Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martino Traversa

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The result was keep. Kubigula (talk) 03:18, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Martino Traversa

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The subject of the article appears to be a non-notable person. The subject lacks significant coverage in reliable third party sources and fails the notability guidelines for biographies. The article has been deleted twice under A7. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 00:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Martino Traversa is a very well knowed and respected contemporary music italian composer.

He is the founder of Traiettorie music festival, one of the most important contemporary music festival in Italy. He is the president of Prometeo Foundation and Art Director of Ensemble Varese. He's professor at Univerisity of Parma, at the Faculty of Literature and Philosophy. His music is published by NEOS and Die Schachtel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martino Traversa (talk • contribs) — Martino Traversa (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Delete referenced only to two interviews, not independent verifiable sources. Nothing to verify the content, none of his music appears to be notable as far as we can tell, autobiography Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment No evidence of notability in the article. However, the Traiettorie festival does seem to be very significant and notable (try a Google search for Festival "Internazionale di Musica"), and Martino Traversa has certainly been its musical director. It therefore seems quite plausible that there may be sources showing that Traversa is notable. However, I have found only brief mentions of him in connection with the festival, and Wikipedia takes the line that notability is not inherited. That is to say that we need direct coverage of him to show that he is notable, and we cannot assume that he is because of his connection with a notable festival. I don't like this article, self-promotional as it is, and would not be upset to see it deleted, but I am willing to hold back from saying "delete" at this stage, as it may be possible to find sources which will justify keeping the article. JamesBWatson (talk) 02:04, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 15:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The founder of a very notable festival is notable; a professor in a major university is likely to be as well. Not inherited means that subsidiaries or offshoots of the festival are not notable because the main organization is, -- the word "inheritance" was a careful choice: inheritance runs downwards. In this context, if it were the case that he was known to be certainly notable, it means the festival wouldn't necessarily be notable also, because its only a part of what he did. the other way, it does imply notability It is highly reasonable for the references on a person to be about hiswork--what else would they be about that would be of any importance? DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Both refs on the article are to the same interview. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:03, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 04:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Although I am not able to fix the article myself, he seems to be the subject of lots of coverage from major sources in the Italian press - not just for the festival[1] but also as a composer. Maybe some of these references could be added to the article to make his notability clearer. I notice that he does have an article at the Italian Wikipedia. BTW it would be better if this article could be improved by independent sources, rather than by User:Martino Traversa who wrote the current article, because of the conflict of interest guidelines. --MelanieN (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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