Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ventus (Kingdom Hearts)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Characters of Kingdom Hearts#Ventus. czar 02:37, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ventus (Kingdom Hearts)

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GA criteria has no bearing with the article's notability. The main problem with the article is there is next to no reception about him as a character, and none that passes any amount of WP:SIGCOV. There is nothing, but passing mentions from the game reviews. I cannot find anything per WP:BEFORE. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 10:30, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Video games. Shellwood (talk) 11:11, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Characters of Kingdom Hearts. The characters are certainly noteworthy as part of a group, but there's nothing indicating this character is standalone notable. There are a great many primary sources, but Wikipedia is not FANDOM and also requires SIGCOV in secondary sources. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:29, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge No commentary besides some trivial "wow he looks like Roxas" comments. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:46, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. While there is a small consensus to Merge this article, it is also a GA. I think we should hear from more editors before merging an article declared a GA into another, much longer article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:48, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per above - Outside of the primary sources (the games themselves and official KH publications), the sources are all general reviews of Birth By Sleep or the KH franchise as a whole, with the small bits content mentioning Ventus in specific being cherry picked out to comprise the "Reception" section. Many of these sources only very briefly talk about him, or only talk about all three of the characters in BBS as a set without any commentary on Ventus specifically. Searching for sources outside of the article turns up plenty of articles mentioning him while discussing the plots of the game or in gameplay guides, but not much in the way of actual analysis or reception of Ventus. Rorshacma (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Characters of Kingdom Hearts. Despite being a main character in BBS, his role in KH3 is limited as a side character at best and compared to the other main characters who have appeared with more significant roles in the franchise, I'd say WP:SIGCOV keeps this article from being in effect. Conyo14 (talk) 18:15, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.