." That it's a {{R from move}} and doesn't appear to be ambiguous strengthens the argument. -- Tavix (talk) 20:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Views on Tavix's argument about the meaning of the possessive form?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cremastra (u — c) 01:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Tavix. Even if the reader had the sense of ownership in mind, the article quickly corrects their misconception. Ca talk to me! 02:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Cheap redirect from a misnomer. I don't necessarily think it should have been created, but merely having an incorrect title doesn't mean the redirect needs to be deleted either, though I have to note that the recent pageviews are only because of the nomination on 30 December (interestingly, it used to garner more pageviews in the previous years). Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 22:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - It's the rabbit strongly associated with Jimmy Carter. Actual ownership need not be the case. Fieari (talk) 05:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Roman destruction temple mount
[edit]- Roman destruction temple mount → Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE)#Destruction of the Temple (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Again, redirect formatted as a search term with a list of key words. Roman destruction of the temple mount would be the correct title of this redirect. Cremastra (u — c) 00:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete ungrammatical search term. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)