Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duri Kosambi, Cengkareng

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. First, it makes no difference how long this article is. We have stub articles that are just one sentence. Secondly, editors who are interested in converting this page to a Redirect can discuss this on the article talk page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Duri Kosambi, Cengkareng

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No sources, 2-sentence stub. Shows no notability. GoldRomean (talk) 16:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would PROD this but it has been PRODed before, in 2012. GoldRomean (talk) 16:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. GoldRomean (talk) 16:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep a sub-district of a sub-district, but seems to pass GNG fairly easily if not GEOLAND: [1] [2] [3] Most of the best sources appear to be in Bahasa. SportingFlyer T·C 17:45, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At this point, delete. We're working from a decided lack of information here but GMaps shows this as, apparently, a neighborhood in Jakarta. Maybe it represents some level of administration, but it's patently not a village as the word is normally used in English, and the Indonesian term {Kelurahan} doesn't automatically correspond to a notable political/geographical unit. This comes across as part of yet another database dump except that we don't even know what database was used. Yes, we can verify that it's a "thing", but until we can say something about it in its own right, I have to go with deletion. Mangoe (talk) 21:12, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that a kelurahan is an official government designation in Indonesia - who knows who’d translated it to an "administrative village", but it's a real unit with a designated office where you go to handle papers and whatnot, listed in Indonesian ID cards as its own item. Juxlos (talk) 10:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Not going to vote because I'm not familiar with how region designations work in Indonesia, but if this were to be deleted, shouldn't Kedaung Kali Angke, Cengkareng Barat and Cengkareng Timur also be deleted because they are unsourced stubs about administrative villages? C F A 💬 00:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus right now.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 22:50, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Not sure SportingFlyer's sources meet GNG, although they're enough for a couple of sentences. If this does end up on the deletion side, it would be better to redirect to List of administrative villages of Jakarta, which could then be slightly expanded to say eg. "Duri Kosambi, named in reference to a Schleichera plantation which used to exist in the area." CMD (talk) 00:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep WP:GEOLAND, and the area has clear coverage from secondary sources in Indonesian. Not a self-governing part (mostly by virtue of being in Jakarta), but it's official and it's there. Juxlos (talk) 10:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.