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Your GA nomination of 1901 Boston Marathon

The article 1901 Boston Marathon you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:1901 Boston Marathon for comments about the article, and Talk:1901 Boston Marathon/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 22:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to add my congratulations, and to encourage you to think about doing some GA reviews -- we are always short of reviewers, and you're an experienced editor and a good writer. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arild Busterud

Thank you for fixing Arild Busterud a month ago. This is exactly the kind of procedure I wish other editors would follow--one I believe WP:BEFORE calls for. When you see a problem in an article . . . fix it.

Well instead, many people start a PROD which turns into a NOM for deletion quite easily. I've never done it but it must take some time to set up a full AFD and (lie) state there are no sources. Not one of the people now looking at the article will spend 10 seconds with google to find a solution, but many will spend much longer concurring with the move to delete. If someone like me doesn't notice it and take aggressive action, the article will get deleted, knowledge will be lost and a red mark effectively salts that decision into our history.

I really can't watch all of the articles I do watch. Frankly, I've stopped spending every evening chasing this stuff. As you can see, I didn't notice a message on my talk page for a month. So I want to profusely thank you for doing the right thing, and having the clout and balls to remove an unnecessary PROD. I wish there were more people doing what you did.Trackinfo (talk) 16:11, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Trackinfo, thank you for the compliment, I've thought for a while how best to respond to this. I think you are a great contributor and I greatly respect you. At the same time, I think it's important to uplift and not put other people down or say things about their intentions even if not by name. Rather than discussing behavior you don't like, I think it's more productive to set an example and do the type of editing you prefer. I hope you understand.

If a page has the {{WP Athletics}} template on its talk page, all AfDs and PRODs related to it will be tracked in one convenient place at WP:WikiProject Athletics/Article alerts. Unfortunately not all athletics-related pages have that template right now (I'd estimate about half do), but the good news is there is an automated way to fix that (details here) I plan on implementing soon. Thanks for your contributions, --Habst (talk) 14:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the compliments. I do try to follow what I preach in my own editing, but that is silent, unnoticeable because it just happens in the course of editing. However I feel like a one armed paperhanger playing whack a mole defense against a deluge of clueless deletionists who seem to want to remove content for no other purpose than to get their jollies off. That was why I went out of my way to compliment you. You doing right is also not noticed or appreciated, except by me. If those deletionists would simply follow procedures, we wouldn't have the problem, AfD wouldn't be so massive everyday. It would be a simple concept of AGF in someone else's creation of an article to begin with. If you question it, LOOK IT UP first. I wish we could do this nicely, but I think we need a bigger stick. People making X number of unfounded AfDs or prods in that direction, should be blocked from being able to make more. People making an excessive number should get limited. These "discussions" get noticed by such small number of people, far fewer who are qualified to discuss a subject, deleting massive amounts of content can be at the opinion of as few as three people. Even worse CfD's almost always are.Trackinfo (talk) 17:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol September 2024 Backlog drive

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US NC Templates

You made several edits in these templates. I am going to review these edits but I can see several that need to be reverted. For example you inserted Doris Brown Heritage in place of Doris Brown. That was not her name in most of her competitive career, she didn't marry Ralph Heritage until after winning most of those championships. Heritage was not published in those results. Also you eliminated lower placing American Champions. In the days when international athletes were allowed to enter the US Championships, they could be called champions but the true American champion was the first US citizen. Those names are still relevant. Trackinfo (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Trackinfo, thanks for reaching out. I wrote a script (User:Habst/getWikiWinners.js) to automatically generate these types of templates based on reading the historical results from Wikipedia, and I created a page List of USA Indoor Track and Field Championships winners to keep track and create the missing ones. We of course need for it to be correct, though, so open to feedback like this.

Re: Doris Brown Heritage -- Done. I think that if she is most known by a different name, then her Wikipedia page should be moved to that name per WP:COMMONNAME. The script always links to the Wikipedia name for the person, and the policy WP:NAVNOREDIRECT says that redirects shouldn't be used in navboxes. That being said we can get around this by using a piped link, so I did that as a temporary fix.
Listing top US finishers -- Should already be Done. The script automatically can detect if the winner is a foreign guest and will keep going down the results until it finds the top American in each event, so this should already be done. In that case both the winner and American champion should be listed along with the top U.S. athlete's place. Are there any cases you found where this wasn't performed correctly?

P.S. The days in which international athletes were allowed to enter U.S. champs actually never ended. As recently as the 2024 United States Olympic trials (track and field), Lindon Victor was allowed to compete as a guest in the decathlon. They did it so that the meet was "international" and could be listed on the 2024 World Athletics Combined Events Tour and would provide extra ranking points so that it would be more likely the top 3 U.S. finishers would qualify.

Thanks, --Habst (talk) 20:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Heritage. This is a timing issue, sometimes a billing issue with married women. Sydney McLaughlin, Marie-Josée Ta Lou, Chase Ealey, all can take a new name and format it the way they wish, change the master name of the article so it links, but that doesn't change the name they competed under before the change. Trackinfo (talk) 04:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Victor Yes, a lot of these guys know each other and communicate. I know Victor, note who took his picture. He trains here. He likes to drop into competitions to work on a few events, he didn't take it seriously. He couldn't qualify for the Olympics from it. A few decades ago, these hot shots would come to the USA to run against and beat the Americans on their home soil. Eventually that is why they were no longer allowed in, taking lanes away from Americans. Trackinfo (talk) 05:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" GA Editathon – October 2024

Hello Habst:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Flag IOC athlete non-Olympic

Template:Flag IOC athlete non-Olympic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Ahecht (TALK
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Road races map

Could you help me with adding two missing Platinum label races (London Marathon and Amsterdam Marathon) to the world map in 2024 World Athletics Label Road Races? I am not entirely sure how it was set up (perhaps the different colors could be briefly explained in the map caption?). – Editør (talk) 12:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Editør, thanks, I set it up by first creating the table on the page using User:Habst/getWaTour.js, then after I double checked that everything in the "Venue" column was a blue link, I used User:Habst/mapLocations.js to create the map. The 3 different colors are for gold, platinum, or platinum gold (e.g. for two different races that are held in the same city).

I added London and Amsterdam with these edits. --Habst (talk) 12:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding the markers and explaining the colors. – Editør (talk) 12:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of South American Youth Championships for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article South American Youth Championships is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South American Youth Championships until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 18:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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