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February 2023
Hello, I'm TheManInTheBlackHat. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, History of general-purpose CPUs, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please avoid citing Wikipedia, see WP:CIRCULAR TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 17:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Welcome!
Hi IdanST! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
The rule that affects you most as a new or IP editor is the prohibition on making any edit related to the Arab–Israel conflict unless you are logged into an account and that account is at least 30 days old and has made at least 500 edits.
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Happy editing! Selfstudier (talk) 12:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
May 2024
Hello, I'm Amigao. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Norinco, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. "Citation needed" tag added. Amigao (talk) 17:12, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, 3 sources were added. IdanST (talk) 18:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
KLM
Hey, you updated the revenue and net income in the infobox of the KLM article. Both figures might be correct for AirFranceKLM, but that article is only about KLM. So both figures are false. WikiPate (talk) 20:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please show exactly what were the figues I published that you claim were false? IdanST (talk) 19:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, sure.
- Here you claimed that the net income of KLM was €934 million in 2023.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KLM&diff=prev&oldid=1223988696
- Here you claimed that the revenue of KLM was €30 billion in 2023.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KLM&diff=prev&oldid=1223987821
- Both figures are incorrect regarding the airline KLM. WikiPate (talk) 10:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're absolutely right.
- I was wrong; it was unprofessional of me. Thanks for editing that and notifying me about the mistake. IdanST (talk) 18:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
August 2024
Hello, I'm AgisdeSparte. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Nathan Anderson, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. AgisdeSparte (talk) 13:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- You could clearly see in my edit that I left a source, yet you deleted it and falsely claimed that I "didn"t provide a source".
IdanST (talk) 19:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
If you continue to violate WP:ECR as you did here you will be blocked from editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
October 2024
If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}
. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.
Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes"). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."
- Well, you User:ScottishFinnishRadish proved again:
- You're a bully that threatens anyone that points out on lies.
- You proved what I've written: "It's shocking that senior Wikipedia editors publish LIES all the time".
- Also, you proved you decided to ban an editor while you're in a conflict of interests; one of your adminship and second because you're a bully and power hunger that can't receive criticism for your poorly judgement.
- You're a threat to Wikipedia, and also to any editor that points out on lies.
- P.S.
- I'm still waiting for you to mention exactly what WP:ECR rule I violated, although you still refuse to do so and even ban editors with no proves. IdanST (talk) 21:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is not an actionable edit request. This and this are blatant violations. With your incivility you're lucky I went with the standard one week for ECR violations. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for providing your own proves, although it took you 3 times and a ban on an editor just to provide them, very professional.
- I'll address to each one, if you may:
- 1.This one is clearly an edit request - pointing out that Maariv (newspaper) "source" is a LIE. Maariv NEVER reported on this lie, the source is in fact Al Jazeera that lied, as usual. You warned me, in fact you threatened me, for pointing out on this vicious lie that slanders Maariv, as already proved HERE. It's a blatant violation of yours, for enforcing lies and "threatens anyone that points out on lies", as I've already stated HERE, but who will punish you?
- 2. This is not an incivility, how complimenting a fellow editor is incivility?
- 3. This is indeed may considered as blatant violation, because although I warned about constant lies and edit warring the editor had done, it wasn't my role, although none of admins, including you, refused or failed to actually fulfill their duties against this ongoing propaganda being created by this editor. IdanST (talk) 12:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ignoring appeals is an act of uncivility.
- I'm still waiting ScottishFinnishRadish IdanST (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you gonna answer why you banned me while I was already banned by ScottishFinnishRadish?
- Or why you banned me while refusing or failing to provide proves?
- Also, how exactly I was supposed to appeal via Unblock Ticket Request System, if the staff replied that I'm supposed to appeal via my talk page, which you decided to revoke my access? IdanST (talk) 07:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}
. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.
- Request to know the alleged violations for which I was banned for one month, in order to file an appeal. IdanST (talk) 12:27, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]].
- I was blocked for 1 month. I was not aware of the edits on which the admin ScottishFinnishRadish based the violations leading to this block because the admin failed to inform me. However, after a couple of weeks, I recently saw a comment by the same admin stating that the edits leading to the block "were [10], [11], and [12], which are also clear ECR violations."
- I appeal on this block because I believe these were justified edits because:
- This edit: violation WP:ECR. It's clearly an edit request under WP:ECR Section A.1. - pointing out on a blatant violation of WP:NPOV. The article presents Yahya Sinwar as the political head and Mohammed Deif as the military head, but for the opposing side, only Colonels are listed. Senior military officers like Brigadier General Avi Rosenfeld, General Yaron Finkelman, and Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi , all of whom participated, were omitted. I didn’t even include the political head, Benjamin Netanyahu. The admin deleted this edit request and used it, along with two other edits, as grounds for blocking me while violating WP:NPOV and WP:ADMINACCT.
- This edit: violation WP:ECR. It's basically similiar to the first edit (request) under WP:ECR Section A.1., just in a reply in the "Talk" section, only this time I've added the political figures "defence minister Yoav Gallant and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu", in contrast with the political Hamas head Yahya Sinwar. However, I acknowledge that maybe these suggestions were not very comprehensive and clear and I'll try to improve my editing.
- This edit: violation WP:ECR. I'll explain the background. Beforehand I've left a barnstar on this user as it's allowed, and even encouraged, under WP:BARN: "Remember, any user can give out Barnstars! You do not have to be an administrator!". Then, the same admin deleted my message ("reason: WP:ECR") and included that in a previous block for 1 week. Now, the same admin deleted this message and stating, again, "reason: WP:ECR". I've read ECR rules and there is no statement forbidding users with fewer than 500 edits from leaving messages or barnstars on others’ talk pages.
- In conclusion, I strongly believe these 3 edits were justified.
- Regardless of this appeal, I want to apologize to ScottishFinnishRadish for my behavior on my own talk page. I should not have acted that way, violating WP:NPA and being unprofessional. My belief that I was wrongly blocked, combined with the admin’s failure to specify my violations, does not excuse my behavior, and for that, I apologize.
- ~~~~}} IdanST (talk) 14:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- -Reply to xDanielx comment-
- "Copied over by request. This was also appealed at AN previously. — xDanielx"
- This was not appealed at AN. What I appealed at AN was the 1-week block, which I appealed after it expired, and it had nothing to do with the current 1-month block. IdanST (talk) 08:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- -Reply to CoffeeCrumbs comment-
- "There were more violations than listed here and it'd be an enormous stretch even to describe more than maybe one or two of them as having the character of a specific edit request"
- I have replied regarding all violations that SFR stated were the cause of the 1-month block.
- "Given the appeal at AN a few days ago got no support"
- I have not appealed the 1-month block anywhere until now, at AE. IdanST (talk) 08:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes"). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."
- So instead of replying to my appeal you decided to ban me for 1 month? IdanST (talk) 18:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- BTW, your actions against me are vandalism and persecution, as shown here, here, letting that racist slur talk comment to exist, while reverting my minor edit here, all while ignoring my appeal for over a week as shown here. IdanST (talk) 18:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't appeal, you complained that the sanctions in the topic area were enforced. Your talk page access was revoked because you were not constructively using your talk page. Talk page access when blocked is primarily for appealing, not for attacking other editors or continuing to violate the extended-confirmed restriction. When your block expired you immediately resumed violating ECR, so you were blocked again. If you continue to violate ECR on your talk page or attack other editors your talk page access will be revoked again, and your block will likely become indefinite. Instructions for appealing an arbitration enforcement block are included in your block notice. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Per your emailed request I have restored your talk page access. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:42, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- BTW, your actions against me are vandalism and persecution, as shown here, here, letting that racist slur talk comment to exist, while reverting my minor edit here, all while ignoring my appeal for over a week as shown here. IdanST (talk) 18:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
IdanST (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Please copy my appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard or administrators' noticeboard. I believe my ban is unjustified for the following reasons: 1.This one is clearly an edit request under WP:ECR Section A.1. - pointing out that Maariv (newspaper) "source" is a LIE. Maariv NEVER reported on this lie, the source is in fact Al Jazeera which has been proven to have lied in this instance, as shown HERE. 2. This is not an incivility nor breaking the rules, it's allowed under WP:BARN. 3. This is a warning before taking actions, like reporting, for blatant violations of WP:POINTy and WP:WAR. I understand now that I should have reported the user instead of leaving a notice on their talk page, as it seems that discussing and warning is discouraged, and direct reporting and banning are preferred.
Decline reason:
Being appealed at AN ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- IdanST (talk) 10:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would you like to appeal at WP:AN or WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:AN IdanST (talk) 12:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- I want to clarify that I appealed the first block.
- I didn't appeal the second block yet because I am not aware of the alleged violations for which I was banned for one month. IdanST (talk) 15:03, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:AN IdanST (talk) 12:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would you like to appeal at WP:AN or WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Appeal copied to AE
Hi, just a note that I've copied your appeal above to AE. The thread is here. — xDanielx T/C\R 18:00, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks.
- I've added 2 essential clarifications here as there seems to be some confusion about my appeal. IdanST (talk) 08:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh I'm sorry, I'll strike my comment about AN. Looks like Valereee copied over your replies already. — xDanielx T/C\R 15:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hm the AN thread does say "One month block" for the sanction being appealed (though I realize it's not your writing), so I'm a little confused. — xDanielx T/C\R 15:29, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I appealed the 1-week block, but somehow all involved and uninvolved editors misunderstood and opposed my appeal based on their confusion, although I've stated in my 1-week block appeal:
- Now, in my current 1-month block appeal, almost all editors are confused again and believe I am appealing a second time, thus opposing my appeal, even though this is the first and only time I am appealing the 1-month block.
- It saddens me that both my blocks and appeal rejections are based on a misunderstanding. At this point, I don’t understand whether the issue lies with me or with certain editors. IdanST (talk) 15:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. — xDanielx T/C\R 17:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Your appeal at AE is declined. Once your block has expired you are welcome to make constructive contributions. Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifiyng.
- I wasn’t expecting a different outcome, considering that most of the editors opposed based on the mistaken belief that I had appealed the 1-month block again. IdanST (talk) 08:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Your appeal at AE is declined. Once your block has expired you are welcome to make constructive contributions. Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. — xDanielx T/C\R 17:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hm the AN thread does say "One month block" for the sanction being appealed (though I realize it's not your writing), so I'm a little confused. — xDanielx T/C\R 15:29, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh I'm sorry, I'll strike my comment about AN. Looks like Valereee copied over your replies already. — xDanielx T/C\R 15:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Request for arbitration declined
Hello IdantST. As explained by arbitrators in this request for clarification, an editor must be extended confirmed to file accusations of misconduct within an extended confirmed restriction topic area. As such, I have removed your request for arbitration, which was about another editor's conduct regarding the Palestine-Israel topic area. Also note that an arbitration case request is a last resort for use only after other dispute resolution processes have failed. For more information, you can see this guide of arbitration. If you have any questions, feel free to reply here. SilverLocust 💬 21:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey,
- I'm sorry, I didn't know that I must be extended confirmed for reporting.
- Thanks for notifiyng. IdanST (talk) 07:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please ask to add that condition to guide of arbitration?
- I wasn't aware of it, thus I'm sure many non-EC filers had filed complaints, and future complaints, are not aware of it. IdanST (talk) 07:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey SilverLocust,
- Can I report here? IdanST (talk) 08:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, as explained in the clarification request I linked above, only an extended-confirmed user may initiate an enforcement request alleging misconduct within an extended confirmed restriction topic area. The relevant language of WP:ARBECR is:
The Committee may apply the "extended confirmed restriction" to specified topic areas. When such a restriction is in effect in a topic area, only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area, subject to the following provisions:
- A. The restriction applies to all edits and pages related to the topic area, broadly construed, with the following exceptions:
- Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive. Should disruption occur on "Talk:" pages, administrators may take enforcement actions described in "B" or "C" below.
- A. The restriction applies to all edits and pages related to the topic area, broadly construed, with the following exceptions:
- (emphasis added). There is not an additional exception for filing enforcement requests against others. SilverLocust 💬 09:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, as explained in the clarification request I linked above, only an extended-confirmed user may initiate an enforcement request alleging misconduct within an extended confirmed restriction topic area. The relevant language of WP:ARBECR is:
- Hey SilverLocust,
- Thanks for the reply. Your attention and constructive attitude are very helpful.
- I understand, have a wonderful day. IdanST (talk) 11:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Removal of permission
Hello, this is to let you know that I have removed your extended confirmed permission because it appears that you have gamed the system in order to access articles covered by WP:PIA. Your 151 talk space "Dead Reference Links" edits immediately prior to reaching 500 edits and moving over to edit Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip and 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel are indicative of a concerted effort to game the system. Please work constructively in other parts of the encyclopaedia and demonstrate an ability to competently edit in main space, prior to making a request for extended confirmed at WP:PERM. Thank you, Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you believe I tried to "game the system".
- I've spent many hours checking hundreds of references, and I have 11 more articles on my To-Do list to review. However, if you are so determined, I'll stop reviewing references, even though that encourage to go against Wikipedia's core principles.
- My edits are made in good faith, well-explained, and written from a neutral point of view. IdanST (talk) 16:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement topic ban
The following topic ban now applies to you:
You are indefinitely topic banned from the Arab/Israel conflict, broadly construed.
You have been sanctioned for WP:ECR violation after blocks with the creation of Rapid Response Unit (Israel), gaming permissions, NPOV issues (MOS:TERRORIST)
This topic ban is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. Please read WP:TBAN to understand what a topic ban is. If you do not comply with this topic ban, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything above is unclear to you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I had my ECR pulled only 2 hours ago and I didn't edit it after it was pulled.
- Pickersgill-Cunliffe do you support this? IdanST (talk) 18:35, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- You created the article before you had 500 edits. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, so I didn't understand your meaning. The topic ban is for creating it, regardless of my ECR pull, if I understand it right.
- Regardless, was deleting a well RS article with over 30,000 letters was the right act?
- That is just the English version of its origin?
- Instead of just resricting it for ECR? IdanST (talk) 18:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- The topic ban is for creating the article in violation of ECR, violating NPOV in the article, gaming the EC permission in order to edit in the topic area. The AE report was also tendentious. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Saying I violated Wikipedia:NPOV is a blatant lie; I didn't add a single POV, it's a pure translation of its origin, and you can check a word by word.
- Also, I wasn't "gaming the EC", I reviewed over 400 RS, and found out over 70 dead RS links. Saying reviewing RS and pointing out on the dead ones is a bad thing is basically against the very definition of Wikipedia.
- I even have a to-do list of reviewing another 11 articles, but because it seems to be so bad that it's forbidden to do so I have no option to review them. IdanST (talk) 20:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also, the speedy deletion is not supported by G5 because it was created and edited while I was neither TBAN nor blocked in anyway.
- I strongly believe you have made a poor judgment here. Instead of taking this one-sided, rushed action, which goes against Wikipedia's rules, you should have created a report on me so you'd know you are wrong here, for both TBAN, but especially for the speedy deletion.
- The topic ban is for creating the article in violation of ECR, violating NPOV in the article, gaming the EC permission in order to edit in the topic area. The AE report was also tendentious. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- You created the article before you had 500 edits. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Regardless, you're a very active admin and I respect that. We are all humans. IdanST (talk) 20:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- WP:CSD#G5 specifically allows
For general sanctions, the page must have been created in violation of creation restrictions, such as the extended confirmed restriction, and the remedies must specifically permit deletion as an enforcement measure.
As such, ECR violations can be deleted under G5. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- WP:CSD#G5 specifically allows
- Regardless, you're a very active admin and I respect that. We are all humans. IdanST (talk) 20:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)