Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anastomosis around the shoulder joint
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Scapular anastomosis, since the advocates of keeping have not addressed the problem of the existence of two articles about the same topic. There seems to be no compelling reason to delete the article's history; I'll watchlist the redirect to make sure that it's not undone. Deor (talk) 14:19, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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This unreferenced one-sentence has remained an orphan for 3 years. I do not expect it will undergo significant editing, because it's about a process (anastamosis) rather than a specific structure. Due to its fruitless utility, and lack of being used in the future, I am proposing deletion Tom (LT) (talk) 01:45, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:10, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:10, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep I have cited a reputable anatomical text which describes this as "an important arterial anastomosis...vital to preserving the upper limb...". Andrew (talk) 23:13, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. There's no reason to think it couldn't be developed in the future. Adequate references exist. --Sammy1339 (talk) 22:57, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as totally redundant. We already have a well-developed article on this topic, namely Scapular anastomosis (the "scapula" is the shoulder blade). There is nothing here to merge, and a redirect is pointless, since the current article title is not a likely search term. -- 120.23.241.114 (talk) 06:59, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- That other article is not well-developed. It has no references, for example, whereas the page in question does. It looks grand mainly because it has a huge navigation template and an image but the image doesn't actually seem to show any anastomosis. If we're going to merge, then we should merge that page into this one. Andrew (talk) 09:09, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- That other article cites (in the EL section) Gray's Anatomy as a reference, and the illustration does in fact show the multiple anastomoses around the scapular. I should also point out that the present article is wrong in suggesting that there is only a single anastomosis around the scapular. And, as well as being redundant and wrong, the present article has a poorly chosen title too. A merge would be a really bad idea. -- 120.23.241.114 (talk) 11:41, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- To quote Gray: "The subscapular artery (a. subscapularis) the largest branch of the axillary artery, arises at the lower border of the Subscapularis, which it follows to the inferior angle of the scapula, where it anastomoses with the lateral thoracic and intercostal arteries and with the descending branch of the transverse cervical, and ends in the neighboring muscles. About 4 cm. from its origin it gives off a branch, the scapular circumflex artery. The Scapular Circumflex Artery (a. circumflexa scapulæ; dorsalis scapulæ artery) is generally larger than the continuation of the subscapular. It curves around the axillary border of the scapula, traversing the space between the Subscapularis above, the Teres major below, and the long head of the Triceps laterally (Fig. 524); it enters the infraspinatous fossa under cover of the Teres minor, and anastomoses with the transverse scapular artery and the descending branch of the transverse cervical. In its course it gives off two branches: one (infrascapular) enters the subscapular fossa beneath the Subscapularis, which it supplies, anastomosing with the transverse scapular artery and the descending branch of the transverse cervical; the other is continued along the axillary border of the scapula, between the Teres major and minor, and at the dorsal surface of the inferior angle anastomoses with the descending branch of the transverse cervical. In addition to these, small branches are distributed to the back part of the Deltoideus and the long head of the Triceps brachii, anastomosing with an ascending branch of the a. profunda brachii. The posterior humeral circumflex artery (a. circumflexa humeri posterior; posterior circumflex artery) arises from the axillary artery at the lower border of the Subscapularis, and runs backward with the axillary nerve through the quadrangular space bounded by the Subscapularis and Teres minor above, the Teres major below, the long head of the Triceps brachii medially, and the surgical neck of the humerus laterally. It winds around the neck of the humerus and is distributed to the Deltoideus and shoulder-joint, anastomosing with the anterior humeral circumflex and profunda brachii. The anterior humeral circumflex artery (a. circumflexa humeri anterior; anterior circumflex artery), considerably smaller than the posterior, arises nearly opposite it, from the lateral side of the axillary artery. It runs horizontally, beneath the Coracobrachialis and short head of the Biceps brachii, in front of the neck of the humerus. On reaching the intertubercular sulcus, it gives off a branch which ascends in the sulcus to supply the head of the humerus and the shoulder-joint. The trunk of the vessel is then continued onward beneath the long head of the Biceps brachii and the Deltoideus, and anastomoses with the posterior humeral circumflex artery." -- 120.23.241.114 (talk) 11:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you IP 120.23, I wasn't aware of this. I withdraw this deletion request. --Tom (LT) (talk) 21:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Well, since we already have a better article with a better title, I still think deletion is the best thing to do. -- 120.23.241.114 (talk) 00:53, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you IP 120.23, I wasn't aware of this. I withdraw this deletion request. --Tom (LT) (talk) 21:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect given the existence of the article discussed above. Given that Scapular anastomosis is more accurate, more thorough, and was written earlier there is little logical reason for this article. A merge of any its information does not seem necessary, and while the title does not seem like a likely search phrase redirects are cheap and harmless so it could certainly still exist.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:54, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect. As noted above, this is a superfluous content fork of scapular anastomosis. Sandstein 16:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
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