Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jovan Tatović

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The result was delete. I think the realist was made in error, NFOOTY is merely a presumption of GNG. The delete votes clearly show this player does not pass GNG. Fenix down (talk) 15:58, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jovan Tatović

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Only played one game as a substitute in the Serbian SuperLiga which might seem to pass WP:NFOOTY but the possible worry of WP:GNG is there with that limited gametime. HawkAussie (talk) 12:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 12:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep passes WP:NFOOTY. I don't think game time is a worry here. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:41, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:NFOOTY. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 13:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:NFOOTY which indicates reliable sources should be available offline if not online Atlantic306 (talk) 13:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:NFOOTY.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:04, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The player appears to have made his debut aged 14 or 15 which could very well be enough for GNG if significant coverage of this event can be found in Serbian sources Seasider91 (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
...but does it meet GNG? One sub appearance four years ago is no reason to keep an article if we don't have reliable, independent, secondary sources to base an article on. I will make a search but I won't have time for a few days. Requesting this not be snow kept without consensus about GNG. – Levivich 03:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete – unsurprisingly, searching for the player with one sub appearance four years ago is turning up only a few brief mentions. [1] [2] [3] – Levivich 04:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:33, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - one appearance four-and-a-half-years ago and no career of any note since? No significant coverage in reliable sources that I can find? Failing GNG is more important than technically passing NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 09:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Article about footballer who made a single appearance in a fully-pro league, but which comprehensively fails the GNG. I've searched online Serbian-language sources and found nothing covering this footballer in depth. Online English-language sources only consist of database entries. Jogurney (talk) 15:48, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Jogurney.4meter4 (talk) 20:51, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Same situation as with Branislav Tošić, now deleted (in agreement with what Rockphed said in that AfD). In fact, he seems even less non-notable. He meets WP:NFOOTY, but does not have any in-depth sourcing that would make him go over WP:BASIC and it's just one pro appearance 4 years ago! Only passing mentions in my searches, and the sources in the article are either passing or flat out terrible (Facebook, seriously?). Jovanmilic97 (talk) 21:10, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To mention again, WP:NFOOTY is a part of WP:NATH. WP:NATH's FAQ at Wikipedia:Notability (sports)/FAQ says "The topic-specific notability guidelines described on this page do not replace the general notability guideline" and that "the article must still eventually provide sources indicating that the subject meets the general notability guideline". Enough said. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 21:12, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: An example of the NFOOTY/GNG dispute - more discussion in this particular example to consider the FAQ mentioned
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 12:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete two things: we tend to delete players who only made one appearance, especially if they substituted on, and WP:GNG isn't shown, and recently we deleted a SuperLiga player who should still be notable, but not enough sources were found to get him over the WP:GNG line in spite of his over 20 appearances. Tatović fails WP:GNG and, with our rule against single-time subs, the spirit of WP:NFOOTY. He's not that old and can still get over the WP:NFOOTY line in the future, but we can recreate if/when that happens. SportingFlyer T·C 00:51, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.