Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kellogg's Nutri-Grain Ironman Series

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The result was no consensus. Daniel (talk) 13:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kellogg's Nutri-Grain Ironman Series

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Setting aside confusing lead and terrible references, I am not seeing what makes this event pass WP:GNG/WP:NEVENT/WP:NSPORT? My BEFORE only shows press-release like works and passing mentions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CommanderWaterford (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CommanderWaterford (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per reasons stated by nominator. —FORMALDUDE^(talk) 05:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Significant sporting event in Australia and New Zealand and is televised nationally. Certainly needs cleanup, but it is a notable event, with good sources available. - Bilby (talk) 23:32, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Bilby, Could you link the best sources for us here? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:12, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm not quite sure what you are looking for. I did a quick search on Google News for "Nutri-Grain Ironman" which gave over 3000 hits. This includes a large number of articles about competitors [1][2][3], but there's also articles about the impact of COVID on this year's sewries [4], broadcasting changes [5], and criticism [6]. Unfortunately, because of the Australian media scene, an awful lot is behind paywalls. :( - Bilby (talk) 03:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - Bilby, Thanks. The main problem I see with most of then is WP:SIGCOV - the event is not the main focus of the article. The exception is [7] but a short report on broadcasting change is only a start here... let's keep digging. I assume coverage by Nine Entertainment Co. is considered significant in Australia? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would be considered significant - only major sporting events can expect to be telecast on free-to-air. I'm not quite so quick to discount the intertveiews with competitors, but that said, we get a lot from Trove regarding the formation of the event and issues around the development of a rival series [8][9][10][11][12]. There's also decent coverage in Douglas Booth's "Australian Beach Cultures" (ISBN 9781136338403). I'm thinking that there is some good history that we can write about. :) - Bilby (talk) 12:36, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - Bilby's comment is correct, this is a well-known event in Australia. I'm surprised there isn't more significant coverage, the materials found by Bilby suggest there is more. Deus et lex (talk) 08:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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