Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Will Colbert

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The result was keep. MBisanz ^talk 01:53, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Will Colbert

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fails NHOCKEY and GNG Joeykai (talk) 04:36, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:49, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:49, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:50, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This article appears to meet WP:NHOCKEY which states "Ice hockey players are presumed notable if they: 1. Played one or more games in an existing or defunct top professional league". The article and references indicate that during the 2012–13 season he played 33 games with the Belfast Giants of the Elite Ice Hockey League, which per the league article is "the highest level of ice hockey competition in the United Kingdom". Also, during the 2013–14 season he played 35 games with the Tilburg Trappers of the Eredivisie, which per the league article is "the only professional ice hockey league in the Netherlands and the highest level of competition organized by the Nederlandse IJshockey Bond (Dutch Ice Hockey Federation)". If I am mistaken please let me know. Thanks. -- Zyxw (talk) 11:38, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are mistaken. According to WP:NHOCKEY/LA both the EIHL and Eredivisie are considered "lower-level leagues" "for the purpose of satisfying Criterion #4." Criterion #4 is "achieved preeminent honors." Joeykai (talk) 13:28, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Joeykai is correct that WP:NHOCKEY/LA specifies that both of the leagues involved here are considered lower-level leagues that can get some players over NHOCKEY point #4, but do not give all their players an automatic #1 pass the way the NHL does. And nothing claimed here fulfills #4. Bearcat (talk) 19:17, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep According to his Eliteprospects profile he won the award for best defenseman in the Eredivisie the one year he played. That would seem to me to meet the requirement of criterion 4 as achieving a preeminent honor. Even in a narrow interpretation of preeminent honor, the best defenseman is equivelant to being a first team all-star that is listed (actually better since presumably there are two all-star defenseman and he is number one). Therefore we can presume sources exist - I would presume they are in Dutch so will be hard to find, but we should presume they exist and that we should keep. RonSigPi (talk) 00:28, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:42, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I agree with RonSigPi that being named Top Defenseman in the league is functionally equivalent (at least) to being a first team all-star, and so he meets criterion #4 of WP:NHOCKEY. Rlendog (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per RonSigPi's reasoning and arguments. I agree that Colbert certainly appears to meet the spirit, if not the letter of WP:NHOCKEY Criteria #4. Ejgreen77 (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.