Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Matteson (rower)

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The result was redirect to Canada at the 1936 Summer Olympics#Rowing. Consensus is he is not notable enough for a standalone article, and this seemed to be the preferred target. Star Mississippi 23:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Matteson (rower)

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The basic reason for this is that in October of 2021 it was decided that only medalist in the Olympics are default notable for that, other people need to pass other criteria and in general meet GNG. First off the two sources here are one that is so broad and ultra-inclusive that it cannot be used to add towards notability, and another that is far as I can tell a blog. In that particular blog the one mention of this person is buried and mentions he died. Here is their earlier blurb on this person [(Charles Matteson, pictured fourth from the left, in the August 6, 1936 edition of The Calgary Herald) Charles Matteson – Member of Canada’s coxed eights squad at the 1936 Berlin Olympics We know very little of Charles “Tiny” Matteson, born June 8, 1913, who represented Canada in the coxed eights at the 1936 Berlin Games and was eliminated in the semifinals. Aside from the fact that he was a member of the Leander Boat Club of Hamilton, we have no leads on his later life or when and where he might have died.] I did the search of google, google books, google scholar, google news and google news archives and was not able to find any more information and unable to find even one source on Matteson that would lead to his passing GNG. There are several other Charles Matteson's, at least one of whom was notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:32, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Just being a member of a crew is not enough. I agree with discussion above. --Bduke (talk) 00:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to either Rowing at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's eight or Canada at the 1936 Summer Olympics#Rowing as a valid WP:ATD. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:18, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Canada at the 1936 Summer Olympics#Rowing. Olympian from 1936, which is notable. There is going to be hardly (if any) info from back then. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 06:05, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- First, Olympians are not inherently notable. Second, claiming that it's unlikely that significant coverage will ever be found is not a convincing rationale for keeping an article. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 09:13, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - I meant to say redirect, I copied over the wrong vote. It has been updated. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unable to find any significant coverage, so fails GNG. Redirecting to an event article that contains virtually no information about the subject serves no purpose; and if coverage can be found, it is unlikely that one unremarkable Olympic appearance would be his crowning achievement as a rower. A valid ATD would be merge/redirect to an appropriate list, e.g. List of Canadian rowers or List of Canadian Olympic rowers, but such no lists exist. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 09:32, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the expansion done by Wjemather. Or worst case, redirect per Joseph2302 and Sportsfan, per WP:ATD. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:28, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- To be clear (for those who cannot view it), the source I added does not contain any significant coverage - it is nothing more than a photo of the crew (with a caption which states they were from the Leander club). Exactly the same detail appears in a couple of newspapers, but it is pretty much the limit of coverage I found on Newspapers.com. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 18:20, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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