Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Awa Santesson-Sey

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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 08:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Awa Santesson-Sey

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Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:NACTOR. Existence of music on iTunes is not an indicator of notability. MSJapan (talk) 05:03, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - She is amongst the three finalists. The final is next friday. This is a way too early for AfD discussion. And a indication that the nominating user is not familiar with the Swedish X Factor series. Her songs has made it into the ITune lists. This is just one of many way too hasty AfD nominations by MSJapan.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe, it's the other way around: It's too early to create the article. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:19, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. BabbaQ (talk) 12:15, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - article doesn't establish notability, the subject fails WP:BLP1E and it's WP:TOOSOON for an article. If reliable sources covers the subject music career for a long time after the show is over, I believe the article can be recreated. Mentoz86 (talk) 14:59, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure you are entitled to that opinion, but just saying that if this AfDwill follow procdure it is unlikely to be closed before friday. And Awa is a major favourite to win, and if she wins this entire AfD discussion will be irrelevant as she will have won X factor by then. A speedy keep and awaiting fridays final would have been a better option an option that could have been easily fixed had the nominator asked me or someone else with actual knowledge about X Factor Sweden before nominating this article. It is basically just a huge waist of time and effort for possibly a number of users that will be involved in this discussion. Amd sure you are of the opinion that it is too early for this article but I dont that is the basic premise for this discussion.WP:TOOSOON could apply to this AfD itself as winning a million (SEK) music contract is notability which will make this entire AfD non-valid in a week after the final if it is not closed until then.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:45, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closing admin: Awa is now the first winner of X Factor Sweden and has won a million (SEK) music contract.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - NMUSIC states, Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated they are independently notable. MSJapan (talk) 23:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Simply put it her win at X Factor gives her notability. Participation is not the same as winning an entire series. Winning a million (SEK) music contract in itself is notable and winning X Factor is relevant and notable. Most other winners has recieved success within their own country. Read paragraph 9. Has won or placed in a major music competition. and paragraph 12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.. I rest my case.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:04, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 04:33, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep or possibly Speedy Keep - in light of the fact that Awa won X Factor and a million(SEK) music contract I have changed my !vote to Strong Keep also because of the fact that she passes NMUSIC paragraphs 9. Has won or placed in a major music competition. and paragraph 12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network..BabbaQ (talk) 19:12, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
keep, winning x factor gives notability to the winners in my country the UK. 94.234.170.77 (talk) 22:27, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No seriously, an X Factor winner is deemed not notable? JASpencer (talk) 11:21, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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