Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kay Sievers

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Improve please! Can always be renominated again or PROD'd. Missvain (talk) 16:03, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kay Sievers

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Non-notable computer programmer. Article was tagged for notability in July 2017 but has not improved in 3.5 years. It has actually shrunk in length over that time. Most of the links referenced by the article pertain to technical contributions the person made around 2012-2014, and there is no indication of subsequent activity or professional growth. A web search indicates some disagreements between him and some senior Linux kernel developers in 2014/15, really only covered by Linux gossip sites and internet forums. No news after that. The person's entire claim to notability seems to be "I contributed some code changes to Linux components and Linus Torvalds got annoyed with me" which is not sufficient motivation for an encyclopedia article. Article was prodded and de-prodded in the past, hence this AfD nomination. I have no authorship or connection with the article or the person. Quack5quack (talk) 22:05, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 22:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 22:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: In addition to the other stuff, systemd is a pretty darn notable piece of software, with significant use across large numbers of Linux distros, the development of which was a significant task and remains quite notorious (I have heard a lot of arguments against it, but to say a co-creator of it is non-notable seems incorrect). jp×g 13:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The notability of systemd is not under question. The notability of the Kay Sievers article is, because it was tagged in 2017, has not improved, and is unlikely to improve: there doesn't seem to be any substantive material worth including from a web search about him. If your rationale is to include him as a systemd co-author, consider replacing the Kay Sievers article with a redirect to systemd. -- Quack5quack (talk) 19:45, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:25, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: He seems notable based on accomplishments. You have to realize that these types of people do not get much news coverage, so they should not be reviewed similar to entertainers, politicians etc, who get tons of coverage. He has enough industry coverage (peer reviewed) to justify notability and based on his accomplishments, we should keep this. Expertwikiguy (talk) 10:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:39, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This person meets WP:GNG notability by having significant coverage. MISSIONgreen=SILVER (talk) 11:46, 16 December 2020 (UTC) MISSIONgreen=SILVER[reply]

Sockblocked. Geschichte (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 16:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete: Honestly, the subjects references show no notability. Most of them are far from reliable sources, not independent and one of them is even self-published. The subject does not pass WP:ANYBIO and does not really pass WP:GNG either, as I can't find any sources on him and he himself has not gained any awards or significance. I understand that he has created significant device managers and interfaces, but unfortunately according to Wikipedias notability guidelines, he does not qualify for his own article, as a subject has to be notable for themselves and not something else. Coreykai (talk) 16:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.