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Question from Unsung history June 26 2024

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is the saba islander (https://thesabaislander.com/)a reliable source for wikipedia standards? UnsungHistory (talk) 03:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a tough one. WP:BLOG explains when you can use blog sources: in short, not often. However, his biography on that website shows that he has published books with major publishers (eg MacMillan), so you could track those down. His newspaper columns, maybe. But I expect they aren't online. -- asilvering (talk) 03:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be more specific,in the article Island council (Netherlands Antilles),the statement "The latter three were until 1 April 1983[citation needed] governed by a single island council:",so the saba islander (https://thesabaislander.com/2013/04/01/aprl-1st-1983-april-1st-2013/ and https://thesabaislander.com/)support this statement,but I am unsure if I can cite it or not. UnsungHistory (talk) 01:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd expect that to be in some other source somewhere, but this is better than nothing, so what I would do here is add this source, remove the citation needed tag, but then add this one: Template:Better source needed. -- asilvering (talk) 01:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok thanks,by the way,how do i mark a conversation as "done"? UnsungHistory (talk) 19:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean this: Template:Archive top? Or are you just looking for an icon? There's a list of those at Template:Close. -- asilvering (talk) 01:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I saw something wrong,i could not find evidence it exists,or misunderstood Template:Unprod that is not what i meant UnsungHistory (talk) 19:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alfred von Martin moved to draftspace

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Thanks for your contributions to Alfred von Martin. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and too many of the "references" are not references. Remove them or make them notes. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. UtherSRG (talk) 19:54, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@UtherSRG, I'm the AfC reviewer who accepted this article. I disagree that it is unready for mainspace and firmly believe it will survive AfD, but in any case this is an improper draftification. -- asilvering (talk) 19:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Holly Manthepa (19:55, 30 June 2024)

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Hello, when was Wikipedia established and launched? --Holly Manthepa (talk) 19:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Holly Manthepa 2001. You might be interested in reading History of Wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 19:58, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

qustion

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hi you made a change on a page i made and add this, Could you please explain why you think so?

Some of this article's listed sources may not be reliable. (June 2024)
The neutrality of this article is disputed. (June 2024)

Regarding the first issue, I included many sources; maybe it was too many, but they provided sufficient support. As for the second issue, could you clarify why you found the tone unneutral in this article? Privetjournalist (talk) 22:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Privetjournalist, there are phrases in here like "His mastery extends", "pioneering ability", and so on - these are really not very neutral terms. Please have a look at WP:WTW for some tips here. Regarding the sources, the tag says the sources are not reliable, not that there aren't enough of them. See WP:RS for info on what makes sources reliable. For example, I note that you have his biography on last.fm as a source. Last.fm isn't just an unreliable source, it's completely deprecated on wikipedia (using it actually should have triggered an edit filter for you, warning you not to use it). You can check sources against the list at WP:RSP if you have questions about any particular source. -- asilvering (talk) 04:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your assistance. As a relatively new contributor to Wikipedia, creating this article took a considerable amount of time and effort. I aimed to ensure it met all guidelines, so discovering it did not make the cut to the mainspace was quite disappointing. Regarding the neutrality issue, I often rephrased sentences from news articles, believing I was maintaining a neutral tone. I apologize if this was not the case. I will make the necessary corrections to ensure the content adheres to Wikipedia's neutrality standards. If you have any additional feedback or see other areas for improvement, I would greatly appreciate your input.
Thank you again for your help. Privetjournalist (talk) 08:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed a whole section was removed, which detailed important information about his tech work and research. I believe this content is true, so I plan to reinstate it. I will ask other users to review it to ensure it meets Wikipedia's standards or I would appreciate your guidance on how to write this section better. Privetjournalist (talk) 08:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding it did not make the cut to the mainspace, I want to reassure you that the article you wrote is still in mainspace. It will remain there unless a new page patroller draftifies it. The best way to avoid that happening is to improve the article as much as possible - the WP: links I gave you already should help you with that. If the article is draftified in the future, you can simply move it back to mainspace yourself, though of course you should try to fix whatever issue the new page patroller identified. (You can ask them whatever questions you have on their talk page, if the reasoning isn't clear to you.) -- asilvering (talk) 17:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Niomi derma (20:02, 1 July 2024)

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How do I create citation? --Niomi derma (talk) 20:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Niomi derma (20:02, 1 July 2024) (2)

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How do I create citation? --Niomi derma (talk) 20:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Niomi derma, WP:REFB should answer your questions. Let me know if you read that and are still stuck. -- asilvering (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

pl:Ubiory w Polsce

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That draft is a translation of that article. The topic is 100% notable. Sources exist in Polish, although I don't see an in-deptnh monograph - but plenty of passing mentions: [1]. This academic source calls the work "pioneering". Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I expect that the citations in the article are actually to secondary literature on the topic - the reference says Jan Matejko is the author, but judging by the sentences the footnotes are attached to, what we're actually looking at is the scholarly introduction to an edition of the work. My googling so far indicated it's probably by Edward Łepkowski, but I haven't managed to turn up a copy online yet, just used book sales. -- asilvering (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A common error with such citations is when they actually quote a foreword or such by a reliable scholar, in an otherwise primary source book, but the person adding the cite did not bother to properly ID the chapter cited :( Can't be 100% sure without looking at the sources, of course. I do know a Polish Wikipedian who may be able to provide use with a scan of some pages or check contents inside, if you'd like, I can put you in touch with them. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Obianuju MacMoses (06:05, 10 July 2024)

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Hello, am new here in wikipedia I want to know how to get started adding my profile --Obianuju MacMoses (talk) 06:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to wikipedia, @Obianuju MacMoses! If you mean your userpage, see WP:USER. You might also want to read WP:NOTFB. -- asilvering (talk) 11:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Aiza.za.za (16:40, 10 July 2024)

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hi! i am new to editing. how large are the edits i can make as a new editor? can i add new sections, or reorder existing sections? thank you so so much --Aiza.za.za (talk) 16:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to wikipedia, @Aiza.za.za! I'll drop some helpful links on your user talk page. There's no limit to the size or impact of your edits, technically speaking. However, if you're making a bunch of different changes, many editors prefer to make them in multiple steps. This way, if someone objects to one of the changes you made, but not the others, it's easier for them to revert just that change. Also, since there's no way to save your work other than by publishing it, if you're paranoid about losing what you've written, you'll want to publish in smaller chunks. Personally, if I'm rearranging sections on an article, I'll make an edit that is only that, and leave text changes for a subsequent edit. If I'm writing new text, I tend to stop and publish every paragraph or two. -- asilvering (talk) 17:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you so much! this is super helpful. and thanks for the referrals to the wikiprojects! Aiza.za.za (talk) 18:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vaskino, Mezhdurechensky District, Vologda Oblast

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I’m curious why you closed it as keep when there was not a single policy-based argument to do so. Each of the “keep” articles merely claimed notability, but notability only suggest coverage, not a dedicated article. Qwirkle (talk) 05:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I explained why in the close notice: not a single editor was in favour of deletion, even after Liz vacated her previous keep close to give another week for people to chime in. If you think it should be merged into another article, try WP:RM. -- asilvering (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
er, WP:PM, that is. -- asilvering (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I read that. But this isn't supposed to be a vote, where "I like it" can be a valid reason, and that's pretty much what you saw there. Qwirkle (talk) 13:29, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those were three separate editors finding your reasons for deletion unconvincing and/or unnecessary. Your argument here, and your attempt to overturn two separate keep closes, is more "I don't like it" than any of those were "I like it". -- asilvering (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all. The WP:NOPAGE concerns were simple left unaddressed, and the emphasis on "three separate editors" doesnt exactly scream out "!vote." Qwirkle (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Qwirkle, this is an example of one editor (that's you) disagreeing with the broader consensus formed by everyone else in a discussion, who found your WP:NOPAGE counterargument irrelevant or unpersuasive. If I closed it any other way, the other three editors would rightly object to that close as a supervote. The fact is that we do have these stubs everywhere, and that we do accept that they ought to exist if they meet the criteria at WP:GEOLAND. AfD arguments on this kind of place hinge around whether the place meets WP:GEOLAND or not. If you want to change that much broader consensus, you'd have to go to RfC with a better proposal. For what it's worth, I'm with you - I think these geoland stubs are useless at best and misleading or even false at worst. But I don't believe any !votes to that effect were going to come through in that AfD if it were relisted, given my understanding of how WP:GEOLAND works at AfD.
Personally, I suspect no one feels so passionately about "if it meets geoland, it should have a standalone article" that they would go around reverting bold merge-and-redirects into a central article like you sort-of-proposed in your nomination statement. The next time you find a cluster of nothing-stubs like these you might try that instead of AfD and see if that ends up with a more useful outcome. -- asilvering (talk) 20:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do i create a new wiki project?

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so i noticed a strange lack of exact day information for some months (november bieng the most dramatic example) compared to others (april seems to be the with the most exact day information),i want to start a wiki project to DO something about it so there are more exact day info here on wikipedia,so how do i do that? UnsungHistory (talk) 03:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's probably already a wikiproject dedicated to what you want to work on. I'm not entirely sure if this is what you're talking about, but how's WP:DAYS? -- asilvering (talk) 03:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
so i checked WP:DAYS,they look to keep the dates in a consistent style,it could mean that they research and add exact dates to information such as in the article about Republic of suriname,"The official spelling of the country's English name was changed from "Surinam" to "Suriname" in January 1978",no exact day,it just says January,but it could not mean that,i dont know UnsungHistory (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, they're responsible for taking care of the individual days articles, like January 1 and so on. You can see what it is they do by following the link to the wikiproject and reading the page there. -- asilvering (talk) 23:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SonalSehgalghb (10:33, 22 July 2024)

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Hello, I worked on a page of a Military general but the page has been declined. If you can guide me to help make the draft better to be included in the mainspace. Regards --SonalSehgalghb (talk) 10:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SonalSehgalghb, this draft is looking a lot better than it was before, but it's still missing the crucial thing we need to consider subjects notable for inclusion: in-depth, independent coverage in reliable sources. You don't need to remove the citations to the MoD, but we do need more independent sources. Right now I don't see a single source that qualifies as both independent and significant coverage. The sources that looked the most promising all appear to be press releases. What you're looking for is actual reporting - something with a byline (ie, a named reporter wrote the article). It will help if you remove items that are almost completely unrelated to him, like this one [2]. -- asilvering (talk) 14:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, @Asilvering thanks a ton for the quick response. Your response and guidance is quite insightful in understanding where was I missing out.
I will add the relevant information as suggested.
Thanks once again.
~~ SonalSehgalghb (talk) 15:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Tonkarooson (07:57, 25 July 2024)

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Hello! Nice to see you, feel free to read my user page if you'd like! For the question, are you comfortable with putting the adopted user template on my user page? --Tonkarooson (discuss). 07:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Tonkarooson, and a belated welcome to editing wikipedia! As for your question, I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Do you mean one of these templates? I don't really have any opinion on those, as I'm not part of adopt-a-user. But I'm happy to answer any questions you have about editing wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 00:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red August 2024

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Women in Red | August 2024, Volume 10, Issue 8, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 313, 314, 315


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Question from Wiki kyliekyliekylie (12:22, 26 July 2024)

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hi im literally just starting out, i wanted to get into editing because i have sometimes found blatant misinfo on wikipedia and wanted to learn how to edit to correct any future misinfo i come across, is that normal? --Wiki kyliekyliekylie (talk) 12:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Wiki kyliekyliekylie, welcome to wikipedia! Yes actually, a common thread among experienced editors is that they joined because something was wrong on the internet. When you go to correct something, make sure you provide a reliable source for the new information. Have a look at WP:RSP to check if a source you're about to use is reliable for the purposes of wikipedia. If there is no source for the information in a current wikipedia article, and you think the information is wrong, you don't need a reliable source to replace it - just remove it. -- asilvering (talk) 00:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you very much Wiki kyliekyliekylie (talk) 21:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ambystomatidae macrodactylum (19:28, 26 July 2024)

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Hello there,

I am trying to update the title of my organization's Wikipedia page however I am not the creator. I see instruction to 'Move Page' but I am not seeing that option anywhere.

How should I go about changing the title to the page if I am not the creator?

Thanks! --Ambystomatidae macrodactylum (talk) 19:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ambystomatidae macrodactylum, you can't do this when you have a brand-new account. I can do it for you, or open a move discussion if that's necessary. What is your organization, and what is the correct name? Can you provide a URL to a source for the correct name? -- asilvering (talk) 00:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Nurseriesandschools Ltd on Draft:Nurseriesandschools.org (11:59, 29 July 2024)

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How to create my article? --Nurseriesandschools Ltd (talk) 11:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nurseriesandschools Ltd, you'll want to read WP:COI (and maybe WP:BOSS) before you start. I'll leave you some more links on your talk page. -- asilvering (talk) 12:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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