Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SEJ

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete, votes by recently-created accounts discarded per the Deletion policy. --Tito xd^(?!?) 00:22, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

SEJ, Students for economic justice

Article about a local branch of a national organization (which itself has no article); not notable enough for a separate article. tregoweth 07:38, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I added the article with the full name. Gazpacho 08:05, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: don't deleteI added a stub page for United Students Against Sweatshops. I agree with Gazpacho's naming move from SEJ to Students_for_economic_justice. Being a major activist group at a big ten university, Students for Economic Justice is notable and worth referencing in terms of campus activist history in the midwestern US. Jimotron 3:23, 2 November 2005 (User is the main editor of Students for economic justice - — Haeleth Talk)
Comment:don't deleteI agree with Jimotron. Especially within United Students Against Sweatshops, the Michigan State chapter of Students for Economic Justice is both a well-known and well-respected grassroots organization. Many in USAS regard SEJ as one of the most creative and effective chapters. corserma 3:33, 2 November 2005 (User has only made two edits, one here and one on the page in question - — Haeleth Talk)
Comment:don't deletei agree with both above users. SEJ has received national attention from other students against sweatshops chapters as well as from many media sources for both its campaigns as well as the well known infiltration and FBI monitoring.

iammaggieryan5:20, 2 November 2005 (User has only made two edits, one here and one on the page in question - — Haeleth Talk)that is not true check my ip i have been editing pages since september and have edited a number of pages as per below.Iammaggieryan 09:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Delete. Non-notable organization, sockpuppets. Andrew pmk | Talk 22:22, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge with article on the national organization, if that's notable. — Haeleth Talk 22:42, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't Delete organization has received national media (NPR, AP) over surveillence, tactics, and contributions of members iammaggieryan22:42, 2 November 2005

strong keep the article has been significantly modified since the delete and specifically addresses the two posted reasons for deletion. The article is not, and was not intended to be, about a chapter of a national organization. Rather, this is about a major activist organization at a big ten university in Michigan. The article documents two major instances of police monitoring that made national news and thus contributed to broader discussions of civil liberties and privacy in the US. jimotron 1:42, 3 November 2005
Delete per nom. Strong delete for blatant sock puppetry. Ifnord 03:46, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- What is sock puppetry? I'm new and still reading through the rules. jimotron 3, November 2005
  - Please see Internet sock puppet. Ifnord 04:26, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Ifnord, thank you for your response and the definiton. I looked it up just before I received your message. I did not create fake accounts. Please check the IP's of corser and iammaggieryan. I asked them both for help - iammaggieryan did considerable work on United_students_against_sweatshops and corser did not have time to do many edits. We're trying to work with the moderators, so please let us know what we can do to improve the articles.jimotron, November 3
    - Or rather, excuse me, she contributed to United_Students_Against_Sweatshops. I didn't know when I went to make the SEJ page about the capitoliation guidelines, and we both worked on that page until we learned about the lowercase version of United_students_against_sweatshops. The history would be on the other page. jimotron, November 3
    - Um I am not a sock puppet, and it makes me sad to think that you think i am a sock that fits over jimotrons hands. Check my ip, i've also done changes to SEJ, USAS, policy debate, pfizer stuff, and minor changes to the (many many) grammatical mistakes contained within wiki. Like that everyone thinks the possessive form of its is it's. damn i hate that. iammaggieryan, November 3
Delete. Non-notable of course. *drew 04:57, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.