Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robin Radhakrishnan (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. I'm closing this discussion as No consensus rather doing a final relist as it feels as if the discussion has come to an end after two relistings. Opinion is divided on whether sources are adequate and that uncertainty might mean a return trip to AFD, hopefully not for at least 6 months. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Radhakrishnan

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Fails WP:NACTOR because there are no significant roles in multiple notable productions. The subject also lacks significant coverage. Apparently one of the contestant of Bigg Boss which is alone not sufficient for notability per WP:BIGBROTHER. TheWikiholic (talk) 01:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Not sure what the Big Brother notability above is, it's the project page that really only says the episodes of the shows need GNG. Regardless, about 6 pages of Times of India coverage in Gnews (iffy source), but this is a RS [1]. And the local language sources, I think we have just enough for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 01:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source 23 is a RS per CiteHighligter, it talks about his marriage and has some bio info. Oaktree b (talk) 01:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The subject has been featured in various medias and has significant coverage. The subject's appearance in Bigg Boss (Malayalam season 4) as well as in Bigg Boss (Malayalam season 5) is well known over the state and moreover It has been covered in several news media. The subject has also several stage appearances. Meets WP:SIGCOV // WP:ENT.

Seems to have significant coverage on his "scrapped off" movie with Mohanlal too, and his own movie. Rydex64 (talk) 01:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheWikiholic - WP:BIGBROTHER is a completely a different show, the project page is for Big Brother Shows. The subject is related to Big Boss Malayalam here. How is it connected to WP:BIGBROTHER and "not sufficient for notability"? Rydex64 (talk) 03:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Big Boss is just the name for the Indian franchises of Big Brother. AryKun (talk) 08:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep looks like WP:GNG OK. - Altenmann >talk 02:07, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Businesspeople, Television, Medicine, Internet, and Kerala. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I cleaned the article up a bit yesterday, and hunted around in a WP:BEFORE search to try to establish notability per WP:BIO and WP:ENTERTAINER. All I could find was routine WP:BIGBROTHER coverage of an also-ran (twice), gossip about his engagement, and self-promotion. Wikishovel (talk) 09:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikishovel - Can you please site the self-promotional links here? The subject has several media coverage as well as coverage about his performances alongside major Film Actors. He also also produced a movie "Ravanayuddham" which got significant coverage on several major sources which can be considered RS. 1, 2, 3

The major coverage is about Big Boss, and multiple achievements as well as notable works coverage. Meets WP:GNG WP:ENT.

Thanks for the cleanup on article. Rydex64 (talk) 10:12, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just to clarify, I'm not talking about self-promotional sources in the article, but about what I found during a WP:BEFORE search. Wikishovel (talk) 10:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying. I understand. I believe during the WP: BEFORE you must've came across several coverage about multiple events (Engagement, Movie, Big Boss, Awards, and other appearances) that can be considered as RS for each topic. I would appreciate if you could cross-check. The subject however meets WP:GNG and WP:ENT. Rydex64 (talk) 15:22, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I did check as I mentioned, and since the last AFD discussion in July 2022, where the consensus was for deletion, he's announced a debut film role in a film that hasn't begun principal photography, so there's no sign of him meeting WP:NACTOR yet. He also won an award from a company called "Einstein World Records", for which I can find little online, so that's not enough to bring him over the line of WP:BIO or WP:GNG yet. Wikishovel (talk) 11:20, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Regarding the movie - He had a movie announced with Mohanlal back year, seems like it's scrapped off. However, he have a movie released called "Ravanayuddham" which got significant coverage online and in local medias [2][3]. He still meets the WP:ENT and WP:GNG with significant roles in television shows and stage performances and sufficient media coverage. Rydex64 (talk) 13:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, the film hasn't begun principal photography yet, and may never be released. The film business is like that. Please see also WP:NEWSORGINDIA about the reliability of many mainstream news sources. Wikishovel (talk) 13:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and asides from the film that's not "released or starting production" yet, there is already a film released though. Moreover, we can still see the notability of the person. He is known well in local medias since that's where the subject is based. WP:NEWSORGINDIA is something I'm aware of. I noticed there are definitely articles with "gossips" "rumors" about Robin, But, I can also find lots & multiple SIGCOV about him which are actually fact and confirms the GNG and WP:ENT again. Thanks. Rydex64 (talk) 13:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article says that Ravanayuddham (written and produced by him) will be his debut film. Ravanayuddham hasn't been released yet, or even been filmed. If he's had another film role, then please add it to the article with reliable sources. Wikishovel (talk) 18:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Notable person. Did some research on online. There are multiple RS about him on notable medias too like MediaOne, Asianet and more and has significant coverage. The coverages are mostly about his appearance as contestant as well as a Guest to Big Boss Malayalam, his movies, and few of the awards. Also has appearances on TVs as well. Notable per WP: GNG Adhi2004 (talk) 10:30, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the article was created by an editor who claimed this image as their own work on the commons, and I can not find the image online (which would imply copyright infringement). This implies a close connection between the uploader and the subject. —TheWikiholic (talk) 18:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheWikiholic - Uploaded the picture myself on Wikimedia under Copyright Free material, found this picture of him on his Instagram page [4]. That picture was uploaded on Instagram by the subject itself. There is no connection or affiliation with the subject at all, writing this article as he's based in my state and has seen him on various medias as well as shows. If Instagram pictures cannot be considered copyright-free if it's a picture of subject, feel free to remove. Rydex64 (talk) 18:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've nominated it for deletion... FYI, unless you've taken the photo, you can't copy images at random. Oaktree b (talk) 13:02, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification, @Oaktree b, Appreciate that. Rydex64 (talk) 15:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 03:58, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. A source analysis of the most reliable sources would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – meets WP:ENT. Decent sources listed by Rydex64, there's a lot more online anyway. TLA^tlak 13:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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