Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GHBL

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The result was delete. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 23:12, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GHBL

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Non-notable amateur sports league. Regent of the Seatopians (talk) 20:35, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There are hundreds of adult baseball leagues. This one is no more notable than the others. — X96lee15 (talk) 00:50, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — fails WP:GNG. We need a guideline for sports leagues and teams, but for now WP:GNG will have to do. Gosox⁽⁵⁵⁾₍₅₅₎ 01:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I created this page after I came across the wiki page for the NCBL which is essentially the same league as the GHBL, only the NCBL encompasses players from south eastern Ontario and the GHBL from south central Ontario (about 4 hours apart by car). The leagues are of similar size (35 teams NCBL, 27 teams GHBL) and skill level (4 Tiers NCBL, 3 Tiers GHBL). One of the GHBL Burlington teams has competed in and twice won the annual NCBL tournament. In my opinion if the NCBL has a wiki page the GHBL should have one as well. — Beerbaseman (talk) 02:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think NCBL needs to go through an AfD as well. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:50, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Note that inclusion is not an indicator of notability. The comparison that you are making is sometimes called the Pokemon test. If you can find reliable sources that show that the information about the league is verifiable and notable, I'd reverse my argument in a second.Gosox⁽⁵⁵⁾₍₅₅₎ 02:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I am new here, ok now I understand. So if I can find an independent newspaper article outlining the growth of the league, or an article about fundraising and the league's effect on the community, etc, than that infers Notability. I am not sure what else I can find, my only argument was from inclusion of the NCBL article. This is a new league so maybe it will need to sustain itself for a number of years before it gains Notability. Thanks for the comments. Beerbaseman (talk) 14:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Indeed, newspaper, magazine, etc., something edited, independent of the source (e.g., not a reprinted press release, so [1] wouldn't count), Your understanding is appreciated, saying something is "non-notable" can be confusing and offputting, but it's not personal, just about having enough reliable secondary sources to write a good article. Thanks again for understanding that! --j⚛e decker ^talk 20:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can't find any independent, secondary coverage, appears to fail the GNG.--j⚛e decker ^talk 20:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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