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Category:American expatriate baseball players in Canada

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 01:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: What constitutes an expatriate? Is it someone who moves to another country, or works there? If the latter, how long and/or often do they need to work there? Is his permanent residence relevant? An American who plays for a Canadian team plays at most half his team's games in Canada, with the rest in the United States. As for a Canadian on a Canadian team, he will similarly play half his team's games in Canada, but now he plays the other half in the United States - does that make him an expatriate Canadian in the United States while he is a member of a Canadian team? And does this player's permanent residence matter?

Further:
- is this status permanent, or does it end when the player stops playing for the related team?
- when does this status take effect? does an American on an American team who plays say six games on the road in Toronto in a season qualify?
- this category title just says "...players in Canada". Should it specify players who live in Canada, or who play/work in Canada, etc?

There are endless similar categories in multiple sports featuring multiple countries that could be affected, but let's start here. Is this even a defining characteristic? Baseball players can be defined by their hometowns, their position(s) played, the team(s) for which they played, etc, but does this expat category even serve a meaningful purpose? There are ~2400 players in this category, including people like Butch Alberts, who played his entire six game career for the Blue Jays (3 in Canada, 3 on the road in the United States, for what it's worth) in 1978. Should he qualify for this category and why? Echoedmyron (talk) 22:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Music pedagogues by instrument

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * it has begun... 01:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These categories are the only in the Category:Music educators tree which don't use "educators". The terms "music pedagogue" and "music pedagogy" both redirect to music education, the main topic for this category, and that article uses "pedagogy" just 17 times ("pedagogue" gets zero) while "education" appears 220 times and "educator" 31. Unsurprising, as "pedagogy" is a less common academic term, at least in my experience. All reasons for which I think it would make more sense to make this change. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 21:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:United Kingdom history book stubs

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:British history book stubs. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with Category:German history book stubs and also with its own sisters Category:British battle stubs and Category:British election stubs‎. Using UK as the nationality is incorrect. PearlyGigs (talk) 21:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --Fadesga (talk) 21:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Phobias

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 9#Category:Phobias

Category:1st-century bishops of Carthage

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category which is not helpful for navigation between articles. Besides it is not certain whether the subject of the only article was a bishop of Carthage or Cartagena. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per rationale. OhHaiMark (talk) 15:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battles during Roman Civil wars

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:Battles, Category:Civil wars and Category:Roman civil wars not subcategorized this way. Gjs238 (talk) 16:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Northern and Southern dynasties Buddhist monks

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, narrow intersection between very short-living dynasties (typically a few decades) and religion and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 16:31, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Prague-West geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Central Bohemian Region geography stubs. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge with template into parent Category:Central Bohemian Region geography stubs. This and the nomination above fail to reach a reasonable number of stubs (around 60 is the usual cut-off). Not understubbed as far as I can tell. Note: if kept, it should be renamed to Category:Prague-West District geography stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs).Grutness...wha? 06:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@FromCzech: pinging. Grutness...wha? 06:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 16:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mělník geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Central Bohemian Region geography stubs. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge with template into parent Category:Central Bohemian Region geography stubs. This and the nomination below fail to reach a reasonable number of stubs (around 60 is the usual cut-off). Not understubbed as far as I can tell. Note: if kept, it should be renamed to Category:Mělník District geography stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Grutness...wha? 06:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@FromCzech: pinging. Grutness...wha? 06:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 16:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:British co-ed groups

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 3#Category:British co-ed groups

Category:Checkmat

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:Brazilian jiu-jitsu training facilities not subcategorized by individual jiu-jitsu academies. Gjs238 (talk) 16:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dream Art

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:Brazilian jiu-jitsu training facilities not subcategorized by individual jiu-jitsu academies. Gjs238 (talk) 16:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:3rd century in Africa (Roman province)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 3#Category:3rd century in Africa (Roman province)

Category:Articles unintentionally citing retracted publications

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up from Previous Cfd. However, all these templates are linked, so keeping the convention constant will be ideal. For context, {{retracted}} is added by bots and humans, so we should not be assuming that a retraction is used unintentially just because it is tagged. Moving the "default" categories to the neutral names, and moving the "checked"/"intentional" to subcategories seems like a better way to do this. Mdann52 (talk) 06:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:School fire disasters

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:School fires. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Superfluous/unclear distinction between these two categories; a fire is, by definition, a disaster ForsythiaJo (talk) 02:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Related to Ulterior Motives

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We don't create categories for "related" topics Skyshiftertalk 00:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete i don’t care anymore just delete it Kierandude (talk) 17:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Old style serif typefaces

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 9#Category:Old style serif typefaces

Category:Women conservationists

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Conservationists. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 23:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A non-notable intersection of gender and occupation. User:Namiba 14:22, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sort the rules out Wikipedia's policy on this is far from clear. Category deletion should be based on a clearly agreed set of rules and until then such categories should be left alone. Why is a "Female United States senators" category OK when "women conservationists" is not. I can assure you that to become a conservationist in PNG is for a women in PNG a considerable achievement and far from "non-notable". Roundtheworld (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on merging?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 16:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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