User talk:Bonadea/Archive 28
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Banaphar
Hii dear bonadea please see Banaphar page
Not conflict of interest
I have not written an article about myself but about the actress Dorothy Gibson. I have disclosed the fact that I am the author of a biography of Dorothy Gibson and I use my own name as a handle on Wikipedia so I am not attempting to misrepresent myself. Finally, I am not advertising myself but providing information about the subject of this article. Best wishes, Randy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randy-bigham (talk • contribs) 19:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- When you add your own name to Wikipedia articles, and add references to your own books, that is by definition a conflict of interest. As explained on your user talk page, if you believe that your book would be a useful resource in a particular article, you should make an edit request on that article's talk page. Uninvolved editors can then make a case-by-case decision. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 19:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Conflict of interest - Admission essay
I have added extra information to the "Application essays" page as I find the original article not fully completed. There was missing a lot of crucial information and facts that determine the content of the article. I have added the source eesayedge.com as a trusted source that is well-known in the field of admission essays. I used this source as the reference as it isn't a bias one. The text that I have written for the article is informative and useful exactly for people who visit the page of this article. My point of view is neutral in this text, and I don't represent subjective opinions regarding the topic. Each paragraph that I have added contains the content that matches the title. Thus, these points are suitable for the article. --Sophia Brakeman (talk) 15:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Sophia Brakeman
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a how-to-write-your-application-essay site. The content you added was not in accordance with the formal tone of an encyclopedia article. Please declare any connection witht he website you have repeatedly cited in accordance with Wikipedia's terms of use. Acroterion (talk) 15:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- As Acroterion says, the text was not appropriate for an encyclopedia – that's not strange, since much of it seemed to be direct quotes from the source, which is a commercial service, not an informational site. It should not be used as a reference on Wikipedia. The text was also very specific indeed about details that presumably apply to the American educational system. A Wikipedia article is not a step-by-step process description, and it should have a global perspective, unless the article has a specific local/regional focus. --bonadea contributions talk 21:39, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
FYI
Sinebot is also a troll! El_C 16:28, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ah-ha! Suddenly everything makes sense!1 --bonadea contributions talk 16:34, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- 1maybe not everything.
- Well, a troll-auxiliary in that it always seem to favour trolls over good faith newbies. El_C 17:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 42
Books & Bytes
Issue 42, January – February 2021
- New partnerships: PNAS, De Gruyter, Nomos
- 1Lib1Ref
- Library Card
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Blog
I am unable to decipher what blog you reference in your Teahouse post? Cluestick ? And the most aggressive and disruptive editors I have experienced on Wikipedia are generally women ... N=1 alert :) It's not hard to see how exasperating the BLUDGEONING walls of text on that talk page became. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:07, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Arbcom blocks [1] [2] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:37, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Infinitepeace
Left him a note, but definitely needs to go to ANI with full set of difs. And for more than NPA. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
March 2021
With respect to above mentioned reference to the comment as I was working on the article of Kamlesh D. Patel, reorganizing content, I noticed The Heartfulness Way page and by mistake I didn't provide proper comments for my changes in The Heartfulness Way wiki article. To my knowledge content in The Heartfulness Way appeared to be written in a neutral tone and I have seen many such articles on books (Eg - If a user searches A. P. J. Abdul Kalam, under Books, documentaries and popular culture section, user can find books authored by A.P.J.Abdul Kalam and many of his works have separate wiki article dedicated to those works). So can you kindly explain further what is the issue with The heartfulness way article. Thanks --Ensconce (talk) 15:33, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Nightingale College
Thanks for giving us a rest. The talk page of this article is ridiculous. Could it be archived or rather AfD the article? --Anneyh (talk) 16:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Have a look
Hello, please have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phoenix man. It might help you a lot for dealing with Logical Puzzle Kichu🐘 Need any help? 09:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
See this [3] One of the socks had interest in Priya Prakash Varrier Kichu🐘 Need any help? 09:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Please Explain
Hi, Can you please explain which promotional content I used in my Wikipedia page. and how I'm violating the Wikipedia Guidelines? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnkuPrince7 (talk • contribs) 08:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. You created a parallel version of Vijay Shekhar Sharma in your user space. That is weird and there is no point in doing so, but the really serious thing is that when advertising and copyright violations were removed from the article, you kept them in your userspace. Why? What is the reason for having that copy of the article, and why do you keep copying text from the sources, after multiple notices about copyright violations? You advertise your services as a SEO specialist, so you should understand the concept of copyright violations, not to mention the fact that text written to present a person in a newspaper won't make any sense if it is copied straight into a Wikipedia article.
- You have also forgotten to declare your paid relationship with Sharma. You need to do that before you make any more edits. If you keep editing the article with the same kind of promotional crap, you will probably be blocked from editing. --bonadea contributions talk 08:58, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Regarding award on Souhardya De
Hi Bonadea, Thank you for helping me learn a bit. The copied text I took has been removed by you but I have just added that the award is a civilian award and not an award since there is a difference in India between the two. Other than that, I think it is okay if we do not add the name of the felicitator and so on. But then, you need to remove it from Prasiddhi Singh as well. Please cooperate and thank you for your help! regards, Snehashis6577 (talk) 14:07, 4 April 2021 (UTC)Snehashis6577
- @Snehashis6577: thank you for your message. If you see content that does not belong in a Wikipedia article, such that you have a policy compliant reason to remove it, feel free to do so, or post to that article's talk page about it. --bonadea contributions talk 14:10, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: thank you ma’am. I’ll do the necessary action required. Snehashis6577 (talk) 14:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)Snehasis6577
Question about the Mike Greenhaus page
Hi. I am having trouble figuring out what the problem is with the Mike Greenhaus page as from what I can follow it was you who flagged the issue. The other Editor-in-chief of Relix Magazine, Dean Budnick has a page. Could you share with me what the problem(s) are or point me in a direction to find the answers? Any guidance would be much appreciated.
@Bonadea: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vixhenry (talk • contribs) 22:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Vixhenry: thank you for your message. I did not recognise the name but after some searching I found some discussion threads about it from last year. There was a draft that did not show how Greenhaus was notable, but the draft's creator found that difficult to accept, so s/he moved it to mainspace even though it had been declined by reviewers. As far as I can work out, what I did was simply to move it back to draftspace. Draft:Mike Greenhaus was deleted as a stale draft in December, but you can request at WP:REFUND to have it restored if you want to work on it. Please be aware that if there is an article about another editor at the same magazine, that has no bearing on whether there should be an article about Greenhaus – the only relevant question is whether Greenhaus meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. This discussion about the draft might be of interest to you, too. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 14:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much. This is very thorough and helpful and clears up the challenge. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vixhenry (talk • contribs) 15:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Danny Ramsay
I can see now how you have termed my edits as disruptive. Can you please guide me to the area of notability and where I can have constructive input into this page. Videoradiostar (talk) 18:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Will respond on your user talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 19:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Problem user
Hi, This and this, coupled with unsourced POV commentaries the user has been adding in different articles deserve to get reported at WP:ANI IMO. Looks like someone here to push some sort of agenda. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:51, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Also note the unsourced additions and possible OR here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:52, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
False Paid Promo Claim
The text is sourced from the webpage: https://www.xlri.ac.in/delhi-ncr-campus.aspx This is publicly available. The college has started a new campus in 2020, my edit was meant to reflect that, but seems like no one is willing to listen on Wikipedia and brand me as a paid advertiser. It is really funny. Please let someone competent check my edits and the veracity of the information.
Housofx (talk) 13:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)User talk:Housofx
- Please re-read my comment. The text you added was written like an advertisement, which means that it was not appropriate for a Wikipedia article. In addition, the sources you provided did not support the content. I did take the time to read the sources you included, and they contained some, but not all, of the information you added. However, even if you were to include the school's own website as a source, you could still not add the text you proposed, because it is promotional rather than informational. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 13:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Okay then can anyone edit what I wrote into an informational format or whatever that means? Because I sourced all of it from the school's website. All the facts and figures. If that is not informational, then I do not know what to do here. That Wiki page now gives false and incorrect info, but everyone seems to be okay with that. Housofx (talk) 15:41, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Image copyright
How can I upload twitter images on Wikipedia? U.G sam (talk) 05:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- If you mean images like File:Ajey Nagar.jpj.jpg which has been tagged as a copyright violation at Commons, as far as I know, you can't. If you find an image on Twitter, you can assume that it is copyrighted, and copyrighted images should not be uploaded to Wikipedia or to Commons. There are some exceptions where non-free files can be used on English Wikipedia only (not at Commons or any other language Wikipedia), but that particular file does not fall under such an exception. I am not a copyright expert, but this is a pretty clear-cut case, especially since the image has no informational content, and it is not the subject of critical discussion (which might have made it OK to use it). Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:42, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Mathew Munna
I'm Mathew Munna.Bonadea you think I'm fool or what. Why you change and delete my edits in ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN'S Wikipedia page. The all informations I add are very very true informations about ASHWIN KUMAR LAKSHMIKANTHAN. Why you change them. I want to know today. You think I'm a fool or stupid. Please give a suitable response. Mathew Munna (talk) 13:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Mathew Munna: I have removed information with no source, removed or rephrased text that was repetitive or poorly written, and removed some inappropriately promotional text from Ashwin Kumar Lakshmikanthan. I did not remove any of your edits specifically, but when I look now at the edits you had made, I see that some of your additions were removed or rewritten. Several people have posted information to your user talk page about the absolute requirement for reliable sources, so that would be the main reason why some of your additions were reverted. Take this edit for instance, where you changed the name of the character he played in a film. The source does not use the name you added, it uses the one that was in the article previously. Other parts of that edit were not changed. Again: it does not matter if you know that something is true information, if you do not have a reliable source that supports that information. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 13:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
I will change and add the the informations again. It's true. Don't change or delete again. Mathew Munna (talk) 14:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- OK, I'll post a formal warning to your user talk page. It is not acceptable to restore unsourced claims (that contradict existing sources) when you have been told repeatedly that sources are required. You also cannot tell other editors not to edit Wikipedia articles. As long as your fellow editors edit according to Wikipedia policies, which includes removing unsourced information, they are absolutely allowed to do so. --bonadea contributions talk 14:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Dear Bonadea,
I had worked with Melanie in creating the original page and firstly, thank you so much in cleaning up the page and letting us learn how to make edits in a simple ways without any promotional fluff. Thank you so much and I'm so sorry abt the edit wars happening with other users.
I hv added some info regarding the brands he had endorsed as a model and the reference added cites few ads he had worked on. Please review and let me know if it satisfies the requirement. Thank you Adapongaiya (talk) 22:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC).
Dear Bonadea,
cud u pls check this source [[4]], the 4th bullein from the bottom says he has done around 8 ads including chennai silks, saravana stores, Rajendra silks and Minister white ads as in 2018. Now that he has over 40 ads, they are available in YT, but I shall look for better news article covering the same. Thank you for your comments. Adapongaiya (talk) 20:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC).
- For the record, the article is Ashwin Kumar Lakshmikanthan. Hi @Adapongaiya: Yes, but that is not the source that was in the article, and it does not strike me as a very good source in any case. Does it actually say that he is a model? I have to rely on translation software and that is notoriously unreliable, but I ran the text through two different translators and both of them translated "நடித்திருக்கிறார்" as "he has acted". Acting in a commercial does not make an actor a model.
- Just listing a number of more or less well-known brands he has advertised is not particularly useful. If any of the adverts is notable in itself, or if there are sources that discuss some of the ads instead of just mentioning a bunch of companies or brands, then those brands could be mentioned.
- Important Above, and elsewhere ([5], [6]), you use the words "we" and "us" to refer to your own edits. What does "we" and "us" mean? It also looks as if all your edits to Wikipedia for more than one year have been about Ashwin Kumar Lakshmikanthan, including asking multiple different volunteer editors to review your draft, and adding mentions of him to other articles. What is your connection to him? It is a little surprising that nobody has yet provided the necessary information about conflicts of interest and paid editing on your user talk page; I will do so now. --bonadea contributions talk 07:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Dear Bonadea,
Thanks for your detailed clarification on Brands. I shall look around for the better sources.
I am an individual, not affiliated with any org, not connected with the individual. It was my first wiki page article a year ago and it ended in AFD deletion. At that time, I was advised by the admin to use talk pages to reach out to senior editors to assist in improving the article. I have been taking baby steps in learning the skills of wiki editing. I'm still a beginner, learning and this page has been my trial and error. When I am sure of my editing, I shall work and create more articles. Thank you Adapongaiya (talk) 13:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC).
Amazon
@Bonadea: Your edits on yesterday at 21:00 UTC 7 really disturbed my night sleep! How are sources from Amazon unreliable? It is not, and if you see this (Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources), it was said that Amazon is unreliable when you cited the readers' reviews from there (of course I never and will not do that), but not for the ISBN, release dates, and the author names. If you wanted to remove all Amazon citations from Wikipedia, why do not you remove these too? (in Madonna: Like an Icon and Madonna: An Intimate Biography) The nominator(s) has/have cited Amazon as references for very, very long time... And for Rajesh Khanna: The Untold Story of India's First Superstar—sigh—first, please take a look from both articles I mentioned; you will probably understand why I did that.
Also, note this please, I have nominated several articles to GA with Amazon citations and all of them succeeded (see those on my userpage if you want). It means Amazon is acceptable on Wikipedia, and not like what you think! Please I have never found an user as annoying as you (sorry if this offended you), your decision to remove all of Amazon citations from articles I expanded is weird. Once again, Amazon is reliable, expect for the reviews by the readers. If you want to notify other users and discuss this, I will agree. --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 01:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Responded on your user talk page; in addition to the points made there, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and if the removal of a few links from a couple of Wikipedia articles makes you unable to sleep, it is possible that you are too close to the topic to view it dispassionately. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources does not support the use of multiple links to that sales website, and certainly not the use of a commercial link for a different work. Please re-read it and notice where it says "it is unnecessary to cite Amazon when the work itself may serve as a source for that information (e.g., authors' names and ISBNs)." --bonadea contributions talk 09:33, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- This is the point I need to emphasize, all of books by Yasser Usman did not detailly mention their release dates, only the year. --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 09:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Splendid! Then there is definitely no reason for an Amazon.com link. Thanks! --bonadea contributions talk 09:59, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Dear Bonadea, Hi! Firstly i appreciate your intervention on the subject page. As per advice, i have made some edits and references. Kindly have a look. Thanks and best regards RV (talk) 07:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Your actions against my editing
Hi, you have reverted many of my edits in an unfair way, you personally have had political beliefs and ideas around how society should be and for that reason you have ripped up many things I edited. I also edited information on pages that there was never any disagreement about such as the links to different cities on the map on Sweden and the euro.
If you are unhappy with my edits please only undo things that you don't like such as European Politician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubeloadan (talk • contribs) 08:21, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Don't make assumptions about other editors' political or other standpoints, and do not attack others by accusing them of "undoing things they don't like". I explained pretty carefully why it is in fact incorrect to use "European" as a demonym. Comment on edits and not on contributors, and assume that other editors are trying to make Wikipedia conform to policies and guidelines. I have not "acted against your editing", I have reverted your edits when they were unhelpful, and I have explained exactly why I have done so.
- As for the piping of municipalities in Sweden and the euro and elsewhere, you have been consistently adding pipes to links to municipalities or counties. In some cases, such as here, that resulted in an incorrect text (Västerbotten is a province which is not the same thing as Västerbotten County – the county also includes parts of other provinces). There is no obvious reason for adding pipes, but if you believe you have good reason for doing so, by all means feel free to start discussions about it on the relevant article talk pages. The particular case of Sweden and the euro – well, as you know, the main reason for reverting you was the unsourced claim that there are plans to introduce the euro as a currency, which I have been unable to find any confirmation for. Since the "links to cities" in that article are not links to cities but to municipalities, it seemed pretty uncontroversial to just revert them back, but again, you should absolutely start a discussion about that at Talk:Sweden and the euro if you disagree. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 08:41, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
ANI discussion on Zamora
At [7]. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. --bonadea contributions talk 14:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.256Drg (talk) 01:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Article Deletion of Deepak Rawat
As you were so much insisting for deletion of pageDeepak Rawat So......
Dear Bonadea, Article- Deepak Rawat. This-- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Deepak_Rawat
Let just take some examples, one by one---
Link 1-- 👇
Question No.1-- Is there just trivial mention in this👆 news about Deepak Rawat or the entire news article is about Deepak Rawat IAS?
After (answer) this I'll give more links and questions. Because on deletion page you were not answering on my questions. There editors are just voting, don't wany conversation. Conversation makes things clear. One shouldn't run away from discussion. So just let start it here.
Thanks. Regards. Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 14:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC) Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 15:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC) Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 15:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Let's not, since I already addressed this in the deletion discussion. Thanks. --bonadea contributions talk 15:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Independent citations
Hi Bonadea. I was hoping you could elaborate on your feedback at Draft:Theradome (helmet). You said it needed citations independent of the company. Are the citations to Bloomberg, Fox News, etc. not considered independent? If journalists cannot be used, what kind of citations are needed that are considered independent?
Best Tamim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsh2021 (talk • contribs) 05:24, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Please remove the notice of rejection
@Bonadea:, Why did you reject Draft:Emiway? While it caters to reliable and independent sources of all subjects. I feel really sad. However it was reviewed by an experienced user (NPR). He also messaged (read talk message) the administrator to reduce the protection of its main title Emiway Bantai. this is your eror. I would request that the notice of rejection be removed from the draft. It is eligible to be published. 2402:3A80:10DF:A8F:AC42:4C38:5226:9A00 (talk) 09:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- I stand by my rejection. If you do not understand the reason, which was clearly spelled out in the notice, you should follow the information links in that notice. What is the urgency, and why are you so anxious to create an article about this individual? --bonadea contributions talk 09:58, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea:, I am his fan. The one you are reading as an advertisement is almost created by Dan arndt who is also an NPR. 2402:3A80:10DF:A8F:AC42:4C38:5226:9A00 (talk) 10:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- That does not address my question: Why are you so anxious to create an article about this person? Anyway, I have already reviewed the draft (more than once) and the "other parent" approach won't fly. --bonadea contributions talk 10:10, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea:, I can tell you many such articles on wiki on which there is not a single source which can prove its notability but still it is accepted by critics. While I am giving a solid source. Well, every parent has a different point of view, but he should not approve of them, who cannot prove anything. You have made me sad 2402:3A80:10DF:A8F:AC42:4C38:5226:9A00 (talk) 10:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- That does not address my question: Why are you so anxious to create an article about this person? Anyway, I have already reviewed the draft (more than once) and the "other parent" approach won't fly. --bonadea contributions talk 10:10, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Emiway
Hi @Bonadea, Sorry to disturb you. The draft Emiway is in my watchlist and I saw you have declined the draft stating the subject is not notable. Here I fail to understand why the subject is not notable if we have a good amount of coverage from sources like The Indian Express, Rolling Stone India, Times of India. Thankyou. signed, Iflaq (talk) 17:13, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
May perhaps become more active again. Which I'm hoping other people will deal with. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yay. Well, it's good to know. --bonadea contributions talk 18:52, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Looking on the bright side of life, it seems to be an infrequent editor. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:02, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 43
Books & Bytes
Issue 43, March – April 2021
- New Library Card designs
- 1Lib1Ref May
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
False information
Somebody has labeled the Tower of Babel a myth. It actually existed and location can be visited in Iraq. Oleo743 (talk) 02:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Oleo743: thank you for your message. Do you mean the Etemenanki ziggurat? The article Tower of Babel does talk about that, both in the introduction and in the article body, and it says that some scholars think that the Etemenanki is the structure mentioned in the myth. Nobody knows for certain, though, and there are other tower ruins that have also been identified as the Tower of Babel. The phrase "origin myth" refers to the story about the origin of different languages, not to the physical tower; in other words, even if the story mentions a tower that actually existed, the events are mythical and not factual. --bonadea contributions talk 07:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
@Bonadea: Thank you for telling me what I can't do. I'm embarrassed now. Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 11:29, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Hockeycatcat: There's no need to be embarrassed! We all live and learn, and Wikipedia has quite a lot of guidelines to keep track of. You are definitely not the first person to think that removing warnings is not allowed – I'm pretty sure I also warned users for doing that before I realised that it is OK to do so. Happy editing, --bonadea contributions talk 11:46, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Help
Hey sorry to disturb u can you please create an article about famous song "Yalgaar" by CarryMinati U.G sam (talk) 05:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
May 2021
In a recent discussion of carryMinati,I would like to mention you that I am an independent contributor and writing with good faith and a neutral point of view.
Groenkloof: Herbert Baker White Jackarandas
Dear Bonadea
The original picture you reverted back to is possibly taken from a view from Herbert Baker street and not actually of Groenkloof (Or let agree its not just Groenkloof) it would be more appropriate as a picture of the neighboring suburb Lucas Rand of which it IS a picture off.
The unique white Jacarandas are only in Herbert Baker street in the country. These Jacarandas are albino Jacaranda trees given to the Pretoria municipality by the Calafornia government in the 1950s. Herbert Baker street is the only street in the country with these Jacarandas and this makes Groenkloof a tourist attraction with a lot of tourist busses coming to see Herbert Baker street specifically.
Would you mind helping change the picture you removed as the main picture in the article, and moving the one you reverted to the gallery section please?
Center for Italian Modern Art
Hello! I have tried re-editing the submission for Center for Italian Modern Art - I hope I did a better job and made it more suitable for Wikipedia. Could you please let me know? thank you so much in advance!Askkaty2write (talk) 02:47, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Askkaty2write: thank you for your message. Looking at your edits, I see that you have removed a couple of the primary sources, but you have not added any new sources. As I said in my comment when I declined the draft, you need several independent sources that talk specifically about the CIMA, and currently there are no such sources in the draft. The issues with close paraphrasing are also still present – the paragraph starting with "Each academic year [...]" is a very close paraphrase of this source and this source, which were used as references in the draft before but were among those you removed. That the source is not used as a reference does not mean that text from it can be copied into the article. There is also no source for some of the information, such as "... from the 1860s to the 1970s" – how do you know that? Finally, I'm afraid the draft is still promotionally written, even though you have worked on the phrasing (don't remove too much, though – you deleted the info about which city it is in!) Remember that you are not writing for an audience of New Yorkers, or even for Americans, but for a global readership who are not interested in opening hours or whether it is a 501c3 public nonprofit. Thanks for linking "501c3", though; many Americans take it for granted that the rest of the world will understand that impenetrable code! :-) I see that you have submitted the draft for review again, but there is nothing that stops you from improving it while you are waiting for another review. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:32, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
this is SO SO SO SO HELPFUL! thank you so much! Will be back in touch. Askkaty2write (talk) 18:05, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
I took your incredible advice and called the center for some more information. Would you mind taking another look for me? thank you!!!Askkaty2write (talk) 14:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: Is there any way you can possibly take another look at the submission? thank you!Askkaty2write (talk) 02:39, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi! this was regarding dnata's page. Wanted to understand why it was deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuj timetravel (talk • contribs) 17:22, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Anuj timetravel:, thank you for your message. The article dnata has not been deleted, but I reverted a number of edits to it, including yours. Earlier edits by other people had removed the entire introduction, so it was important to restore that. As for your edit, I will restore the factual information about the company starting to offer services in India, but the source you included did not support all the information in your text. Also note that words in the article should not be linked to external websites; sources are added as references in footnotes. More information here and here.
- If you have been hired or contracted to edit Wikipedia on behalf of dnata or any other company or individual, you need to read this information and make the necessary disclosures – these are mandatory for any editor who receives any form of compensation for their edits. --bonadea contributions talk 15:11, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
FYI, this user has started to do a similar thing (not link spamming) but adding "women-only tours" repetitively on en.wikivoyage (and edit warring with me and an admin). I'm only letting you know as you warned this user earlier in the week, and you might want to keep an eye out for this user's edits. Thanks, SHB2000 (talk) 12:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
What do you make of this?
I saw you warning a particular user about adding the names of non-notable children to pages. I came across this, where many names are red-linked. It's a bit creepy to be linked the name of someone born in 2019. How many of these can we cut?--- Possibly (talk) 05:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Possibly: Good grief – there isn't even a source for most of those. To begin with, I suggest removing the wives, children, and grandchildren of the sons of Olof and Lisbeth Palme. Non-notable minors really should not be included, and living, non-notable adults where there is no reliable source mentioning them ought also to be removed per WP:BLPNAME. BLP aside, I do wonder about the logic behind adding a former spouse, not mentioned in any sources, whose name isn't Palme...! --bonadea contributions talk 09:56, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) The user in question has also created an article for Mattias Järvinen Palme, the third son of Olof and Lisbet, with no other claim to fame that I can see. I've redirected it to the family article. Which contained a lot of non-notable individuals even before the additions of babies and ex-wives... maybe it would be better to prod Mattias? The article Olof Palme, rather curiously, has no personal life section, so is not a good redirect target. Bishonen | tålk 11:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC).
- Not having a personal life section is pretty odd! I've been meaning to read this Palme biography, and once I get around to doing so I'll hopefully learn more about his life. Oh, and here is something that feels even more odd: when I calculated how many days it's been since the assassination and then went back the same number of days, I got to November 1950...!
- (talk page stalker) The user in question has also created an article for Mattias Järvinen Palme, the third son of Olof and Lisbet, with no other claim to fame that I can see. I've redirected it to the family article. Which contained a lot of non-notable individuals even before the additions of babies and ex-wives... maybe it would be better to prod Mattias? The article Olof Palme, rather curiously, has no personal life section, so is not a good redirect target. Bishonen | tålk 11:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC).
- I guess it doesn't hurt to have a redirect from Mattias to the family article, but I won't weep if it is prodded and deleted. As for the user in question, there are definitely some CIR issues there, and then there is this. --bonadea contributions talk 16:54, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi! The article Draft:Ezequiel Matthysse is now ready for creation! Thank you very much for the bugs you showed me that they had ... I fixed and improved all the bugs you mentioned to me. Now I hope you can publish the article Ezequiel Matthysse (Draft:Ezequiel Matthysse). It took me a lot of time, research and it is also encyclopedic to be on wikipedia ... try to put many references and quotes to verify that everything is relevant. Emat20211 (talk) 03:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)Emat20211
- @Emat20211: It looks like you fixed the errors in citations, but neither of the other issues (overlinking and inappropriate content). Note that you should not remove old Articles for Creation declines or notices from the draft. If the draft is accepted, the notices will automatically be removed.
- You have submitted the draft for review. Asking people on their user talk pages (or on help pages or other places) to review it is unnecessary. --bonadea contributions talk 05:53, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Can you change from viral video to personal life? Do your research and there is a lot on that section Emat20211 (talk) 12:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)Emat20211
Ready, again fix and solve the errors that you mentioned to me in Draft:Ezequiel Matthysse, I also added more references / citations and eliminated the "viral video" section, also eliminated phrases that could seem promotional content. Thanks for helping me and sorry for my mistakes, I keep learning! I hope you review the article and publish it! Emat20211 (talk) 13:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)Emat20211
- It is a learning process, and creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. Your draft is submitted for review, and somebody will review it in due time. I see that you have again posted to multiple user talk pages and other pages asking people to review the draft. Once you have submitted it, so the yellow box saying "Review waiting, please be patient." shows up, you simply have to wait for the review to happen. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 14:26, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok, im sorry!!! Emat20211 (talk) 16:20, 31 May 2021 (UTC)Emat20211
Hello, I do not understand why the draft Draft:Ezequiel Matthysse has not yet been published, I have reviewed it and the article is fine with all its references, and the sports notable in this article is that he was amateur world champion of the WBC.
(I already know and understand that the article is waiting for the review and you have to be patient, but what I go to is that they review it and they always say that it is wrong, and I reviewed it lately and the article is good. Also in the Discussion page Draft:Ezequiel Matthysse is clear that there is no relationship with the subject of the article and no conflict of interest, along with the explanation of sports notability).
Emat20211 (talk) 14:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)Emat20211
- Emat20211 has been blocked as a sockpuppet. --bonadea contributions talk 06:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Request to Review your Draftication of Zaid Ali T
Hello bonadea, Please review your Draftication of Zaid Ali. I'm not very clear what was wrong with Zaid Ali T as it has more than 10 citations from reliable, independent sources. Some of such citations are; national level Pakistani sources such as the
- Nation(Largest Pakistani English Newspaper) 1 2,
- Geo/Jang Media(largest urdu News group) 3,
- inCPak 4,
- Samaa News(National level News channel) 5,
- Duniya News 6.
I think it'll be more better if we categorized it to stub, so more users can add content to it. Thank you Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 11:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Need help with Richa Jain
Hey, I remember you helped me with one AFC article which I had accepted by mistake. reaching out for more help. I am struggling with Richa Jain. This was first in draft that was CSD'd. Then they again created it it mainspace which I draftified. There is clear WP:COI here. Now, they have again got it back to mainsapce. How to put a pause on this mayhem? can this be salted? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 13:24, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Update, I opened an SPI case for two users here Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Himanshushukla433 (My first!). Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 13:30, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Yalgaar
Hi @Bonadea, The draft Yalgaar is in my watchlist and I saw you have declined the draft stating the subject is not notable. Here I fail to understand why the subject is not notable if we have a good amount of coverage from sources like The Indian Express, Republic world, The Economic Times and many more Thankyou. Ramesh012 (talk) 14:58, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
User talk:Susantarout123
Hi Bonadea. Thanks for taking care of that. Like you, I think the editor just misunderstand what a draft means and was trying to create a user page/profile. FYI though, I think you might've signed your user talk page post with five tildes instead of four. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
About your edit.
@Bonadea: Iam talking about your edit(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anikha&oldid=1028520952) in Anikha. As you said there you removed references according to WP:ELMINOFFICIAL but why did you remove the info in Personal life and Career. And a single reference of a particular website is valid according to WP:ELMINOFFICIAL then why did you remove every reference. You also removed external link of instagram which is already listed in her wikidata(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20090119). These are my problems with your edit.Siddartha897 (talk) 16:43, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Siddartha897, YouTube videos and websites like this one are not acceptable source for a BLP, or for anything, really. Drmies (talk) 16:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Siddartha897: In addition to what Drmies says, WP:ELMINOFFICIAL is not about references but external links, so my mention of that related to my removal of the Instagram link, and not to the removal of references. What is listed at Wikidata is not really relevant since that's a different project with different guidelines – if anything, having the Instagram link at Wikidata makes it extra unnecessary to include it in a Wikipedia article. Regarding the removal of some text from "Personal life", WP:BLP says that we have to be careful about not adding unsourced or poorly sourced information about living people, and that applies particularly strongly to names and information about family members who are not themselves notable, and things like her brother helping her with social media fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE. If there were a reliable source talking about which schools she has been to, that information could be restored. In the "Career" section, I removed some information that was poorly sourced, and rewrote the section a little to make the language flow better. --bonadea contributions talk 17:14, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Drmies: and @Bonadea: Whatever you are saying it is correct and I agree with you. But I think even the information is true, without reliable sources it is not accepted here on WP.Siddartha897 (talk) 09:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
24 News Draft
Hello, 24 news is Popular Malayalam News Channel. It have Billions of Fans. But it have no Wikipedia Page in English. But it have Page In Malayalam Language. Please Search "24 News Malayalam" and See The channel on any Search Engine. Thanks, EditzIndia (talk) 17:31, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- @EditzIndia: I put some effort into explaining exactly why none of the sources in the draft shows that it is notable. Since you resubmitted the draft without changing anything, neither removing any of the bad sources nor adding sources that do meet WP:RS, it should have been obvious that the draft would be declined again. (Re-pinging since I forgot to sign: @EditzIndia: --bonadea contributions talk 17:42, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Shyam Metallics article
There are references added dating back to 2018... All the details provided have been linked with authentic sources... I hope you will understand and help me publish the article... BNJ Nilam (talk) 21:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Jeff Bezos lede Vs CarryMinati lede
You seem to be a very biased editor. In Jeff Bezos wikipedia page their is mentioned in the lede paragraph that Jeff bezos is richest person in the world. Now I will ask you the same question you asked me 1)Isn't this line used as promotion? Than why is wikipedia being a promotional tool in case of Jeff Bezos and mentioning that he is richest person in the world in the lede paragraph? 2) and what if a secondary money maker surpasses Jeff Bezos? What will happen than? 3)So will you let me to put that sentence again in Carryminati with a secondary and independent source? 4)Wikipedia policies says that stating noteworthy facts are not promotional, it seems you are very uneducated on wikipedia policies. 5)Why can't we mention that CarryMinati is the most subscribed Youtuber in Asia and state the number of subscribers just like Jeff Bezos lede paragraph about money which also states how much money he has in number?
Swtadi143 (talk) 14:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Swtadi143: 1), 2) I don't know anything about that article or which sources are used. I'm only vaguely aware of who Jeff Bezos is – some rich guy over in America – and I also don't know whether there has been a large number of paid shills editing the article about him. I do know that such shills have been spamming Wikipedia on behalf of CarryMinati for quite some time now. 3) It is still irrelevant what happens in another article, but it should be evident that there is a fundamental difference between wealth and number of followers, in terms of verifiability. 4) "Biggest in Asia" is not a "noteworthy fact", it is a promotional claim. Do not comment on contributors. 5) Feel free to post an edit request on Talk:CarryMinati, but be aware that claims of his being "the biggest" or "having the largest number of subscribers" won't be added to the introduction since it is fundamentally unverifiable, unlike claims about wealth. The claim of 30 million followers is already in the article. (You are aware of the fact that the primary and non-independent source you used didn't even support the "biggest in Asia" claim, right?) Make sure to read and understand what WP:SECONDARY and WP:INDEPENDENT mean. Nothing that's based on interviews or press releases is acceptable for that kind of information. --bonadea contributions talk 14:34, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to review this draft. I have added two additional sources, both long-form coverage from Irish Times and Wired Magazine. Do you feel that this pushes the article over the notability threshold? --Salimfadhley (talk) 12:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Salimfadhley: Thanks for your message, and sorry to be slow to respond. I see there are now three sources that were not in the draft before. The article in Irish Times presents Sutherland's points of view without discussion or analysis, and is apparently based on his book and/or on an interview. It is reasonably long, independent and reliable, but it's another primary source. The article in The Times is more straightforwardly an interview, focusing at least partly on his book – it seems like the publication of Alchemy was the reason for the interview. Again, reliable, independent, but primary. The text in Wired is written by Sutherland, so that is neither independent nor secondary. I do think that Sutherland is quite possibly notable – the report "Think Of Me As Evil? Opening The Ethical Debates In Advertising" (linked here) indicates as much, for instance – but it is almost inevitable that the notability of a marketing professional will be scrutinised pretty closely. You might ask for more input from the Articles for Creation Help Desk where a wider range of reviewers will see your question. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 14:47, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. This chap has been famous in his industry for as long as I've known of him, so I expect that I will be able to find some more sources. --Salimfadhley (talk) 16:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Leemour Pelli article: 'Work' section reads like an advertisement
Hi, thanks for your suggestions on the Leemour Pelli article. I've rewritten the work suggestion and gotten some help from the #wikipedia-en-help channel and implemented those edits as well. Can you take another look and see what else needs to be changed? Thank you! Woodholder (talk) 04:06, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, checking in to see if you could review the changes on this article? I've taken your suggestion to rewrite the Work section. Thank you so much! Woodholder (talk) 20:52, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Woodholder: thanks for this – and sorry I did not get back to you earlier. Nice work! If you submit the draft for review now I think there is a very good chance it will be accepted. If I see it submitted I will (almost certainly) accept it myself. There seems to be no doubt of the fact that she is notable according to Wikipedia's quirky definition of the term "notability", so my issue was really just with the tone of writing. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 17:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: Thanks so much! I will resubmit it for review. Thank you for help in improving the article, appreciate it.
Woodholder (talk) 21:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Removing Redirect on Yalgaar
Hi, you redirected the page Yalgaar to Yalghaar. Both pages are totally different, as you can see in the spellings. Yalgaar is a 1992 Indian film by Feroz Khan and Yalghaar is a 2017 Pakistani film by Hassan Rana. So, I am going to remove the redirect of Yalgaar. If you find some errors in the page, then ask me on my Talk page. Thank you. KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 14:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @KungfuPanda2008: please do not remove the redirect. The community discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yalgaar_(1992_film) decided that the 1992 film is not sufficiently notable for a separate article. If you have found additional sources, please create a draft about the 1992 film and submit it for review, instead of overriding the consensus from the discussion. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 14:55, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
I am going to remove the redirect and create disambiguation page Yalgaar. And a different page titled Yalgaar (film). Thanks KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 15:01, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @KungfuPanda2008: No, that is not how you do it. First you create a draft (not an article) and submit it for review, being very clear about the fact that there is a previous discussion about it. If the reviewer decides to approve the draft, a disambiguation page could be created for the films. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 15:43, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Okay, I am creating a draft page titled Yalgaar. Thanks KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 16:12, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
But, it takes how much time to review the draft. KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Conflict of interest report
I have just seen a COI noticeboard report which you posted on 14 March, concerning Randy-bigham and Gjsfca. Unfortunately the report was archived without anyone else having responded. (It is now at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 170#Self-published books used as sources in various articles.) I totally agree with your concerns. Neither of the accounts has edited since the date of your report, apart from one irrelevant talk page edit by Randy-bigham, but both of them have edited irregularly, so it's entirely likely that they may come back. If you do see any more from them, please feel welcome to contact me if you wish to, and I will consider whether there's anything I think should be done. In the meanwhile, I would not object to removal of the self-promotional references, but obviously some others might. JBW (talk) 20:13, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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After your warning, vandalism still continues.
Hi Bonadea, After your warned this user over here , he/she went over to Hindi Wikipedia and is vandalising the same few pages and has been involved in edit war since months and is still doing it continuosly! I've even made complaints in the past but since most of the administrators are in-active, I need your assistance over taking strict actions against that user. Do check Users edit history over here. Help with this matter. Thanks.HinduKshatrana (talk) 12:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Vidar Halldorsson's article
Hello!
I have a few questions regarding the problems with the article, after I read the guide rules, and compared the article to other ones from scholars, including other teachers in Iceland.
I understand the problem with references, but as the article stands now (when you reviewed it), most references are not primary, they come from accounts that can be verified, such as news and media outlets worldwide. In the same note, I've seen other articles where the only reference is the individual's personal page from their respective universities, a page that, in turn, links to external references, such as peer reviews, releases, news coverage etc. This was my initial take on this article, but it was rejected for that. Thus, I went on to write a short resume of the references, which is now being deemed as "talking too much about Viðar's theory being applied to sports", rather than Viðar himself. Which sounds counter-intuitive, given that a scholar's / teacher's theory intertwines with their personal life experience and thoughts. Again, when I wrote an article that did not focus as heavily on his theory, it was pushed back due to a lack of relevance... Now I prove the relevance and it's denied because of that?
The (always subjective) neutral point of view and the erasure of the "doctor" is easily done, but it will achieve me nothing unless the fact that I have used many reliable and non-primary sources all of which demonstrate how far his theory has traveled is addressed and recognized.
The "current works" was sourced, before, by the university's (University of Iceland) page, I took that down because it was deemed a "primary source".
That said, after following the guidelines of wikipedia, using reliable sources and so on, I'm at a loss on what to do; specially given that other wikipedia articles regarding academics (both Icelandic and English) seem to have been accepted with references that hark back to personal websites, as mentioned before. Are rules different depending on the person? Or the country the wikipedia is set in?
Complaint
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.JOrb (talk) 15:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Gauche
It's probably gauche to leave this on ANI, so I might drop it here if that's okay with you, bonadea (feel free to remove if not, ofc): *someone* isn't getting bullied; they're picking a fight, then losing that fight. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Lord of little stambridge
Hi, I fail to see how the references dont talk about the lordship. I also fail to see how one individual can stop the creation of a page due to there own beleifs.
further more I can explain the so called 'Sneakiness' the user that i had created it with in the beginning EvWills stopped helping with edits and i thought it better to ask him delete it so I could start a-new i dont know if thats what i should have done or not but thats what i did. many thanks, FredBensen (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:47, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Ramdas Padhye
Hi,
The article has been written neutrally keeping the guidelines in mind. It describes his work in detail and is informative.Since I am new to wikipedia, I request you to please rewrite the article as the article is about Ramdas Padhye who is an internationally acclaimed ventriloquist and puppeteer. Also the article is still in the development stages so I request you to remove the speedy deletion tag from the article as others can improve the article and make it better. This article was deleted several times. If someone can improve the article it will help the community to know more about the artiste.
Indiapuppet (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Indiapuppet: There is no deletion tag (speedy or otherwise) on Draft: Ramdas Padhye. The draft is not neutrally written, and so it cannot be accepted as an article at this time, but you can edit it in order to improve it. Note that every single section (and almost every sentence) of the draft is promotionally written. In addition, the references have to be fixed to include at least a minimum of information, and the titles of the references have to be the actual source titles. I have edited a few of the references to show what needs to be done. --bonadea contributions talk 15:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: Thanks for the help. I will keep on improving the article. However if you or some experienced editors can edit this article it would be great. It's difficult to write an article in a neutral way for me as I have tried to refer several articles to write this article. Hope you understand that it's difficult to write an article in one go and get approved keeping wiki guidelines in mind. Hope someone can improve the article. Indiapuppet (talk) 15:07, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: I have tried to change the references as per your comment. It was very hard work. Also I have tried to remove many things in the article which might read like an advertisement. I have tried to write the article in a neutral way and changed certain lines to give as much information as possible. Can you please go through it? I will submit it again for review. If possible please do make changes in the article if you find any problems with the article. Indiapuppet (talk) 13:54, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Avinash Nanda page
Hi,
As per the message received from you, I am not getting paid for writing the article. I am doing it on my own free will with data collected from various sources on the net.
Please do let me know if the changes I have done to the article meets up with your suggestions.
Thanks,
John Jonivestal (talk) 18:51, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Are you I added source of 2 different museum? I think both are same museum. Blackfishes (talk) 08:42, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- This source, which is from 2017, says that the Philatelic Museum is located "on the first floor of the General Post Office of Bangalore" and provides this map link. This source says that the Museum of Communication or Sandesha is located on Museum Road, and this source and this source say the same thing; Google Maps locates it at the Museum Road Post Office. In addition, the Museum of Communication/Sandesha was opened in 2019, according to the sources, so it can't be the same one as the Philatelic Museum that was reviewed in 2017. --bonadea contributions talk 08:59, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Regarding the edit you reverted on Souhardya De
@Bonadea: Dear Bonadea, I saw the edit that you reverted on Souhardya De. I understand your concern but it is to be taken in mind that the thing has been reported not by a private media but by a media house that belongs to the Government of India. Declining that is like not accepting the fact as stated by the Government. I have a better suggestion for this. Why not keep that but add a ‘need more citations’ so that other editors might also be made aware to addd a reference whenever one pops up? Thanks and have a good day, Snehashis6577 (talk) 20:23, 7 July 2021 (UTC)Snehashis6577
- Absolutely not. That would be against important Wikipedia policies. The source is only repeating claims made by the person (including an insult directed at the Governor of Kentucky and its Secretary of State!) so it is not independent. United News of India is not a government news service, and it would make no differece if it were. --bonadea contributions talk 21:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
@Bonadea: See, I just saw your message today. Why would I be interested in putting promotional things? ofcourse there exists independent corroborating sources for this article. I’m adding it back again with other sources, keeping the United News of India as well. I took that because UNI is a trusted source in India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snehashis6577 (talk • contribs)
- 17, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- No, there are no independent sources at this point. This, which you added a few hours after it had been published is not independent, and I can't help noticing that the text of the UNI press release has changed since the first time you used it as a reference, a week ago. I find no other sources that mention the purported colonelcy. Please do not add the claim again; if actual independent sources report on it, the information could be added, but since you are clearly affiliated with De, you should not edit the article about him directly. I do not know why you would be interested in adding promotional text, I only notice that you are doing it, persistently, and with a single focus. --bonadea contributions talk 09:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Untoward behaviour
Hi on Ramiz King article you removed an article saying it was double used, you removed a impactful article for no apparent reason? Why? It was not used twice? There was a Deccan herald and Deccan chronicle and being an ex high level editor I too know that Deccan chronicle was a better reliable option than anything but you choose to remove the reliable one. Someone needs to look into your edits frankly. I’m taking it up to tea house. Godlypresence (talk) 15:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Godlypresence: Hi there and thanks for assuming good faith. All of us are here to improve the encyclopedia. What you might not have realised is that two of the sources are the same text – exactly the same. This is not unusual, since press releases are released in order to be published by different newspaper. For Wikipedia, it is important to make sure that we don't accidentally use the same source more than once. If you have good reason to use
Deccanheralddeccanchronicle.com instead of mid-day.com, that is not a problem. Just make sure that you don't include both of them. Thanks! --bonadea contributions talk 16:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)- Correcting myself – it is the Chronicle that is identical to mid-day.com, and Herald published a (slightly) different press release. --bonadea contributions talk 21:08, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi I believe Deccan chronicle is total different text? It mentions Ramiz being Afghanistan’s first reality tv star and you keep removing that? Why is that? When that’s his notability factor? It’s clearly of not the same exact text. Do you realise that? Positiveilluminati (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Positiveilluminati:/Godlypresence, please use one account only to post comments. Could you please double-check the sources? This version of the article had one Deccan Chronicle reference called "Ramiz King Is The Young Star of Television", and one Deccan Herald reference called "The Inspirational Journey Of Ramiz King Contestent of Mtv Love School S4". Both of them are press releases, but they are not the same one. However, the press release published in the Deccan Chronicle was also published in mid-day.com, "Meet Ramiz King, the content creator turned television celebrity". I removed the Deccan Chronicle source, since the same press release should never be used more than once – one and the same press release can be published by ten different papers, but that wouldn't mean we have ten different sources! You restored it, and have since removed the Deccan Herald source. Removing the Herald press release is fine, it is a very poor source, but the article now has two identical sources and that is not fine. Both Chronicle and mid-day.com make the same claim about him being the first person in Afghanistan to participate in a reality TV show. Wikipedia cannot make that claim in its own voice since the source is a press release, but that is a different matter. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 21:08, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- About him being "Afghanistan's first reality TV star", that is provably incorrect. --bonadea contributions talk 21:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Talk page comments
Hello Bonadea, as I mentioned at Talk:John Carroll (archbishop of Baltimore), please do not edit or remove other users' comments on talk pages in the article namespace. WP:TPOC lays out the few circumstances in which it is appropriate to remove another user's talk page comments and none of those grounds was applicable there. Rarely does a user take kindly to such behavior, hence the clear policy prohibition. I fully agree that that user's comments were nonsense and would never be able to be included in the article, but alas that does not meet the policy on removal. Cheers, Ergo Sum 00:49, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- I am not a new editor and I am familiar with the guideline (not policy) WP:TPOC, including the bullet point that says
Comments made by a sock with no replies may simply be removed with an appropriate edit summary.
Are you familiar with WP:BANREVERT, which is what I referred to in my ES? The user is a sockpuppet. They were blocked as a sockpuppet before my second revert. Please do not respond further here; I will not interfere with the talk page again. --bonadea contributions talk 07:22, 11 July 2021 (UTC)- You are right that since they were shown to be a sock, their comment can now be removed. Thanks for your patience. Apologies if I came across brusquely. Ergo Sum 14:20, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
It's looks like you have gone through a rough few days and I admire your ability to carry on when you are being targeted unfairly simply for abiding by Wikipedia policies. Here's hoping for a sunnier summer! Liz Read! Talk! 01:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC) |
@Liz: Thank you! I appreciate this very much – I don't always feel like a paragon of good humour, so it is good to see that I don't come across as overly curmudgeonly. Although I am scatterbrained at times – I thought I had replied to you yesterday – but I try to pass that off as lovable eccentricity. Ahem. Wishing you a great summer, also! --bonadea contributions talk 07:12, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft:IGI Global
For Draft:IGI Global you write:
- Multiple references have been added, but almost none of them is independent and so WP:CORPDEPTH is still not met.
Could you say which ones are independent in your view and why these are not sufficient together with the other mentioned articles, thank you? —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 18:41, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Jpbowen: thanks for your message. In the current version of the draft, there are 14 sources, and the ones added by you are sources 4-8. My library does not offer access to sources 4 and 5 (The Charleston Advisor and Journal of Biological Systems), though the preview of the latter makes me wonder how relevant the source is to an article about the publisher.
- Sources 6 and 7, College & Research Libraries News and Library Journal, appear to be independent: they are signed by journal staff and are not written like press releases. Source 6 is very brief, but source 7 is a bit more substantial, and is one of the stronger sources in the draft, to my mind. I did remove a couple of press releases published in Library Journal before I reviewed the draft, since the information they supported was
IGI Global and its activities are covered in multiple professional publications.
and to my mind, "covered by professional publications" does not include press releases – and per WP:SPS, they don't count towards notability.
- Source 8, Pakistan & Gulf Economist, is in fact a press release (it is here), but it is independent of IGI Global, since it was issued by Usman Institute of Technology. However, when I look at it again it does not support the claim that IGI Global has been covered by professional publications. The publisher is not the topic of the text, so there is no actual coverage of it. Furthermore, Pakistan & Gulf Economist is not a professional publication, and neither is Journal of Biological Systems. (That is, JBS is of course professional in the fields of biology and medicine, and P&GE is arguably professional within business, but if the claim to notability for IGI Global is that professional publications have written about it, it follows that those are professional within fields relevant to academic publishing – though library science qualifies, I believe.) I have not removed those references, but I don't believe that they work towards WP:CORPDEPTH for the publisher.
- Sorry about the wall of text. I hope this makes sense. --bonadea contributions talk 08:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your copious reply. In your view, is IGI Global inherently an "unnotable" company in Wikipedia terms? I.e., that there are not enough acceptable references to justify inclusion? If yes, there is no point in further editing. If no, there is. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 11:33, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Jpbowen: I'm not sure, to be honest. I wouldn't think so, but I could be wrong. Sorry not to be of more help! Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 13:54, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Faisal Malik
Hi I'm new to wikipedia so i'm not sure if this isn't the process to get in contact with you. I am the creator of Faisal Malik (Fighter)'s wiki page. You said that we need sources in the infobox, early life and personal life section however we got all that information directly from him as there is no sources regarding that info. Is there any way around this that you are aware of? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Be.Sport (talk • contribs) 12:56, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Be.Sport: thank you for your message. There are a couple of important points here. First, since you are in contact with Malik and seem to be editing on his behalf, you have a conflict of interest, which you should disclose on your user page. (I'll add some information about this on your user talk page, too.) You say above that "we got all that information" – who is "we"? Note that each Wikipedia user account can only represent one individual, not a group of people, and it is very important that only one person uses each account. Secondly, I'm afraid all information in a Wikipedia article does have to have a reliable published source, and this is particularly important when it comes to biographies about living people. Put simply, information that has not already been published by independent reliable sources should not be added to Wikipedia articles. It might seem odd that a person shouldn't be considered a reliable source about his own life, but the point is that as Wikipedia readers, we have to be able to verify the information. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 14:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Oilite article
Bonadea,
I was contacted last week by an attorney in Pennsylvania who represents Oilite about concerns his client (Oilite) has with the Wikipedia article about their product. Most importantly, he noted that Oilite is a brand of bearing, not an alloy, as the current article describes it. He had previously edited the page as an IP editor, but his version was uncited and certainly from the company's point of view. You reverted his edits on a couple different occasions, and I certainly would have done the same thing if I had seen his changes on my watchlist.
I had a nice hour-long conversation with the attorney today, in which I explained the basics of Wikipedia and how policy affects articles like the Oilite one, focusing largely on Wikipedia's trademark, neutral point of view, and citation policies. I explained to him why his edits were reverted, and he mentioned that, while he was trying to fix a factual error with the article, he did not know about the citation or NPOV policies. I also discussed how conflict of interest factors into editing articles like these.
I would like to help fix the fundamental problem with the page, namely that it incorrectly describes Oilite (both in the lede and throughout much of the article) as an alloy instead of a bearing. It looks like most of the article is well written and well cited, especially the "Composition" and "Types" sections, although the attorney expressed some concern that there are factual errors in the former and the latter is incomplete. He and I also discussed the possibility of creating a new "History" section based on the second paragraph in the lede (which really should be a separate "History" section if it can be fleshed out), but he is going to check the factual accuracy of a company web page about Oilite's history first and get back to me about it. He is also going to search for more third-party sources about Oilite and additionally expressed an interest in potentially uploading photos of Oilite bearings to help illustrate the article.
I wanted to reach out to you with all this information to be completely transparent about any and all edits I make to the Oilite article. We need to keep in mind that he is coming at it with the interests of his client (Oilite) primarily in mind (thus the potential for a conflict of interest) while we are focused on the quality, integrity, and usefulness of Wikipedia articles. However, one thing that was clear from my discussion with him today is that he is fully supportive of a factually correct, neutral, and well cited article on Oilite, "warts and all".
Thanks for everything you do as a Wikipedian, and happy editing!
Michael Barera (talk) 04:08, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Michael Barera: thank you for your message! It makes sense to rephrase the introduction a little to make it clear that oilite is a type of bearing, invented in the 1930s; the sources don't contradict that, and I have looked it up to the best of my abilities, and that seems to be correct. As I understand it, the company is not making any legal threats so it shouldn't be a problem from that perspective, but it makes me pretty uncomfortable that they think it is at all appropriate for them to contact Wikipedia editors! I'm not sure if this should be mentioned at WP:COIN or maybe some other board, but as long as any edits are supported by sources, and don't advertise the company, there shouldn't really be a problem. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: Thank you! I've made my first edit to the Oilite article, improving and citing the lede, creating a separate "History" section, and trying to make it clear Oilite is a bearing as opposed to a material. I've been transparent about the attorney contacting me in my edit summary and my intentions in making the edit. If you think this is not enough, I'd be happy to note this article and my involvement with it on WP:COIN. Thanks again! Michael Barera (talk) 04:58, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
A Doll's House
RE this decline I managed to track down the 2004 Times review and the Sunday Times review of A Doll's House using Newsbank, so it definitely exists. I think what probably happened is ye checked the English edition when the review is in the Scottish edition CiphriusKane (talk) 14:16, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- @CiphriusKane: Thanks! You can't exactly blame me, given that there was absolutely no indication of that, and almost no information about the source in the first place. :-) I did look up the Sunday Times review, though I can only read the first couple of paragraphs since my library's access doesn't cover the Sunday Times – it's interesting that the draft's creator, who I believe is based in China, has access to it and also to The Times Scotland! I'm afraid your links above don't work unless you have an account at NLS, which I don't, and my library doesn't offer access to Newsbank (it accesses The Times through Gale). Anyway, I appreciate your help in tracking this down. --bonadea contributions talk 14:36, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Some baklava for you!
I added a fascinating comment on the VFD "Talk" page :) Follow.your.inner.heroes.2.the.work.you.love.2021 (talk) 09:22, 23 July 2021 (UTC) |
Pete Hawkes edit
i am not connected to this subject and the assumption is incorrect. I am new to this, being first user. Rather than just knocking me down,explain to me what I have to do as you obviously don't believe me and so provide assistance rather than being a bully — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mysteriousmusicman (talk • contribs) 09:30, 23 July 2021 (UTC (UTC)
- @Mysteriousmusicman: thank you for your message. I can only repeat what other editors have already said, here and here as well as in several edit summaries seen in the edit history of Pete Hawkes: the template does not say that you have a conflict of interest. --bonadea contributions talk 11:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Corrections and grammar editing.
Hi Wikipedia user Bonadea, if I recalled two days ago that I was subjected to an IP user named "49.177.30.125", then I am NOT editing articles with a grammar revision. As I said before, you said in my previous talk, "Grammar edits," "the other edits changed the phrasing from one correct version to another, equally correct version, but with an edit summary claiming that there was a grammar error". Now would you please tell me? ExpandD2003 (talk) 09:34, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- @ExpandD2003: thank you for your message. I am sorry, but I don't understand your question. What is it you would like me to tell you? --bonadea contributions talk 13:15, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Correction grammars that's not yet done. ExpandD2003 (talk) 04:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- @ExpandD2003: I still don't quite understand what you mean, but as I said on your user talk page, User talk:ExpandD2003#Grammar edits, there are many things you can do in Wikipedia even if you avoid making grammar related edits. If you are not sure what the problem was with any of the edits I linked to in my post, please be specific about which one(s) you are wondering about. --bonadea contributions talk 17:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Bonadea,
Greetings,
I have made the edits. Please take a look.
Thanks,
Yourwikibuddy (talk) 17:41, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 45
Books & Bytes
Issue 45, May – June 2021
- Library design improvements continue
- New partnerships
- 1Lib1Ref update
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:05, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Understanding Ukrainian
Bonadea, I understand you that I should not repeat my mistakes in the past. But, why you cannot understand the Ukrainian language that I used well? I have to teach you the Ukrainian language. Could you please study Ukrainian from me and understand Ukrainian properly?! Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamdaniel864 (talk • contribs) 12:58, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Adamdaniel864: thank you for your message. Well, I would of course like to learn Ukrainian, but Wikipedia is not the right place for that, so I'll decline your kind offer. I'm afraid I don't quite understand why you mention Ukrainian here, though. My message to you here had to do with this edit of yours, which was not in Ukrainian. I also reverted another edit you had made, here, but that was not in Ukrainian either. When you edit Wikipedia in the future, please make sure that you include reliable sources for your changes. Several editors have asked you to do so, and that is why I placed a warning on your user talk page. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:48, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
How do I include reliable sources for my changes
In fact, I don't know how to include reliable sources for my changes done in a page. Can you please help me? Sorry, I indeed don't know before this. And may I teach you Ukrainian, Croatian and Slavic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamdaniel864 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- If you look at your user talk page, there are many sections there, posted by different editors, that talk about reliable sources. If you have specific questions about specific articles, you can ask me, or ask at the Teahouse. --bonadea contributions talk 19:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm only already three years active in Wikipedia, so that's why I don't know how to include reliable sources as what you said to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamdaniel864 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- What do you mean? This account is only three months old, and your previous account User:Слов'янська is four months old. --bonadea contributions talk 19:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Навіщо ти ніколи не розумієш українську
Привіт сьогодні. Навіщо ти ніколи не розумієш українську мову, яку я говорю? Я навчився українську протягом одного року до двох років. Я навчу вас багато чого про українську мову, а також болгарську, хорватську та іншу слов'янську мову.
Дякую, я хотів навчитися вас українську, болгарську, хорватську та іншу слов'янську мову. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamdaniel864 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- See below. --bonadea contributions talk 19:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Should I talk and use Ukrainian to you
Bonadea, I early have understand your instruction, please don't be to angry and mad at me, but I have to talk and use Ukrainian when communicating and talking to you to test you about the Ukrainian, Croatian and also other Slavic knowledge. Why you could meet understand Ukrainian that I use? Should I teach you especially Ukrainian, Bulgarian and Croatian and other Slavic languages to you? Should I use Ukrainian or Slavic more than English when talking and dealing with you, as I'm not so happy?
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamdaniel864 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- I am not angry, but you should not use Ukrainian or any other Slavic language when you communicate at the English-language Wikipedia. I understand that you are learning Ukrainian and perhaps other Slavic languages as well, and that you want to practise your language skills; unfortunately, you have apparently tried to edit Croatian Wikipedia in spite of not knowing the language, which is why you were blocked there. As I am a linguist by profession, I naturally think that it is a good idea to learn and practise new languages, but you should not use Wikipedia for that purpose.
- If you have other questions, please do not start new sections on this talk page for them. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 19:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Are you indeed being angry to me after I remove myself from old wrongdoings
Are you indeed still angry to me after I remove myself from old wrongdoings in the past? If indeed, I'll remove myself from Wikipedia, and I'm not happy at all because you want to disgrace me with the Ukrainian, Croatian and other Slavic knowledge.
- (talk page stalker) Stop pestering Bonadea, Adamdaniel864. Did you even notice that she just said "If you have other questions, please do not start new sections on this talk page for them"? I'll block you for harassment if you keep repeating yourself and/or starting more sections here. Bishonen | tålk 09:43, 31 July 2021 (UTC).
- @Adamdaniel864: I'm not angry, and I was not angry before! Lots of people make mistakes on Wikipedia, especially when they are new users. That is OK, as long as they do not keep doing the same thing when other editors have asked them to stop. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:11, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
My recent submission
Hello and thank you for your recent submission to my article. The oage is low currently in draft space and I need to incubate the page. I have some reliable sources I can add to my page I am just not sure how to format it all correctly , I have been seeking help through the help center pages but can’t seem to figure it out. Any ideas? Thank you Wizkid44 (talk) 19:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Wizkid44: thank you for your message, and I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner. The reason I moved the article about Kyle Cool to draftspace at Draft:Kyle Cool is not to do with layout or formatting, but with a couple of fundamental problems to do with sources, level of detail, and copyright issues (quite a lot of the text is copied straight or with minimal rephrasing from an external website, and that text has to be removed stright away.) I'll post a comment on the draft. --bonadea contributions talk 19:00, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you ! Helpful! Wizkid44 (talk) 06:42, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I used your feedback as a guide and found some much better sources and correctly cited them now! Thanks again for the help and please let me know what else may seem to need some fixing. Wizkid44 (talk) 07:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Wizkid44: Hi again! It looks like the copyright issues are fixed, which is great! I'm afraid the draft still looks like a professional CV with almost no information about the person, though. Another remaining problem is the fact that the text has almost no complete sentences, and somebody like me who knows absolutely nothing about American football can't understand most of the "Professional career" section, which is full of abbreviations and jargon and details about individual games Cool has played. You are not writing only for the football fans here! :-) A good way of understanding what a Wikipedia article should look at is to read existing articles, in particular articles that have achieved "Good article" status, or even "Featured article" (which means that they are considered among the best articles on Wikipedia). Otto Graham and Scott Zolak are examples of Featured articles about American football players; you can find a lot of Good articles here. I'm of course not saying that you are expected to write an article that could become a Good article immediately! But if you look at some of those articles you'll get a sense of (for instance) how much detail about individual seasons is appropriate, and also what other kind of information should be included in a biography.
- About sources: I'm not sure if lastwordonsports.com is a reliable source, but I can't say for certain that it's not. You could ask about that at WikiProject College football (which seems to be a lot more active than WikiProject American football). In any case, you need to show in the article which information has been taken from which source, by adding citation markers in the text. Here is a good basic guide to citing sources, and this is another one. The link you added to https://lastwordonsports.com/tag/kyle-cool/ is not a source in itself, since it simply lists articles about Cool at lastwordonsports.
- Final question (for now): are you writing this article on behalf of Cool himself? If so, please read this information, and in particular this information in case you are being paid to edit Wikipedia. The fact that your draft seems to have info that's not in any of the sources, such as his birth date, could mean that you have been getting info straight from him – but I haven't read the sources that carefully so I could have missed it. Hope this helps! --bonadea contributions talk 10:22, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Wow thank you for such a detailed response it’s appreciated! And I am a reporter for arena football who has had many interviews with Kyle so I have asked him tons of questions in the past so I do know some about him. Also I see now what you mean with the citing of sources, I am still very novice at that aspect and will look at the info you provided as a guide again! Wizkid44 (talk) 15:15, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Alha Udal Banafar belonged to Ahir caste not rajput
Banafar is Ahir, Alha Udal Banafar belonged to Ahir caste His father Dasraj belonged to Banafar Ahir caste of Baxar, his origin was due to living in the forest, he has no relation with Rajput caste, the government of India has also accepted that he belonged to Ahir caste Banafar is the gotra of Ahir caste. Archaeological survey of India proof has been done. They were Ahirs. Just think if they were Rajputs then why would the Indian government write them as Ahirs. Banafar are only Ahirs. Prithvi Raj Chauhan to fight with the Rajput caste. Alha Udal, his father belonged to the Banafar Ahir caste of Baxar. Ahirs were, Rajput caste people jealous of Yadav Ahir caste, so by showing false evidence they are trying unsuccessfully to change the caste of Aalha Udal, please try to reach the right information to the people and it becomes your duty to reach the right information to the people. Uday singh jadeja (talk) 22:01, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Uday singh jadeja: Please use the article talk pages to present your proposed changes. You can't remove existing well-sourced information and replace it with contradicting info, and you can't just insert urls to Google Books as references. This is explained on your user talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 07:40, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
How can I start Wikipedia
If my corrections is a mistake, what can I do. Please Wikipedia user Bonadea, this makes no sense. Where can I start Wikipedia? ExpandD2003 (talk) 23:32, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Replied on your user talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 09:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
I agree. I can't edit. Well, that would be great too. ExpandD2003 (talk) 12:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Well, thanks for asking; you're the only editor who revised many articles from previous edits. I thought you're from Sweden. ExpandD2003 (talk) 12:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Hey why u removed Discography from Bhuvan Bam article how that was spam? He have released some songs on his official YouTube channel, I see you're removing my lots of edit from articles why are u removing my edits? I don't have freedom to edit Wikipedia pages? Menu maharaj (talk) 04:52, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Menu maharaj: If you are being paid or you have a conflict of interest, then no, you don't have the freedom to edit Wikipedia pages about subjects with which you have a conflict of interest. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:34, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Hey :@Anachronist: I haven't conflict of interest in any Wikipedia page I just wanted to improve articles. Wikipedia editing is just my hobby. Menu maharaj (talk) 07:41, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Your edits have been promotional and are basically indistinguishable from paid editing.
- @Bonadea: you stated in this comment that a COI had been disclosed. Where? ~Anachronist (talk) 07:47, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- (this is my user talk page, no need to ping me :-) ) Here. In the following edit, they also added a COI for CarryMinati, and then they removed both disclosures. Regardless, their claims of not having a COI lost all credibility some time ago. --bonadea contributions talk 07:54, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I won't block him or topic-ban him unless further disruption continues. With a COI, he needs to make use of draft space and edit requests, not main space edits. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:57, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! It is good to have another set of eyes on this. I think it's pretty likely this user is a sock, but will need to look more closely at their contributions – I started doing that but got involved in chasing back some nameless horrors unrelated to Wikipedia and now it's suddenly tomorrow. Oh well, at least the world is (temporarily) safe from fish men. Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 22:28, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sigh. I envy that distraction you had. I miss my gaming group. We've sort of gone our separate ways, and since then I started a family and before I knew how fast time could fly by, my child is now 12... old enough to introduce him to D&D and CoC, if I can ever find the time between my work and his extracurricular stuff. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
UPE
For my own edification, how does a user determine that a page was created by someone for undisclosed paid editing? Thank you in advance. Wordslicer (talk)
- @Wordslicer: That will depend on which page it is, which user(s) are involved, and other factors as well – there is no general response. Why do you ask? --bonadea contributions talk 22:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Just curious as I see people mentioning it on your page, and it has me curious. Appreciate your quick response. Wordslicer (talk)
Noom
Hi there, I just want to call your attention to the responses I left for you on "talk" page for Noom. Many thanks. --PetesPizza (talk) 21:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi again, I left a few more comments for you on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Noom. Thanks. --PetesPizza (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: Hi Bonadea, I'm sorry to trouble you. It's been three weeks since I left my latest responses on Noom's "talk" page, and I thought, since we've had several discussions there, that I'd ping you. The outstanding issues are (1) the lede and (2) the BBB rating. Thanks for your willingness to engage. PetesPizza (talk) 00:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Related to your edit - "List of web directories"
Hi, The page says List of web directories... I included one and linked it in the external link section. Why was that inappropriate and the other link is fine? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imzahra18 (talk • contribs) 08:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Imzahra18: Thank you for your message. I'm not sure I can explain it any better than the guideline I linked to from your user talk page, but if that was unclear, I will try. The article List of web directories does not list all web directories in the world, instead it lists Wikipedia articles about notable web directories. There is no Wikipedia article about the directory you linked to. An "external links" section is not a link repository, but a place for a (very small and select) number of links that add information about the topic as a whole. A link that is relevant to the topic "web directories" may be appropriate to add there, but a link to an individual web directory is not appropriate. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 09:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: Thanks, got it.
Expansion of Draft:Razorpay
Hi Bonadea, I was going through the Draft:Razorpay article when I saw that the article has a long history of issues. I have some notable articles from reliable sources, but I am a bit confused if it would be a good idea to contribute to the Draft of Razorpay. Considering the history of the page and your assessment of the content so far, do you think it is a good idea to expand this article?
Canse34 (Talk|E-Mail|Contrib) 11:25, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
The article Mon Phagun was sourced by reliable sources. So why did you moved the pagr from mainspace? I want to know. Zarif1511 (talk) 06:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Delete account
Hello, I wanted to delete account. I've searched how to do on net and obeyed the orders, I think something gone wrong. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billie Brownstone (talk • contribs) 13:08, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Billie Brownstone: thanks for your message. Wikipedia user accounts can't be deleted, I'm afraid. There is a little more information about that on the Username policy page. One alternative is to request courtesy vanishing; this page tells you what that is, and how you request it. However, most people who wish to quit Wikipedia simply stop using their account. The "Retired" template you put on your user page tells other users that you have retired, but you don't need to place it in order to retire from Wikipedia. I hope this helps. --bonadea contributions talk 15:39, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Regarding Deletion of BXZY
Hi bonadea I totally understand the reason behind the deletion of the article. Yes, I had disclosed the COI since I am part of the Artist's management team and sorry I did not know that we cannot move the drafts created by ourselves directly. Thank you for the link you posted on my talk was able to understand the functioning in a better sense. I'd also ensure I have more reliable citations about the artist that proves his notability. But I had one question, I had not saved the draft anywhere else and directly edited on Wikipedia. Is there any way I could retrieve the content so when I am to post the draft for review again I don't have to re write every thing from scratch? It would be super helpful if you help me with that. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bxzyforever (talk • contribs) 14:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Update : Figured it out myself thank you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bxzyforever (talk • contribs) 14:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Bxzyforever: Good :-) I would not have been able to help you with this anyway, since I can't see deleted contributions. Note that to get a draft accepted as an article, it has to have reliable, secondary and independent sources – the deleted article only had sources such as the artist's own Twitter account, and links to Spotify and Apple Music. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 17:20, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
I think you're wrong
Technically, I am not vandalizing, although I am not sure what made you think that. As you must know, I suffer from rejectitis, a disease where Wikipedians reject me. I am not a criminal. Why do you all have to treat me like this. I am not a toy that you could reject.
For falsely accusing me of vandalizing, you are going to my blacklist. I have had enough people torturing me like a toy.
Doctorine Dark (talk) 06:44, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- I told you exactly what the issue was. You had been told that it is not OK to edit other people's user pages. If all you did was fixing grammar errors, another gentle notice would have sufficed, but you added the user to a category, which is completely inappropriate. --bonadea contributions talk 06:49, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Sustainable Transport Midlands
Hi there,
I am the original author of the Sustainable Transport Midlands article. Thanks for the feedback you left, it was particularly useful. STM have received a lot of publicity, especially in rail-based publishers since the article was written, at the time with a lot of self-published sources. The organisation was not set for Wikipedia at the time, but I believe it now is, so I'm going to attempt to rewrite the article and request for publication again.
Cheers.
94.197.253.213 (talk) 22:15, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Article on Princess Surah Olayemi Animashaun
@Bonadea: Hello, I am Abatan Yusuf from Epe, Lagos Nigeria. About the article on my draft which you declined on the 20th of August titled Princess Surah Olayemi Animashaun. She is the newly elected Executive Chairman/Mayor of Epe Local Government Area of Lagos Nigeria. I have worked and corrected the few things you pointed out and would like you to go through and approve to be published. Your feedback would be highly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yusufabatan2 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Yusufabatan2: thank you for your message. I don't know whether a chairman of a LGA is automatically notable. On the one hand, it is the third level of government and there are 774 LGAs (according to the sources), and in another country that would not be a notable position; on the other hand, in a very populous country, it is much more likely that the highest elected politician even at the LGA level would be notable. The question is whether there is in fact significant coverage in independent and secondary sources about her; this source is fairly in-depth, but it is based closely on what she said in an interview, so it is not quite secondary. It is quite possible that more will be written about her while she is in office, so that she becomes more clearly notable. You could consult the editors at WikiProject Nigeria who might have a better grasp of which sources are useful, than I have.
- However, there are some other remaining issues with the draft as well. Please note that all information, especially in a biography of a living person must have a reliable source. There is no source for her birth date or her schooling, and unless that information has been published somewhere, it should not be in the article. Since you have access to information that can't be found in any source, I wonder if you are connected to Animashaun in some way? If so, you should read this information.
- Another issue: when I have been looking for sources now, I've noticed that quite a bit of the text that has a source is very closely based on that source, in particular in the section "As Supervisor for Environment and Tourism". While all information needs a source, it is also important that the text is written in your own words, to avoid copyright concerns. (Wikipedia is American, and they are very strict about avoiding copyright violations.) Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:54, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Request on 00:41:11, 28 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Missbellanash
I've finished re-reading the exceptions for standard notability for musicians, the rationale does state that - based on her notability outside traditional news media - an article on Ms. Broussard (could/would) be eligible under one, two and perhaps even a third condition. There is also an exception for exceptionalism on a different page, although that might seem odd on sight, I suppose it's actually not. Case in point, when her live streamed video to China took place it was an exceptional (event) - where exceptionalism is defined as 'unusual or 'beyond ordinary'.
That wasn't so hard to find, I searched for some other thing long ago and the link was there. I am not excited to make use of 'a claim' for a BLP, but then I don't know why it shouldn't be taken advantage of? If you have any thoughts on this, pro or con, please let me know, and thanks! Missbellanash (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Missbellanash (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just saying hi and thanks for you work on Valerie Broussard. I left comments on the decline page if you want to read it. Cheers! Missbellanash (talk) 00:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Missbellanash (talk) 00:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
-- updatedSkancc (talk) 16:19, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you! I haven't really interacted with Wikipedia for over a decade so I'm still getting to grips with it (as you can no doubt tell). I will look into the things you mentioned and make edits ASAP. There's plenty more to be added about Angelina Pwerle, who is a favourite artist of mine, and I'm looking forward to improving the coverage of her and of Australian Aboriginal art in general. Thanks again Akkeri (talk) 11:35, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Article moved to draft
Hey I saw you moved my article to draft. Can you say the details why it has been done and how to solve খানকির চালে (talk) 17:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Rishton Ka Manjha undraftified by User:Surajvicky023 hours after you moved it to draft. Account created 27 Aug. David notMD (talk) 20:33, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ah! I see you were already aware of this. David notMD (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, but thank you for the heads-up all the same! Pretty... interesting edit summary, too. ("You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.") I'm in the process of adding the new account to the SPI. --bonadea contributions talk 20:36, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ah! I see you were already aware of this. David notMD (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, please solve the problem or tell me how to solve the problem. খানকির চালে (talk) 23:00, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- I am on it. --bonadea contributions talk 23:01, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Thankyou. Please fix it.😊 খানকির চালে (talk) 23:10, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- All fixed. Sockpuppets have been blocked and the draft is once again deleted. This editor doesn't seem to realize that the content of the draft no longer matters. All that matters is the block evasion. The "problem" would be solved if the user would just appeal one block successfully and stick with that one account. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
I
renamed to slow down the off wiki harassment. Please do not connect me. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:52, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, I'm very sorry. I had no idea. It will not happen again. --bonadea contributions talk 22:56, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- No problem. You wouldn't beleive. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:01, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
No offence to be taken
Hi @Bonadea, there was no intention to be uncivilised in any ways, just that every times I see in any ways forms of power abuse like in this case so it seemed to me, It gives me chickenskin, my reaction sometimes could be over-reacted, yet its always well intended and to be a good simple straight forward lesson we can all learn from. The basis of a better world is aa good collaboration, and that start with self love and respect for the work of those who gathered all these aarticles and scrolls translated them and make them public, so that someone without even a knowledge or a hint of whats going on, to reject it with such a bogus unfit reason, it regurgitated me a bit yes! Yet again no bad intentions at all! I am just here to make sure the work done is not in vain, we work hard every day on this! Best Viorel Cosmin Miron
- If you are interested in editing collaboratively, the first step is to listen to your fellow editors, and absolutely not make derogatory comments such as this, this, and your post here. The comment made by Nyanardsan here is perfectly correct, and it would be a good idea for you to read the guideline WP:COI and the policy WP:OWN which Nyanardsan was helpful enough to link to. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 20:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for advice
Thanks for your advice on referencing, and link. Do stay safe
AFRICAN001 (talk) 16:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Dilemma
DFTT or ANI? I don't see any further way to proceed. –Austronesier (talk) 11:47, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Austronesier: That last post of theirs was unpleasant enough that I asked Bishonen to take a look – ANI is such a high-vis place, I'm concerned it will lead to more troll feeding, but at the other hand I suspect that doing nothing will just lead to more badgering. Thank you for trying to keep the conversation there sensible and grounded in reality, and for checking in here, as well. --bonadea contributions talk 11:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Asking Bish for advise was a good idea. Let's see. You can't imagine (or actually I am sure you can) how often I've had to bite my tongue while typing replies. The employer thing looks close to actionable to me, and frankly, I start to believe – irrelevant as it may be for formal action – that we're not dealing with simple good faith CIR here. –Austronesier (talk) 12:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, Bonadea,
I have a question about this page. You did some clean-up on this article, then moved it to Draft space only to later tag it for speedy deletion. Is there a reason you didn't tag it for deletion while it was in main space? Not criticizing, just curious. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:20, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
In this edit you reverted their change to the headings, but you did not revert the content removal. Was that intentional? (To completely undo their changes, you would have to revert to either my latest revision or the revision by GoingBatty from August 31, which are identical.) Thanks, JBL (talk) 11:43, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- I see that you have edited quite a bit over the days since I posted this question -- could you please clarify? If you believe the content removal was reasonable, and you intentionally did not revert, I will defer to your judgement -- but I can't tell whether that's the case. Thanks, JBL (talk) 02:01, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Regarding User page and Article (BitRaser)
Hello,
As advised I have added the COI disclosure on my user page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shujakhan88
(doing this also put me into trouble as I had another account which was not being used by me but with similar COI disclosure. Finding it really really difficult to not appear like thief and the wiki police behind me)
for draft page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:BitRaser
Please if you can guide on which citation to be removed, so that I will remove and it will give me a fair idea on those citation allow, so that I can bring similar credible citations. this page talks about a software that has been widely spoken in the media. But just that I am really newbie to really make sense of right citation.
Please help on this. Thanks
Note: I have been really thrashed on my user page, not because i intend to do something mischievious. It's just that I am caught into my noviceness, my hurry and my impatience. Will try to work on all. Need support!
Shujakhan88 (talk) 12:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 46
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Bir Tawil
Me thinks we need this article semi protected. Know any admins online right now? Masterhatch (talk) 15:01, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
my article on Anna F.Tenney
My article on Anna F. Tenney has been rewritten so many times and reject I am not sure how it is supposed to be written. I read all the help stuff and I am just not getting it. I need help with it, please. Can someone help me re-write and get it published, Anna F. Tenney is a local lady here where I live that has overcome everything to get where she is today. And honestly, a look up to her so does many others. So, when my teacher told us we had to write a Wikipedia article on someone we looked up to Anna was the person I choose. You can search her name on google and see she is known. And she is known on her social media sites as Official Anna Tenney. So please help me get this article written correctly and it goes through to be published. This is a huge part of my grade this semester and I can afford to get a failing grade. Can some help me please — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelT1956 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- @MichaelT1956: First of all, please let your teacher know that the assignment they set for you is not really acceptable – certainly not if you are getting graded on the basis of it. Anna Tenney has paid people in the very recent past to create a Wikipedia page about her, and her name has been spammed across the encyclopedia. It is very clear that she does not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for actors, found here, or for biographies, here. Next, you have added her name to several articles about movies, even though none of the sources mentions her. Why do you believe that she was a scriptwriter or actor in the movies you added her to? --bonadea contributions talk 08:37, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Because Anna Tenney is on IMDb
- @MichaelT1956: please sign your posts. There is a welcome message at the top of your user talk page that explains that you need to sign and how to do it. IMDb is not a reliable source. Never base anything you write in Wikipedia on IMDb.
- Where did you get the text and references you added to the draft? And how can you have taken the picture of Tenney (as you claim you did), which is clearly a selfie, if you are a random schoolkid who heard about her? --bonadea contributions talk 20:27, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
I got all my information from the newspaper article written on Tenney, she verified the Amazon Influencer page, her Tiktok account, and the picture from of Tenney's social media platforms. https://www.mtairynews.com/news/96621/using-social-media-for-good https://www.amazon.com/shop/anna.tealdragon?listId=3K1I7H9DU18E1 Tenney also has a fan merchandise line out. Here is the site : https://my-store-11709962.creator-spring.com/ https://www.tiktok.com/@official_anna_tenney?from=sw&lang=en
Also, the statement was made that Tenney paid people in the past to write an article for her, Well I believe you should know that Tenney is loved by many in her hometown. People like myself look up to her. I know that there is someone or many people you ( those writing Wikipedia articles look up to and love seeing their article on here. Well, that is how I and many others feel about Tenney. Even though this is my grade I picked Tenney because is the person I look up to and want to be like. So can you or someone help me write and get this article on Wiki please?
- NOTE that going on others social media pages to down load a picture is something my people do **
05:27, 27 September 2021 (UTC)05:27, 27 September 2021 (UTC)~~§MichaelT1956 (talk) 05:27, 27 September 2021 (UTC)user Michael
Message from Skancc
I am not a paid, I don’t know many things in Wikipedia i am learning in every edits, I know to add citation and publish kindly guide me--Skancc (talk) 17:15, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
I reverted priyadarshini(singer)article because I had added many reliable sources as citation. I took a reference from the related articles like Bhuvana Chandra, Anuradha Bhat, K. S. Chithra, Chinmayi and many others and I added movies, songs and other details how they have cited . Kindly guide me and show me a good example of wiki article which is well cited and written definitely I’ll try to follow that and edit in future. Iam new to Wikipedia, iam not aware of all the wiki policies, iam still learning kindly guide me.--Skancc (talk) 17:15, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- Responded on your user talk page, with some comments about your other accounts. You are in fact not a new editor, and you are certainly connected to Priyadarshini. Using Wikipedia as a promotional platform is not allowed. --bonadea contributions talk 19:33, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
October 2021
Hello, I noticed that you and some other Wikipedia users are continuously targeting me that I do disruptive editing. So, please tell me what is my fault and how can I make it right? I will be waiting for your message. - Warsh Kumar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warsh Kumar (talk • contribs) 10:08, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Responding on your user talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 10:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Editing comments on talk pages
Hi, I am wondering if editors can be notified of grammar mistakes and can they change the mistakes themselves? I thought the spelling and punctuation should be correct, especially in an encyclopedia. 73.167.238.120 (talk) 16:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- There is no system that alerts users when they make grammar errors, spelling errors, or punctuation errors. (Those are three different things, with a little bit of overlap.) If a user consistently uses very nonstandard spelling or punctuation in discussions, other editors might ask them to start conforming to standard English language rules, and if a user makes so many language errors that it's hard to understand them, they might be advised to edit Wikipedia in a language they have a better command of. Or they might be prevented from editing in the mainspace, in case they keep adding language errors to encyclopedia articles. But talk pages are not encyclopedia articles, and like the talk page guideline says it is simply better to avoid changing other people's posts, even to fix their errors. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 16:33, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- If the edits were not vandalism, and you are directing me to talk page guidelines, why is there a vandalism logo? 73.167.238.120 (talk) 19:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "vandalism logo". Where did you see it? I posted a (templated) caution about editing talk page posts, and then removed the phrase "may appear to other editors to be vandalism". It is part of the template, because changing other people's talk page posts can often be seen as vandalism, but I didn't think that applied here. --bonadea contributions talk 16:07, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- [8] The logo in the link is what I was referring to. It looks like you confirmed there was no vandalism. 73.167.238.120 (talk) 22:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Right. That is just an "information" logo. There is a difference between vandalism and disruptive editing. Vandalism is intentional while disruptive editing is done in good faith. However, disruptive editing can also lead to a block, if an editor continues to edit disruptively after being asked to stop. --bonadea contributions talk 11:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- [8] The logo in the link is what I was referring to. It looks like you confirmed there was no vandalism. 73.167.238.120 (talk) 22:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "vandalism logo". Where did you see it? I posted a (templated) caution about editing talk page posts, and then removed the phrase "may appear to other editors to be vandalism". It is part of the template, because changing other people's talk page posts can often be seen as vandalism, but I didn't think that applied here. --bonadea contributions talk 16:07, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- If the edits were not vandalism, and you are directing me to talk page guidelines, why is there a vandalism logo? 73.167.238.120 (talk) 19:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
ANI notification - Warsh Kumar
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Warsh Kumar. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 19:02, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
User Diving Plus
seems to be pretty suspicious. Ref: Deletion discussion of Dhindora. Not sure if it's an SPI but feels like a paid or bad faith editor. I am not sure where to report paid editors so dropping you a note. I have nominated one of their pages Atul Raghav for nomination too (Please don't vote there since some may see it as canvassing!). Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:24, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
FYI
Nagaur News was moved to mainspace. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: thanks for the heads-up. I draftified it again instead of speedy tagging it, because I think there's socking involved – I'll create a SPI report in a minute. --bonadea contributions talk 08:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mahi Choudhary falka. It's a pity this user keeps socking and self-promoting, because it looks like they are perfectly capable of creating good content such as Dilip Choudhary. --bonadea contributions talk 08:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello Bonadea I know it is not right to support a subject who is not considered notable in general or have bad history of recreation like Ashish Chanchlani I also know doing this eventualy spoils an editors reputation over here, which I MYSELF AM AGAINST OF, But as I am from India and have been through his vines since a long time and after my research I found that this guy do have sources which in general would have made someone who doesn't have a bad history, notable over here, and my intention is not at all to get this article created but out of curiosity I want to know that someone having sources like Forbes mans world india, India Today has been a part of Marvel India see Hindustan Times India Today Again these and also has won multiple awards like Indian Television Academy Awards Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards, how come he is considered as not notable and is being declined via AFC!! Your guidance on this case scenario would help me a lot in understanding wikipedia, Thanks & Regards Suryabeej ⋠talk⋡ 16:31, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not declined – rejected. --bonadea contributions talk 20:12, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Bonadea would you mind being more clear on it, why rejected despite of having all those notable points? Suryabeej ⋠talk⋡ 04:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- Bonadea? Suryabeej ⋠talk⋡ 15:18, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- You haven't mentioned any notable points? None of the sources you list here counts towards notability. The Forbes source has been discussed previously, the Man's World is primary and the India Today piece is just a bunch of social media postings, I have no idea what "has been a part of Marvel India" refers to but a trivial mention in an interview with a different person is not a source that works in Wikipedia, and then there is another India Today piece which is primary. I'm not sure why you mention the Nick award given that that was discussed in one or two of the multiple AfDs. So the entire case for notability is based on him receiving the title of "digital influencer of the year" at the ITA awards, and that is not a case for notability at all. --bonadea contributions talk 21:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- Bonadea? Suryabeej ⋠talk⋡ 15:18, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- Bonadea would you mind being more clear on it, why rejected despite of having all those notable points? Suryabeej ⋠talk⋡ 04:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
blanking?
You sure about this? Seems to me WP:BLANKING doesn't list block notices as unremovable. Declined unblock requests, MFD tags, speedy deletion tags, IP sharing notices. What am I missing? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 14:44, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Jpgordon: Um. I was sure, but I was also wrong! For some reason I was convinced that sock block notices (unlike other block notices) were supposed to stay. Thanks for the gentle nudge; I've self-reverted. --bonadea contributions talk 16:07, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Reply
Bonadea, I've replied a message of your in my talk page. Please kindly see this. || Orbit Wharf 15:28, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- What is about [https:// masala.com/celebrities/its-official-rakul-preet-singh-jackky-bhagnani-are-dating]? || Orbit Wharf 18:20, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- What about it? Random trashy gossip webpage, it seems to me. I don't know how it was supposed to be relevant to the draft you were asking about. --bonadea contributions talk 21:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Corrected.Orbit Wharf () 07:05, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- This makes less and less sense with each new reply from you. I have disabled the link. --bonadea contributions talk 08:01, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Corrected.Orbit Wharf () 07:05, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- What about it? Random trashy gossip webpage, it seems to me. I don't know how it was supposed to be relevant to the draft you were asking about. --bonadea contributions talk 21:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
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Am wondering if your opinion changed given the new press releases indicating she's the full time Fox & Friends First? Sucker for All (talk) 00:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Of course not. They are press releases, and press releases still don't count towards notability. Please don't badger other editors like this. --bonadea contributions talk 07:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Additionally, it is one press release, not several. One PR published in five places is still just one source. --bonadea contributions talk 08:47, 30 October 2021 (UTC)