Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Will Harris (businessman)

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The result was delete. Downweighting comments from discussants with limited wiki experience, there is clear consensus to delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:14, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will Harris (businessman)

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Not seeing any reliable independent source coverage of this guy, making him non-notable. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:20, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 18:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 18:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a non-notable businessman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:13, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (Author). there are enough sources that meet WP:RS to deem him notable. He is the founder of an organization, owns multiple companies, and is an author. Lonk11 (talk) 14:01, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Where are the sources that satisfy WP:RS, since they are not in the article? Many people found organizations, own companies, and self-publish books, but these things do not confer notability on their own. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:10, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Since Harris has done a lot of his work in other countries (primarily India), a lot of sources are in other languages. I found an Indian newspaper article on him and I am trying to translate it to Wiki reference terms. Lonk11 (talk) 16:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Found several sources pointing to his work in India at Sikkim University. He has given TED Talks there, he was a speaker for Sikkim University's engineering school induction, he hosts workshops in India, and he has been written about in several Indian Newspaper outlets that can not be found online. He is notable in India though, which shouldn't keep him from having a Wikipedia page. (https://www.ted.com/tedx/events/17319) (https://iusikkim.edu.in/E-Magazine.pdf) (https://www.sipnaengg.ac.in/induction-programme/) Translated Indian Newspaper article on FB (https://www.facebook.com/thevoiceofsikkim/posts/who-is-will-harristeacher-bestselling-author-social-entrepreneur-humanitarianwil/914426438650186/)Lonk11 (talk) 18:12, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @Lonk11: Lets go through these 4 new references you have listed one-by-one for suitability:

Ted Talk – this is him giving a Ted Talk to promote himself and his business. Not a suitable RS for WP:GNG

ICFAI University Sikkim Brochure – this is a brochure from a university mentioning a "motivational speaker" talk by Bill Harris. Not a suitable RS for WP:GNG

Sipna College of Engineering and Technology, Amravati – Induction programme featuring "movitational speaker" Bill Harris. Not a suitable RS for WP:GNG

Facebook: Who is Will Harris – a facebook page promiting Bill Harris. Not a suitable RS for WP:GNG

All of these are unsuitable, and imply a major WP:PROMO aspect to this BLP. Britishfinance (talk) 20:16, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Delete. I could not find any solid good RS that would establish notability (never mind several). Article is very promotional. Britishfinance (talk) 14:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. After checking new sources from the author (see above and below), can see that there is a strong WP:PROMO / WP:COI here. Britishfinance (talk) 20:28, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Toned down promotional material - not sure what Indian sources are being referred to here. Weak keep. Justwatchmee (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. As you have just joined Wikipedia and have already being editing this article (and making properly formatted contributions to AfD, your 13th edit on WP, which could raise a concern of WP:SOCK), you may not be familiar that AfD is not a vote - you need to provide good sources that meet WP:RS that prove notability. Founding an organization is not notable if no significant independent third party source notices it. At the moment we have none. Can you provide such sources?Britishfinance (talk) 18:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please add any reliable sources to the article
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 19:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - does not pass WP:GNG. Skirts⁸⁹ 21:57, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. He is notable in India - primarily because of his work with Sikkim University. See sources above. Lonk11 (talk) 18:12, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I have reviewed these 4 new references above. They are junk, and highlight a material WP:PROMO aspect to this article. They also highlight a possible WP:COI issue as this article represents the bulk of all your edits on WP. Britishfinance (talk) 20:17, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable sources places him as a best-selling author. He also has done significant works both as a motivational speaker/writer and a businessman. Laboj (talk) 22:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Another new WP editor who has found their way to AfD. That is two potential WP:SOCKs now. Bill must be paying up for this article. Britishfinance (talk) 22:31, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes to Closer. We have keeps from the article author and two SPAs. Regrding WP policy, there is still not any material RS (nevermind several) to give GNG. No newspaper article, independent book, chapter of independent book, tv review or other quality RS media, where he was the subject. We can prove existance, but nothing re notability. Britishfinance (talk) 22:06, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (Author) I've provided several sources covering multiple aspects of Harris's career. He does most of his work in India where he has had a lot of newspaper coverage but in another language, and I've provided other sources noting his work in several fields. Harris has sustainable notability throughout many aspects of his life. He meets WP:GNG because of this. Lonk11 (talk) 18:28, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment All the additional sources have been gone through above and none are close to being a RS that would establish notability. Not one. Britishfinance (talk) 18:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Subject fails WP:ANYBIO. Sources suck. Article is borderline CSD G11 material. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:34, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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