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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There was consensus that the subject passes GNG. (non-admin closure) Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Mungar

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For the last fourteen years this BLP stub has been sourced only to an unselective database. Deprodded. —S Marshall T/C 15:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. —S Marshall T/C 15:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, appears to pass GNG, see the following: Milton, Steve (January 8, 2005). "Mungar takes his place in Bonnies Hall of Fame". The Hamilton Spectator. p. SP09. (available at [1]); "Former Bonnie Mungar reflects on life in basketball". Olean Times Herald. June 25, 2019.; Butler, J. P. (May 7, 2020). "Former Bona star Mungar played with 'Worm' at Portsmouth camp". The Bradford Era.; Milton, Steve (July 10, 2015). "Shocked by Ben, and by Brazil". The Spectator.; "World-class athlete, cop speaks at Routes gala". Hamilton News. February 11, 2014.; and "Bona more capable of controlling boards with controlled Mungar". Democrat and Chronicle. December 26, 1983. p. 37 – via Newspapers.com.. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Canada. Shellwood (talk) 16:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • So, taking those sources in order:-
  1. The Olean Times Herald gives error 451: site access denied because the provider doesn't want to comply with the GDPR. This is common with US local news sources. That together with the title and name of the provider suggests that it's likely WP:MILL coverage in a local news source.
  2. The Bradford Era gives the same error and indeed refers me to exactly the same person's email address if I want to complain, so I seriously doubt if it's meaningfully different from source #1.
  3. The Hamilton Spectator, which is not the tremendously reputable source called The Spectator but some similarly-named local news source from the US, does display for me. It's WP:MILL coverage in which Mr Mungar reminisces about his sports and policing career. In the fourth paragraph from the bottom, it seems to admit that Mr Mungar never played professionally.
  4. The Hamilton News, is WP:MILL coverage in a local newspaper about a speech that Mr Mungar made at a gala in 2014.
  5. The Democrat and Chronicle, a US local newspaper, is from 26 December 1983. It describes Mr Mungar's height (apparently he's 6ft 8in) and his basketball play style; apparently his play has much improved. I see from the box at the bottom right that he was number 25 and was the highest scorer for his amateur team. No mention of ever winning anything.
To be quite frank, I'm not greatly impressed with any of that. Mr Mungar is doubtless a good sportsman and devoted servant to his community, but I've received more local newspaper coverage than he has, and I'm not notable at all.—S Marshall T/C 17:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
First off, WP:MILL is an essay and has no effect whatsoever on whether coverage is significant. The first source ("Mungar takes his place in Bonnies Hall of Fame") has 651 words on him, so definitely SIGCOV ("addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content"). The Olean article is over 1,400 words on his basketball career, so that's SIGCOV piece number two (already we have enough for GNG! Which only requires "multiple"). The Bradford Era article is over 1,000 words on him and how he was teammates with Dennis Rodman, so SIGCOV piece number three. The Spectator one is over 600 words on Mungar, so SIGCOV #4. Hamilton News is over 500 words, that means SIGCOV piece number five. And then finally there's the Democrat and Chronicle one, which is a few paragraphs on him, so probably SIGCOV. So we've got at least five pieces of significant coverage here, and GNG only requires two! BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:25, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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