Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paxo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Disregarding the personal attacks, consensus is still that this article should be kept, though the discussion could have been better. (non-admin closure) Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:28, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paxo

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Borderline, but I don't see it meeting CORP or GNG. Boleyn (talk) 07:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Problem is its a well known product made by a major Corp. WP:Basic could cover it, as there is so much coverage, but not in depth. Also issue with sourcing is Jeremy Paxman is knick named Paxo, so news is clogged up by stories surrounding him and Boris Johnson. I would vote Keep because it is a ubiquitous product in the UK, but this does not meet wikipedia rules. User:Davidstewartharvey

Keep It's not a corporation; it's a famous brand. Deletion is not appropriate per our policies WP:ATD; WP:BEFORE; WP:NOTPAPER; WP:PRESERVE; &c. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:17, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Problem is WP:PRODUCT says When discussion of products and services would make the article unwieldy, some editorial judgment is called for. If the products and services are considered notable enough on their own, one option is to break out the discussion of them into a separate article following WP:Summary style. If the products and services are not notable enough for their own article, the discussion of them should be trimmed and summarized into a shorter format, or even cut entirely if the products are not significantly mentioned in reliable secondary sources. I have looked and none of the sources meet gng rules - I agree we should keep if ref could be found - although you could argue WP:BASIC, as there is enough coverage, but that is for notable people (although I would argue it should be for all or none). Could also argue WP:ITSACASTLE as it is a national institution.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 13:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that the nominator isn't following WP:BEFORE by considering alternatives. AfD is not cleanup. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:36, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, this appears to be a culinary(?:)) institution in the UK ie. Secrets My Mother Kept - "She would never cook the stuffing inside. We always had Paxo sage and onion and it would be...", "I have to admit that we usually cheat with the stuffing and buy Paxo as it is always tasty and simple to cook.", Ten O'Clock Horses - "Sunday. Roast chicken, peas and potatoes, roast and mash, Paxo stuffing, gravy,...", but there doesn't seem to be anything indepth out there, did the nominator consider a Merge/redirect to Premier Foods? Coolabahapple (talk) 10:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Problem merging into Premier Food is that its only one of very many products they make. They are a vast food manufacturer with a huge range of products. Bit like merging Heinz Ketchup into Heinz Kraft.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 16:24, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Products-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus on what should be done yet. One of the keep !votes is just loosely pointing at policies without explaining their relevance.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Clearly notable. Exceptionally well-known brand in the UK. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Its name is synonymous with ready-mixed stuffing in the UK. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
KeepAlthough I questioned above I now believe we should use WP:ITSACSATLE.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 08:07, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.