Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanki King

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This looks fairly valid. Not enough discussion yet, no prejudice against speedy renomination. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:03, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sanki King

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This article was dePRODed - Concern was: Article on an artist that does not indicate that the subject of the article is important or significant. The references provided are not reliable per WP:RS and fail to assert notability for a creative professional at WP:ARTIST., and has since been blanked several times by the creator. WP:G7 (author blanked) does not apply since other editors have contributed, albeit maintenance work, and some minor contribs by an IP. The only references of depth are a blog by a fee-lance journalist, and The news.com which probably do not satisfy WP:RS and WP:ARTIST in number and depth. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — TheSpecialUser ^(TSU) 14:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The story in the Gulf News is not a blog, its an article which was published in The Gulf News newspaper, and the writer is a freelance British journalist, she is not from Islamabad, that was an error made by the website editor. Also, on 22nd of July there will be a feature story getting published about the hip hop culture in Pakistan in express tribune magazine, and Sanki King is one of the main characters of that story, plus the writer of the story is the same journalist who wrote the Gulf News story. It is my humble request that you do not delete Sanki King until that story is published so you can read the story by yourself. I have recently added references to the article, please check them as soon as possible. Thanks, — SameStruggle 09:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 16:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My article did not have any references before, because honestly I did not know how to use references, but I have taught myself through the Help option of Wikipedia that how can I use references, so I have added 14 references now. Kindly check those references personally and if you find any inappropriate links then delete them because you people surely have a better understanding of references. I will be really looking forward to a reply from someone. Thanks, — SameStruggle 02:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

'We people' are the same as you: people among the many who contribute to the Wikipedia as volunteers. That said, 'we' have done what you requested and checked out all the links - somethingyou could have done yourself by comparing them with Wikipedia's criteria for WP:Reliable sources and Wikipedia's criteria for Biographies of Living people and Wikipedia's criteria for people connected with The Music Industry and other forms of The Entertainment Industry. The links to Wikipedia criteria were provided for you in the welcome message that was placed on your talk page over a year and a half ago.

Unfortunately, rather than asserting notability, the sources provided apparently suggest even more reasons why the article does not meet Wikipedia standards at least for the time being. Note that the encyclopedia also does not speculate on possible future notability.

With all due respect for the time you have spent creating the article, and without predjudice to any WP:Reliable Sources that may appear in the future, I suggest speedy deletion per WP:A7, WP:G11, and any other criteria that may apply.

http://www.pakhiphop.com/2010/10/sanki-king-explains-pakistans-graffiti.html : blog

http://www.fashioncentral.pk/blog/2012/03/02/actone-accuses-lush-productions/hazan-d-dj-hussain-asma-ansari-zain-ahmed-natasha-sanki-king/#.UAiO0XDoAlZ : online clothing and fashion accessory store

http://www.danka.pk/?var_action=event_details&event_id=15576 : a fleeting entry/advert for a talk by Sanki King; no biographical content whatsoever

http://www.pakhiphop.com/2011/02/graffiti-in-pakistan-king-by-sanki-king.html : blog. Same source web site already used

http://blog.aag.tv/blogs/2012/06/1794/ blog. Content self-authored by Sanki King

http://tribune.com.pk/story/255354/eight-teams-battle-it-out-at-pakistans-first-break-dancing-tournament/ : A reliable source but no mention whatsoiever of Sanki King

http://www.fashioncentral.pk/blog/2012/03/02/actone-accuses-lush-productions/bboy-smuffy-from-the-unknown-crew/#.UAiO9nDoAlZ : another page from the online fashion store. No mention of Sanki King

https://plus.google.com/up/start/?gpsls=circles&continue=https://plus.google.com/circles&hl=en} : a Google page. Apparently no relevance whatsoever.

http://www.issuu.com/the5thelementmag/docs/issuethree?mode=window&pageNumber=25 : No relevance whatsoever

http://www.issuu.com/the5thelementmag/docs/issuethree?mode=window&pageNumber=26 : extremely brief mention. Not entirely sure if this is even a realiable source.

http://actone.pk/ : a purely commercial site promoting a company or organiation. No mention of Sanki King

http://www.danka.pk/?var_action=event_details&event_id=15903 : An events calendar. Page has no mention of Sanki King

http://cityfm89.com/newspost/actone-planet-bboy-2012 : An events calendar. or an advert for an event. Page has no mention of Sanki King.

http://www.frequency.com/video/new-promo-of-th/33052463 : An events calendar. or an advert for an event. Apart from a promotional link to a YouTube item the page has no mention of Sanki King.

http://www.parkourgenerations.com/news/parkour-pakistan-article : No mention of Sanki King.

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man thanks for this brief reply. Now I know exactly how this references thing works. I will come back very soon with reliable and authentic sources for the Sanki King article. Thanks for your time. — SameStruggle 01:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And what about these? These 4 are authentic references, and the Gulf News story is Not a Blog. At least how many sources like these are needed to keep an article in Wikipedia? — SameStruggle 2:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Delete interviews and reheated interviews are not independent. I can't read arabic but since the rest of the refs aren't indepednent, I have reasonably strong doubts. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:17, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "delete interviews" "references aren't independent" and "reheated interviews"? And that external link is not in Arabic it's in Urdu, national language of Pakistan. And Jang News is the largest Urdu Newspaper network in Pakistan. — SameStruggle 5:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I think he means ' Delete: Interviews and reheated interviews are not independent. ' Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:20, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The story I was talking about is here, this is the cover story of Tribune Magazine, 22nd July 2012, about the rise of Hip Hop Culture in Pakistan. Includes a famous Pakistani rapper, first B-girl in Pakistan and Sanki King with pictures http://tribune.com.pk/story/409946/street-smart. I also managed to find this story from the archives of express tribune newspaper which clearly mentions Sanki and his real name http://tribune.com.pk/story/211357/cant-touch-this-step-up-to-the-streets-of-karachi

— SameStruggle 11:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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