Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 March 8

March 8

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 8, 2014.

Gergonne point

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The result of the discussion was keep, but anyone can overwrite the redirect with an article. (NAC) Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 07:31, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gergonne point → Incircle and excircles of a triangle (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

term not explained in target ï¿½ (talk) 23:30, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Write the article. This seems to be a notable enough concept, see e.g. [1], [2], [3]. Having said that, Incircle and excircles of a triangle#Gergonne triangle and point looks very much like an explanation of the term to me. 172.9.22.150 (talk) 01:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Thanks for the refs, that might help improve the article there. The redirect should be marked {{R to section}} and it is handy to put a courtesy comment in the section just to allow other editors who move things around to realise that it is there, but that can be done after we have consensus here, I don't like changing things while they are under discussion. Si Trew (talk) 10:51, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Write the article I agree with the IP. We should write an article about this, it shouldn't even be up for discussion Ned1230|Whine|Stalk 19:19, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and refine target to Incircle and excircles of a triangle#Gergonne triangle and point (which was there at this nomination). A standalone article on the topic would be great, but in the meantime, we have information on the subject, and readers will be served by our delivering that information. --BDD (talk) 17:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The Haircuts

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:26, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Haircuts → Your Show of Shows (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Not mentioned at target; connection to subject unclear. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:19, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Assuming they were on this show, this is WP:BAND, not notable band. Si Trew (talk) 22:05, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:SimonTrew, User:TenPoundHammer; how many mentions of this sketch/band featuring Sid Caesar, Carl Reiner, and Howard Morris are in Google Books? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:09, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but I probably get different search results from you since Google Books (and Goolge generally) tends to target a search to where it thinks you live. But when I checked (as far as I can see) and may be famous to some but not to me, so maybe it is just not W:WORLDWIDE. The Rutles for example might be a good analogy to support your argument? I should have thought you would tell me how references Google Books says for you, rather than me having to look it up myself. Si Trew (talk) 21:33, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here are my results from Google Books for a search or "The Haircuts"

Cut&Cup Hairsalon - ALLEE(www.cutandcup.hu):

Capital Adequacy beyond Basel : Banking, Securities, and ...

Haircuts: Estimating Investor Losses in Sovereign Debt (ISBN 1452768323)

Risk-Based Capital: Regulatory and Industry Approaches to... (ISBN 0788186701)

Changing Nature of Financial Intermediation and the... (ISBN 1437930905)

Federal Housing Finance Agency: Oversight of the Federal ... (ISBN 1437938302)

Handbook of Debt Management page 516, (ISBN 0824793889)

etc cetera ad nauseam. All my search results at Google Books are back to books about Haircut (finance). You might get different results. But I get none on Google Books to the band. Si Trew (talk) 21:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This looks like a vandal's work or something and should be deleted Ned1230|Whine|Stalk 19:18, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Luke_Kenny

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Kenny → Rise of the Zombie (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Delete per WP:Redlink Cyan.aqua 17:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A quick web search shows he is a prominent performer in the film at the target (just type in "Luke Kenny" ino your favourite search engine), and this was a prominent, recent film. That article is a stub, but so what, that is WP:NOTFINISHED. The other actors mentioned in Rise of the Zombie#Cast all have articles. If this is Kennny's first film perhaps he is not WP:N but either it is deleted or this is the best target, and since a quick search with my favourite search engine indicates he is notable, this is the place for it to go. I don't think WP:REDLINK applies really, more WP:NOTFINISHED. Si Trew (talk) 22:23, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That movie is not his only notable work. See Rock On!!. Cyan.aqua 14:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally he should have his own article, then, but he hasn't and I am not qualified to make one, I never heard of this person. What would you do with it? Si Trew (talk) 15:16, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Why does it have a weird space in it? It should be Luke Kenny. Ned1230|Whine|Stalk 19:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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By the way, it looks like this was an article that was subject to WP:D-R back in January. See the comment at Talk:Rise of the Zombie#Redirection of Luke Kenny to Rise of the Zombie. I or another admin can restore the article as it stood prior to redirection if that would be helpful. --BDD (talk) 17:12, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BDD, I think it's time to resurrect that article. How do we go about? Best, Jean Stair (talk) 15:57, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done See Draft:Luke Kenny. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rear end

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The result of the discussion was dabify. --BDD (talk) 17:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rear end → Rear-end collision (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Just because searching rear-end doesn't mean that the reader wants to go to rear-end collision, rear end can mean something entirely different. Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa¹²³|UPage|_☺★ (talk) 11:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Create a DAB Agree, it certainly doesn't mean always a rear-end collision, perhaps it should have a DAB? Could go to arse or anus or anal sex on that DAB, as well as rear-end collision. It could also jus go to back or something like that. I am just suggesting entries for the DAB but they are just off the top of my head and other editors I am sure would have better suggestions. Si Trew (talk) 12:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate and point rear-end to the dab page as well -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 06:52, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget or disambiguate This should be redirected towards Buttocks. Ned1230|Whine|Stalk 19:16, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Greek Goddess of Mental Fortitude

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Greek Goddess of Mental Fortitude → Sophrosyne (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Delete. That's just wrong. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:21, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Rubin. There is no point sending people down a blind alley to find the wrong information. Si Trew (talk) 12:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

delete for same reasons as above--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa¹²³|UPage|_☺★ (talk) 12:38, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) It could go perhaps to Artemis. Si Trew (talk) 12:41, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The creator of the redirect has created multiple useless and absurd redirects as I found out after I checked his talk page that were all listed at RfD.--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa¹²³|UPage|_☺★ (talk) 12:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as implausible synonym. --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete What the heck? No one is looking for this. Ned1230|Whine|Stalk 19:16, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Greek: "a healthy mind in a healthy body

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:59, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Greek: "a healthy mind in a healthy body → Sophrosyne (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]

Delete. Improbable redirect, due to the unbalanced quotes. A healthy mind in a healthy body might be an appropriate redirect, but the opening makes it extremely unlikely to be entered. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:21, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Rubin. The equivalent in latin is Latin: Mens sana in corpore sano if that helps at all, the article is there, but I think Rubin is just asking for delete for the unlikely unbalanced quotes and that it has "Greek:" in the title itself, not the expression itself. There is a joke that a man in the rag trade then advertised "Mens, womens and children's sana in corpore sano" I mention that to let other editors judge if this is a likely search term. Si Trew (talk) 12:24, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The title of the redirect is too long for the redirect to be useful, if it is even being used at all.Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawan¹²³|UPage|_☺★ (talk) 12:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The creator of the redirect has created multiple useless and absurd redirects as I found out after I checked his talk page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs) 12:45, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the talk page. It is too easy these days to just hit a button rather than doing one's homework, in my opinion. 22:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Comment: Perhaps one solution would be having redirects & variants for 'Healthy mind in a healthy body' (Greek)', 'Healthy mind in a healthy body (Latin)', 'A healthy mind in a healthy body (Greek)', 'healthy mind in a healthy body', etc. along with a DAB page where the terms are all brought together? If "Sophrosyne" is the root term/concept of the well-known Latin phrase 'mens sana in corpore sano' (as interpreted by Juvenal) then I think it should also be somehow acknowledged as the parent and as a possible search term. Shearonink (talk) 17:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I couldn't find it in either Classical Greek or Modern Greek at all, Then you would have to have "[A] Healthy mind in [a] healthy body (Modern Greek)" and "[A] Healthy mind in [a] healthy body (Classical Greek)" (these languages are not good on indefinite articles so I should not know whether to include the "A") and neither of them fits the English Wikipedia you then do them in Greek script. Searches I made online come back to Seneca or Modern French: Un esprit sain dans un corps sain but that doesn't help much; here at answers.com it says it was Thales. I couldn't actually find it in Greek at all (online) but only in the Latin. Si Trew (talk) 23:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is one of the stupidest redirects I've seen so far Ned1230|Whine|Stalk 19:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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