Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films by gory death scene

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 23:59, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of films by gory death scene

Extreme, useless listcruft. This one has been around here for a while, but I cannot see a reason for its continuing. Its 50kb of largely unencyclopedic material. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. TheRingess 05:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Where else would one find a list of scenes where a character is sliced by such a sharp object, that it takes some moments for them to fall apart? - SimonP 05:43, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Split into various articles to reduce size. Royboy crashfan 05:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete gory listcruft. --InShaneee 06:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SimonP. --Ter e nc e Ong 06:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SimonP. Can be inspiring for RPG Gamemasters... Sandstein 08:00, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I'm sorry, but despite not being a general fan of the gore genre, I find this list fascinating. Let's see… what was that film where some guy got his head drilled by a flying ball? Oh, yeah — Phantasm! ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak keep~~ Yeah, it's probably listcruft, but there's no stopping that anymore. I would strongly suggest changing the title of this article, however (remove the word "gory"). --CrypticBacon 08:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Split per Royboycrash. --CrypticBacon 08:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is extremely useful for people who need this info such as film scholars and fans. The list should not be split though. -- JJay 09:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I have absolutely no interest in this stuff, but I can see how it would be very useful for people who are interested. Logophile 11:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per SimonP. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 12:34, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unverified original research in which many of the entries apparently don't meet the stated criteria for inclusion (death depicted via "special effects.") And this article includes a woefully incomplete section on "death by gunfire," which will overwhelm the article if taken seriously; a section on "death by blendering", a purely subjective category; and no section on "death by bow and arrow," which I suppose means that Native Americans can die gorily, but not cowboys. But NOR/verifiability is the central problem. Who's to say that a particular death was depicted by special effect or implied by skillful editing. And how can you verify, say, that the character in Ghoulies 2 died from having his buttocks eaten? Has anyone ever died from that? How much more of this silliness can I type with a straight face? Mock article, then delete. Monicasdude 14:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I think "special effects" requirement needs to be retained. I don't think any of us want to see any real-life beheadings or baghdad sniper videos showing up on this list. Ewlyahoocom 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Original research, as per Monicasdude. Chairman S. ^Talk 20:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It's not orignial research. Movies are soruces. And this is an impressive compliation of data. Tobyk777 00:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Not enough reason to delete it. Not original research. Aris Katsaris 00:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It isn't OR for the above reasons and in any case has a book reference which includes many of the listed movies. I wouldn't however object to the removal of the word "gory" in the title. JoshuaZ 00:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per JJay, lose the word "gory." Maybe "notable death scene" instead?
Keep. I completely disagree with everthing the nominator wrote. It is indeed encyclopedic. -- Freemarket 05:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Hopelessly broad, totally arbitrary, tenuous theme. (In fact, any one of the subsections would be hopelessly broad on its own.) This list isn't useful for navigation or organization. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: this article needs to be rethought, but I like it too much to recommend its deletion. Maybe it should just be notable death scenes in film (in which case many of the minor deaths would be removed), but I think gory deaths (or unusual ways of dying) might be interesting also. Fagstein 06:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep gory listcruft. Ewlyahoocom 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Rather off-putting but if there is some interest then so be it. Probably of interest to some film researchers or psychologists. --JuntungWu 11:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, too vague to be maintained. Pavel Vozenilek 00:27, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Heh. This is a gory delete because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. The list is also hard to verify and is potentially limitless. In other words, it is listcruft. Stifle 17:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per A Man In Black and Stifle. - Rynne 21:36, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mmmm, a tough one. I'll say keep on the basis that I will clean it up and try to define some criteria for inclusion, in addition to adding it to my watchlist. I may want to move it to a new title, too. Incidentally, I would be grateful if others could watchlist it too, to take some burden off of me- I am only human (mostly).--Sean Black ^(talk) 04:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, surprisingly useful list, despite the name. Kappa 10:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SimonP. Carlossuarez46 18:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as it is useful, especially if you are doing something on violence in films. That said, I've seen some bizarre entries in here that really do not class as gory. Some kind of objective criteria is needed. Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 12:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, move to List of films by death scene; the title is POV. -- infinity0 17:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.