Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pine Hollow (Oregon County, Missouri)

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The result was merge‎ to Eleven Point River. Star Mississippi 02:29, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pine Hollow (Oregon County, Missouri)

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I cannot see how this possibly meets gng. It's just a valley named after pine trees. Heyallkatehere (talk) 11:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Missouri. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If our article on the Eleven Point River were better it would let you know that this is a tributary of the Spring Creek branch of Eleven Point, and we'd be telling readers about the Ozark Land and Lumber Company, and in particular about the Cordz-Fisher Lumber and Mining Company, in relation to Eleven Point and Pine Hollow. Uncle G (talk) 15:41, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- If any of the sources are easily accessible on online, leave the links here and I would be willing to do a little expansion of the other article.James.folsom (talk) 19:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - I need to check that the sources join up. There are eleven Pine Hollow valleys in Missouri. This one is definitely the aforementioned tributary. I spent ages with the maps making sure. But further research after writing the above led me to doubt the connection from Cordz-Fischer to this Pine Hollow. The source that made the connection for me didn't mention the river system. Cordz-Fischer might be connected, per a later source that I found after looking further, to one of the Jacks Fork tributaries named Pine Hollow. Of which there are two. It doesn't help to check for a mention of Spring Creek. Missouri has 21 of those.
    Cleaning up the GNIS mess is a right pain in the arse, sometimes.
    Uncle G (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Eleven Point River. There is no mention of the this place in the local papers, and 8 articles in the state papers, but those are passing mentions without even enough detail to determine if it is the same place. I still think that if the local newspapers don't mention it then the hunt stops there, I just don't trust google for this anymore.James.folsom (talk) 19:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- This one is hard on the search engines anyway, for the aforegiven reasons. Uncle G (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- You may know better than me, but I will add that I set the Newspapers.com filter to Oregon county and no mentions popped, so I set it to all oregon and found a few, like you said other ones.James.folsom (talk) 22:17, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 14:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.