User talk:Closedmouth/Archive 8

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SYL edits

Can you please slow down, or at least mark these as minor? My entire watchlist is clogged up with these edits tonight, to the point where it's nearly unreadable. They're just not that important. Rebecca (talk) 09:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't think I was doing it very fast at all. I will mark them as minor from now on. It would be nice if you could filter a certain editor's edits from your watchlist. --Closedmouth (talk) 12:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Swiss towns

My intent was not to suggest that these places are not notable, but rather that they seem to have insufficient content as is to merit an individual page for each village. I would then propose two possible solutions: either list all of these small towns on the larger Val Poschiavo page (with redirects on their original pages), or expand them to the point that they function well as stand-alone pages. Please feel free to let me know if either of these options work for you; I would be happy to carry out the first, and the original creator may be able to carry out the second. Thanks. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright then, I can appreciate that argument. Feel free to expand them as you see fit. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:44, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

The Poschiavo article prods

Hi! I have created all the articles that was proded. The summer 2009 i am going to be there in 2 weeks so when i am coming home i can add pictures and a lot more of information. The Rolling Camel (talk) 11:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I have also myself deleted Levjstrimo per CSD G7 Author because i know there is no sources. And its not a town really. It is just 4 small houses. The Rolling Camel (talk) 11:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Haha, and i am still a kid as you can see on my user page. The Rolling Camel (talk) 18:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Belmont Soccer Club

An article that you have been involved in editing, Belmont Soccer Club, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belmont Soccer Club. Thank you. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Flickr help

Hello Closedmouth, I noticed you had an account at Flickr. Is there any chance you could help me. Would it be possible if you could contact the owners of the following images and ask them if they are prepared to have their work used in Wikipedia. I work on articles relating to Michael Jackson, being the reclusive figure he is, images are very hard to come by and the article isn't exactly attractive. Any help you could offer would be highly appreciated, seriously like a million barnstars your way fantastic. Anyway, these are the images I'm interested in...

1
2
3
4
5

If any of these people are not the copyright owners of the images then obviously don't worry about them. I really hope we have some success with this, it's a shame that a featured article on such a public figure is so bland in appearance. — Realist² 23:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. --Closedmouth (talk) 06:49, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay I've made the initial contacts, give it a few days or weeks and we'll see how it turns out. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

First success: Image:Michael Jackson's "Bad" Jacket and Belt.jpg --Closedmouth (talk) 09:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Yay, one down four to go. Thank you, thank you! — Realist² 11:17, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Almost got this one. Hopefully he'll remove the non-commercial caveat. --Closedmouth (talk) 04:19, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'm watching your page so I'll get all the latest updates. — Realist² 12:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Ugh, he doesn't seem to have noticed my latest comment. I'll step up to private messages over the next couple of days. --Closedmouth (talk) 16:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, appreciated. — Realist² 17:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I find it odd that he responded so quickly to the first comment, but seems to have completely ignored the second. Oh well, I'll try a little harder this time. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Pinged them all via "FlickrMail", hopefully they'll notice that and also not tell me to fuck off. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Yay, two down, page sure you cross it off! I love the golden look :-) — Realist² 14:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Currently negotiating with the guy who did the aerial shot of Neverland Ranch. Unfortunately he wants to retain the copyright and have the image appear on Wikipedia. Which is understandable. But not very helpful :-/ --Closedmouth (talk) 12:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Darn it, you should tell him about how much good such an image would do. Michael Jackson gets thousands of hits a day. His work would be viewable to a greater audience. I hope he comes around. — Realist² 14:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Good idea, I'll mention that in my next message. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

No dice. He doesn't want to allow the shot to be used in commercial works. So close. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Darn, only 2 images left :-/ — Realist² 13:49, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Update to keep this from being archived: nothing. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

If we aren't having any luck, feel free to let this archive. At least we got one picture. Thank you for all your efforts. — Realist² 12:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

		King of Pop Award — For your contributions to the Michael Jackson WikiProject
		The Wikiproject would like to thank you for getting an extra picture on the Michael Jackson article and doing your utmost to find more, albeit unsuccessfully. You have been helpful. — Realist² 12:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Ooh aah, sexy. Almost makes up for the frustration of being totally rejected. Thanks man :D --Closedmouth (talk) 12:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I couldn't decide on the star or the statue, eventually I came back to the star. If only they did the statue in gold, that would be really good for awards lol. — Realist² 13:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Martinez Beaver Monster

I saw that you removed the delete request from the article. How come? As indicted in the talk page, the article was a hoax and was not supported by a Contra Costa Times article, but only in a vanity webpage created for the article. What did you see that I did not? ttonyb1 (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

It was a contested prod. --Closedmouth (talk) 01:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Lam Mus

Hiya. Originally I changed the stub from the Giant star sub to Main sequence as some of the later catalogue entries have changed its typing, which is what I'm going to be using since it happens to be more recent. I removed the stub since the article is under continual expansion. I should have it looking in the style of Delta Muscae in under 24 hours. As for the category, it isn't an A-class giant star (anymore, according to the same more recent data). I hadn't found the name of the correct category to put it under yet. SkarmCA (talk) 03:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

In addition- apparently the original page with the list of stars in Musca was wrong, and it is a giant star afterall. My apologies then. Anyway, the article has been expanded past stub status this evening. SkarmCA (talk) 04:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

		Merry Christmas!
		Christmas medley A chiptune medley to annoy Ironholds :D Problems playing this file? See media help. Closedmouth, here's hoping you're having a wonderful Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho^(talk) 00:01, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

>:( --Closedmouth (talk) 00:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

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You've been nominated for deletion, just to let you know. Regards, — neuro^(talk) 00:59, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry to FT2 too —Preceding unsigned comment added by FT3 (talk • contribs) 10:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Meh, whoever's sock this is, you should know better. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Madagascan (sic) Mantella

Hi - I wanted to redirected the Madagascan Mantella article to a new Malagasy Mantella article but yeah, I got lazy and just corrected the original page. "Madagascan" is incorrect in English, although within the last 4 years it has gained popularity, probably because most people didn't know the correct adjective for Madagascar: "Malagasy". 25 12 2008 - Patrick (Merry xmas!) 10:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.158.67.45 (talk)

Urgh, I apologise for reverting you (it looked like you were just changing random words); a large scale change such as that would probably require some coordination; there's hundreds of articles that would need to be moved and fixed and all that stuff. I'm not much good at that, you might need to make a proposal on a talk page somewhere so people who are good at that stuff can debate it. I dunno. --Closedmouth (talk) 11:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Question

Could you close your mouth around my cock? 58.174.227.154 (talk) 11:10, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure baby, where would you like to meet? --Closedmouth (talk) 11:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Article title change

Hey Closedmouth, thanks for the help on Scott O'Donell and no worries about the miscommunication. I was just curious, though -- how do you in fact change the title of the article? Just curious and thanks again for your assistance. 64.75.245.198 (talk) 20:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my talk and user pages. You reverted him before I could tell him I wasn't Indian ;D This guy has been bugging La Pianista and me for a while now (uses a dynamic IP, unfortunately). He Haggered our pages, and doesn't seem to like the fact that we took it as a joke. Chamal ^talk 13:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Heheh, a vandal with a sense of humour is a rare beast indeed. You're welcome. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

cool dude thanks for the spammage!!! N0G0DSN0ADMNS (talk) 22:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Dune Skateboards ‎ Prod

You removed the prod from Dune Skateboards with the edit summary "prod is contested, please take it to afd instead if you wish to have it deleted"? Are you contesting the prod - in which case for what reason, or claiming that the previous, vandal, removal of the prod notice was contesting it - in which case please examine that editor's other contributions, and block, and restore the prod. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 15:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay that does seem odd. In the context of the article it seems fine, but that IP seems to have been running some odd script, I dunno, I'll leave it. Apologies. --Closedmouth (talk) 04:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Bulgarians in Turkey

Hello vikipedist.Turks in Bulgaria or Bulgarian Turks aren't Bulgarians.Theyre Turk.Turkey has got an important Bulgarian population their name is Pomaks.And they're full İslam.Please read carefully links.Turks arent Bulgar !!! Turks in Bulgaria —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.184.224.126 (talk) 08:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that was a mistake, sorry. I thought you were replacing the infobox with the United States infobox. Yes, I am an idiot. --Closedmouth (talk) 08:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!

Hey there, Closedmouth! Happy new Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)

Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh.

Best wishes, neuro^(talk) 00:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

What can I say, I'm not perfect. Goddamn you putting that image here, on your editnotice and on my talk. You sir, are an ass. — neuro^(talk) 11:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy new year to you! Shiva (Visnu) 18:33, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Attack site

The IP 87.236.136.18 whom you have warned against further vandalism had added this attack site back in August. 1.--Xenovatis (talk) 11:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that was me. Feel free to remove any inappropriate external links. --Closedmouth (talk) 12:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I never suggested it was you, I am sorry if it sounded that way! I meant the IP, whom you have warned against vandalism, this being the reason I found myself at your page. It has allready been remvoed of course. --Xenovatis (talk) 12:14, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh, no, I meant I don't think it was me who reverted the link being added. But it seems you knew that. Thanks for the update. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

WTF

Do you know anything about this? — Realist² 23:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Am I good or am I good? :D --Closedmouth (talk) 02:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

;D, omg that Jimbo face freaks me out lol. Cheers once again. — Realist² 02:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

AWB script

Thanks for your comments at my talk page. I don't know if you are aware but I have changed the way of working with AWB scripts. Previously, each AWB script was individually designed and had its own chaotic code update path. It was hard for me to keep track of which code feature had been updated in which script. I now use the monobook script as a master and translate them into AWB-script as children:

Now the code update path is more rational. It is more work and can lead to delays before an update reaches any particular child but it is a definite improvement. I no longer maintain the other scripts. I thought I would let you know. Lightmouse (talk) 13:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I don't mind the extra wait, as this method makes more sense, and I'm sure would be much easier to keep track of. And don't strain yourself! We're not that important :P --Closedmouth (talk) 13:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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I request to delete the article immediately

This article has a no sense because it's a hoax and should be deleted very immediately. Someone hacked my username. I don't know how. I just come to see that article and accidentally, I saw my own username. I did not do it. I have not seen any Macy Garcia on TV or StarStruck and no articles about her on news sites except for those whose source is wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GMA Divo (talk • contribs) 07:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

list

Those articles are the hoaxes that made by my hacker.--GMA Divo (talk) 08:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Ta. --Closedmouth (talk) 08:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

re: John Whittle

Thanks okay, mate. Mistakes are bound to happen every now and then, especially when giving the quick once over with AWB. Thanks for fixing up the other problems though. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 04:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Prod for List of sovereign states in 240 BC.

Hi Closedmouth.

I noticed (don't ask ;D) you put a prod on List of sovereign states in 240 BC, and I wonder: doesn't List of state leaders in 240 BC fall into the same category? (I'd be bold an' all, but I'm a bit careful about that for stuff like prods). --Xover (talk) 10:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I thought I replied to this. I was gonna say take it to AFD just in case, but really, it's an almost completely pointless list, with very little room for expansion, so I'd say go ahead and PROD it. If someone thinks they can turn it into something...well, decent, they can contest it. --Closedmouth (talk) 08:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, prod'ed. --Xover (talk) 15:29, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Dweller/me me me me me

But my name doesn't begin with "Kat"!!!! --Dweller (talk) 10:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you making fun of me??? D: --Closedmouth (talk) 10:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

More curious how on earth you spotted that?! --Dweller (talk) 12:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

#cvn-wp-en throws up some very weird things. Sometimes I just sit there and stare at it in wonder. I think it flagged your creation because it repeated the word "me" so many times and I just happened to be staring at the channel when it popped up. I couldn't not click something like that. --Closedmouth (talk) 12:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol. --Dweller (talk) 12:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

You, too have a stalker

You reverted all of the stalker 81.184.65.251 (talk · contribs)'s reversions of Tennis expert; but then his friend 81.184.71.245 (talk · contribs) appeared and over a period of three minutes reverted all your changes. I have in turn reverted him and given him a uw-4im; now I wait to see who pops up and starts stalking me. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what's going on here - the note above has been twice deleted, by 62.57.213.69 (talk · contribs) and 62.57.8.119 (talk · contribs). There seems to be some sort of campaign going on. Do I detect a sock drawer? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, what a nightmare. Whoever's doing this needs to grow up. --Closedmouth (talk) 02:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

These are all IP sockpuppets of the blocked user Kolzor. Tennis expert (talk) 05:14, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

No sweat

That Jimbo head just scared the bejeebus out of me, by the way.

I'll restore it right away. I was going through the contribs of the original poster and I deleted it based on his too-short contribs. Gotta get me that head on my page. Can you e-mail me the html for it? --PMDrive1061 (talk) 09:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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diff I don't know the details, but you might want to reformat list of broken redirects so people don't ignore the ones they expect to be done automatically. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry case concerning Korlzor

You have been helping fight vandalism inflicted by various IP sockpuppets of the blocked User:Korlzor. You may be interested in a sockpuppetry case I have opened here. Best regards. Tennis expert (talk) 10:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, seems a fairly straightforward case, I prophecy several blocks in the future. --Closedmouth (talk) 12:37, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thank you for helping to protect my user page from vandalism. Also, on a side note, that Jimmy Wales head just scared the living hell out of me. It's late and I am starting to loose touch with reality. I thought I had drifted asleep while editing Wikipedia! A slice of cake goes to you. =] GLaDOS (talk) 07:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ahaahaha, I am never getting rid of that now. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

John Astley (painter)

Hi

Hope you won't be offended, but as you are offline, I have removed the header from the page

I trust that it meets the stub requirements and as such have included these for biographies and history of Greater Manchester

Thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 22:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem, I only put it there so you could get the article written without someone deleting it for not having enough content. You don't need my permission for anything :) --Closedmouth (talk) 04:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but imagine my surprise when I realised I had forgotten about the page and got bogged down with other edits, and, on going to it found that first act of kindness since I had re-joined !!

Most of the other times i have had to beg ppl to stop removing/deleting etc, and realistically you are the first ed i have come across that has been Wikified !! Most jsut delete first and ask questions later (and most of the time they dont even do that lol)

thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 12:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, don't go giving me more credit than I deserve, if I think your article should be deleted, I'll ~~delete it~~ request that it be deleted. Yours seemed to be about a notable person, so I gave it a temporary umbrella :)

Beating cluebot

How on earth do u do it? Plus that Jimmy wales thing freaked me out! Aussie Humour I guess :p DFS454 (talk) 12:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

To level up to "User Who Has Beaten Cluebot to the Revert SUKKAZZZ" you need patience, rollback, and absolutely no life. Seriously, though, it doesn't happen very often, it's not a game, it's no big deal, and other assorted pre-written lines intended to make me look good in front of the big kids. (Sorry, this probably makes absolutely no sense. I think I've overloaded my in-joke machine.) --Closedmouth (talk) 13:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you are hilarious! --DFS454 (talk) 15:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Good Humor

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		Congratulations on earning the "User Who Has Beaten Cluebot to the Revert SUKKAZZZ" barnstar, aka the "I have no life" barnstar, aka the "Good work keep me busy as hell at WP:AIV and WP:CSD tonight" barnstar. :) Trusilver 10:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I love you. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Aww... usually it's the vandals telling me that. (actually, they are saying "fuck you" but it means the same thing.....right?) Trusilver 10:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

It's probably best to keep thinking that. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Power Rangers

What can I say, men in tight pink jumpsuits don't really do it for me. The whack-a-jimbo on the side of your page = terrifying, by the way. My first reaction was 'ahh, Jack Nicholson!' Ironholds (talk) 10:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

One day Jimbo will visit your talkpage. Then, then the fun will start. Ironholds (talk) 10:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Five quid says his first reaction is 'I need to shave'. Ironholds (talk) 10:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Ainlina has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching! Thanks for reverting vandalism

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

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It's raining love tonight. Thank you. (n_n) --Closedmouth (talk) 10:38, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

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That image....

Firstly, ARGGHHH!! Jimbo still scares me. Secondly, we never did have any luck with that image? ;( — Realist² 01:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

The Wave

I'd like to move this to an appropriate title, as one of the articles (96.4 The Wave) needs a move, due to a cleanup of the article. 96.4 The Wave needs to be called The Wave, as DAB & online coverage is rising to the FM listening stage, therefore correcting the name. Please write back. Jonny7003 (talk) 19:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Erm, no, it's fine as it is. --Closedmouth (talk) 02:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but...

Thanks for responding to my "helpme" query. Now I have two more questions! Could you visit my talkpage again? Thanks! BrainyBabe (talk) 08:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Dogcart

Yeah, it's a good photo, isn't it? BrainyBabe (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I guess so. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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Delievered by SoxBot II (talk) at 21:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Barny

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thanks indeed for reverting the vandalism edits on Wikipedia again and again! —KnowledgeHegemony ^talk 15:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you jesus. --Closedmouth (talk) 15:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Jesus? —KnowledgeHegemony ^talk 17:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes? --Closedmouth (talk) 06:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh thank you jesus, as in "Thank you God"! My bad! Very bad! —KnowledgeHegemony ^talk 08:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

My default setting is nonsense. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

You're a lifeless nerd, you have over 140 "friends" even on f*ing last.fm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.216.123.38 (talk) 10:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, this is true. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)