User talk:Florence.Wong

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Speedy deletion nomination of Asian Tigers Mobility Group

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A tag has been placed on Asian Tigers Mobility Group, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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September 2017

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose.

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Alex Shih ^Talk 04:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Florence.Wong (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Our team is going to re-write the article. Some hard information(Fact, does not include any promotion) has not been uploaded to the previous page. We have deleted some wordings like which countries we have provided services. Unfortunately, it has been blocked. We will re-write again. Florence.Wong (talk) 04:11, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This unblock request does not demonstrate any understanding of WP:COI and WP:PAID. Your next request must state the specific actions you plan to take in order to adhere to those important policies. Additionally, we don't permit shared accounts. Yamla (talk) 11:56, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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It is said that it contains some wordings which regard as advertising. We are going to re-write the article and re-publish again. We get some information did not upload to the WIKI such as the Associations, Certification, etc. Could you please unlock my account?All work is done by ourselves. We did not pay anyone to help us write the article. We are re-writing the wordings which will be followed the guidance to write the article.Florence.Wong (talk) 07:10, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is a misunderstanding. Previously, I mentioned my team is going to re-write the article...etc. What I mean is that I will discuss the content with my colleagues and see what content is appropriate to be uploaded. That does not mean we hire anyone to write the article. It does not involve any conflicts of interests. When the message mentioned it seems to be an advertising-only account. I have checked and edit the words immediately. Unfortunately, I have already been blocked during the process. I thought those wordings for my article are neutral enough to be published. I promise I will pay more attention on the wordings in order to produce an informative article and mind the wordings. Florence.Wong (talk) 01:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, can you disclose if are you affiliated in any way with the Asian Tigers Mobility Group?--SamHolt6 (talk) 01:47, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You may take Santa Fe Group and Crown Worldwide Group as a reference. They are relocation company, which have many offices around the world. Their Wikipedia page used "Group" as the name instead of the company name for the page. They provide information of their company. Florence.Wong (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I may ask in this way, I thought my article used neutral wordings. Could you please advise me which part seems to be an advertising part? My context was similar to Santa Fe Group and Crown Worldwide Group. I have no idea which part is advertising. According to your advice, I can have a better idea to write a more informative article. Maybe you questioned the reason why there is so little information for my published article, as I am still developing the content day by day. Once I finished, I will edit it.Florence.Wong (talk) 07:55, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@SamHolt6:Excuse me, may I know the status of the above-mentioned problems?Florence.Wong (talk) 09:05, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Alex Shih:Florence.Wong (talk) 02:18, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Florence.Wong (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Since Santa Fe Group and Crown Worldwide Group are similar industry of Asian Tigers Mobility Group, I have take their page as reference for what to put eg. Company review, History, Certificate...etc. I thought the wordings are neutral enough to present the company information. All those are the facts eg. when established, how many offices...etc. Or, can you please point out which parts contains advertising? I will edit it again according to your guidance.

Decline reason:

You were asked by SamHolt6 (above, on this page) to disclose if [you] are you affiliated in any way with the Asian Tigers Mobility Group. That was 20 days ago, yet you didn't answer. I guess that means that you are connected but you refuse to WP:disclose your connection. That means that you have what we call WP:COI regarding that company. What you constantly fail to understand is that writing about your company is inherently non-neutral. That is why COI editing is strongly discouraged in Wikipedia. You keep saying that "your wording is neutral". That's not the issue here. You will not be unblocked to continue writing about your company. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:07, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Florence.Wong (talk) 02:22, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I very strongly suggest taking down this unblock request. You were told your next unblock request had to state what specific actions you plan to take in order to adhere to WP:COI and WP:PAID, but this unblock request does not do so. You risk losing access to this talk page. --Yamla (talk) 13:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since there are counterfeit companies in China copying the business of Asian Tigers Mobility, there is a need to show the real fact of this business. Asian Tigers group established in 1998. We didn’t set-up our Wikipedia account. Until recently, we found that there are some fake Asian Tigers on the internet. They are using our brand to do business. The problem becomes more and more serious. In order to protect our customers, we would like to register us in Wikipedia which we believe it is a reliable and trusted website. We appreciate if you can allow us to publish our information. I understand your concern of self-promotion, can you please give us some guidance to avoid it. Besides, our existing content does follow some of our partners they been have allowed publishing their content in Wiki.

From your message, “I guess that means that you are connected but you refuse to WP:disclose your connection. That means that you have what we call WP:COI regarding that company.” I would like to know who can help to write in the Wikipedia if I want to have the information Asian Tigers Mobility Group? Does it mean that I can find someone who does not connect with the business to write about it? I wonder how the unrelated parties know about the business nature of that company. Let’s take Santa Fe Group and Crown Worldwide Group as examples (They are in the same industries as Asian Tigers Mobility), what they have written are about their business. Why can they write in that way? But I cannot write about Asian Tigers Mobility. I would like to know does it mean that I can pay for someone (From Wikipedia) to write about Asian Tigers Mobility? If not, who can help to write? (It is said that people connected to the company cannot write as there is a conflict of interest.) Florence.Wong (talk) 01:25, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You were told to read WP:COI and WP:PAID, but have obviously not bothered to do so. As such, I have revoked your access to this talk page. This leaves you with WP:UTRS, but I very, very strongly suggest you don't bother them until you have read and understood these policies. --Yamla (talk) 11:30, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have now revoked email access. You've been told how to move forward. Your complete unwillingness to read what you've been told is concerning and strongly advocates against unblocking you at this time. --Yamla (talk) 11:33, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. SamHolt6 (talk) 04:42, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]