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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As a case of WP:TOOSOON., no penalty against creating an article in the future should he have a more notable career than he does right now. Liz Read! Talk! 02:11, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Georgi Dimitrov (racing driver)

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Possibly a case of Too Soon, Notability and other smaller details ConcordeAAIB (talk) 20:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. It is felt that with the removal of page Louis Sharp, and the drafting of Eduardo Coseteng, this page is very similar in terms of notability, being too soon and lacking some indep sources. There is nothing really that represents more notability than Sharp did, maybe just with a few more wins but again if we are deleting or drafting other pages that are very similar to this, I feel we should be deleting this here, for the same reason as Sharp's page. ConcordeAAIB (talk) 20:49, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Newmarket Academy pupil Georgi Dimitrov signs up to the F4 British Championship (suffolknews.co.uk) Formula Regional European Championship by Alpine, German Formula 4 and British formula 4 started the 2022 season at Spa and Donington Park | Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (fia.com) Georgi Dimitrov Statistics and Results | Motorsport Stats Georgi Dimitrov became Champion in Mini X30 class in British Karting Championship – SIN CARS Richardson Racing name talented trio for Ginetta Junior Championship programme - automobilsport.com Георги Димитров спечели четвъртата си победа за сезона на Силвърстоун | Pitlane.TV BRSCC | RICHARDSON RACING ANNOUNCE 2021 RETURN WITH GEORGI DIMITROV Probna15 (talk) 14:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Those are all, except for the penultimate one, either a) WP:ROUTINE announcements or news coverage, b) Mere passing mentions or c) Databases. They do not count towards establishing WP:SIGCOV. Many drivers have been racing internationally for more than 12 years and aren't notable—ultimately the reality is Dimitrov is a teenager whose only experience in cars is Ginetta and F4. He is not well-known in the UK and Asia and it takes a very quick google search to prove that. (Edit: I also find it hard to believe how a 17-year old has been able to race internationally for 12 years when the minimum age for competitive international karting is usually no less than 8. Something doesn't add up.) MSport1005 (talk) 22:07, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:38, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Based on the first (Suffolk News) source plus https://formulascout.com/jhrs-dimitrov-holds-off-several-drivers-for-british-f4-win-at-donington/92703 and https://formulascout.com/british-f4-race-winner-georgi-dimitrov-moves-to-jhr-developments/91426 he seems notable. I am not very familiar with Formula Scout, it looks like a motor racing news website and there are bylines, so I assume it's reliable. If it is not, you should discount my !vote CT55555 (talk) 23:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Formula Scout is reliable but it is a very niche source and its coverage of drivers is often considered WP:ROUTINE. Sometimes they publish more extensive profiles of drivers that count as WP:SIGCOV, but usually their focus is on coverage of events or just routine announcements. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 04:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To add to this, it's not just about notability, its also a case of Too soon. No one else apart from him on the F4 grid have wiki pages now, and they shouldn't unless they get into a larger series, when they are older. ConcordeAAIB (talk) 08:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. The sources I've seen above and in my own search are routine and not SIGCOV. Specifically, the first Formula Scout article is equivalent to cricket match play-by-plays: routine and often primary descriptions of a sports event as it unfolds. These do not count towards GNG. The second is essentially a refactored press release consisting of mostly quotes. More importantly, Formula Scout is not RS: there is limited info on their editing policies or their staff, but it appears to be written entirely through volunteers and specifically seeks amateur writers for this purpose. This sort of "unpaid internship" is exploitative and problematic and we really shouldn't be encouraging it. JoelleJay (talk) 23:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – Nothing to indicate notability. F4 is far, far too soon to be writing articles. 5225C (talk • contributions) 03:43, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - With Louis Sharp having been deleted, this page isn’t any different. There is not WP:SIGCOV and Dimitrov fails notability, a case of WP:TOOSOON. DRYT.Motorsport (talk) 08:14, 8 July 2022
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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