Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joshua Hagen

Joshua Hagen

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Cannot find independent WP:SIGCOV for this Canadian judoka to pass WP:NSPORT; all sources appear to be trivial mentions or non-independent bios/interviews. Being a CBC commentator on the Olympics does not on its own generate notability. If there are sources I missed in my WP:BEFORE please ping me. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, and Canada. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. The article's sources demonstrate that Hagen is both a provincial and territorial-level director and coach (currently for the province of Saskatchewan, previously for the Northwest Territories), and an official commentator for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation during the past two Olympic Games. Canada is a federal country and Hagen's roles in Saskatchewan and the NWTs are as the chief administrator of those federal units on behalf of Judo Canada, the national regulator. Accordingly, while Hagen's own sporting career does not make him notable, I think that he meets the administrative / coaching notability requirements for sport (director and head coach of two provincial or territorial programs), and he also has a public profile as the national broadcaster's (only) official judo commentator for the Olympics. CanadianJudoka (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Has a public profile as a commentator is not a criterion for notability, and there is no SNG under NSPORT either for for martial arts coaches or for provincial-level team coaches, so he will need to pass WP:GNG, which requires significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources. That's what's missing. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete My search found no evidence of him competing at a world or continental judo championship. I also didn't find significant independent coverage of him that would meet WP:GNG. Statements of him being an Olympic commentator, interviews, and coverage of events under his supervision do not show WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 15:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]