User talk:Apuldram

Welcome

Thanks for your edits on The Foundation of Perth 1829; excellent stuff; hope you stick around. If you're the type that likes to work in a team, you might like to join WP:WA. See you round. Hesperian 10:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all; I look forward to seeing what you do with it. Hesperian 22:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Original Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For the rapid expansion of Mark John Currie Gnan garra 23:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A second instalment added, incorporating, where relevant, information gleaned from the awesome number of sites and contributions you have made. Still much to do though.Apuldram 20:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again; I shall make the time to read it through thoroughly now that you've expanded it so very much.

You're too kind. Most of my contributions in this space were made fairly early on in my Wikipedia "career", and need to be looked at again. Land grants in the Swan River Colony is a good example - I was very proud of it when I first posted it, but the more I have read the more naive it seems.

Hesperian 23:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Harvey River

The article on the Harvey River mentions 'Captain Mark Collie' and links to 'Mark John Currie'. Should it refer and link to Dr 'Alexander Collie'? Apuldram (talk) 15:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, a blonde moment from me: well spotted. I may have been confusing Currie and Drummond's July 1829 expedition to Rockingham with Collie and Preston's more extensive trip into the Peel-Harvey Estuary and down to the mouth of the Collie River in November. Anyway its fixed and a reference added. See ya round. —Moondyne 23:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Frederick Currie, 1st Baronet

I have removed the incorrect details Bashereyre (talk) 18:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Hi Apuldram, I noticed you edited some of the pages I was interested in, for example you added the text to treaty of lahore. I'm trying to improve the Sikh military history articles and I was hoping you could help me with Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop#map of fighting clans in punjab. I saw you created the topographical map of punjab so I thought you might be able to help. Also, could you upload the topographical map as an svg? Profitoftruth85 (talk) 07:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

Medical articles on Wikipedia are written based on the best available evidence in a consistent format. A list of resources to help you edit can be found here. The diberri tool will aid formatting the references for us in articles. All one needs to do is cut and paste the results. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions feel free to drop me a note. Cheers Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:10, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IRC invitation

Because I have noticed you commenting at the current RfC regarding Pending Changes, I wanted to invite you to the IRC channel for pending changes. If you are not customarily logged into the IRC, use this link. This under used resource can allow real time discussion at this particularly timely venture of the trial known as Pending Changes. Even if nothing can come from debating points there, at least this invitation is delivered with the best of intentions and good faith expectations. Kind regards. My76 Strat 09:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shankar Dayal Singh

Thanks for reviewing the article. Your suggestions mean a lot to us. We shall definitely try to incorporate it. Regards. PARIJAT 10:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC) talk
We have tried to do the needful. As for the two photographs, please note that the other one is a logo to mark the 75th Birth Anniversary of Shankar Dayal Singh (Shankar Amrit Mahotsava). PARIJAT 14:06, 13 September 2012 (UTC) talk[reply]

Chand Kaur

As you are interested in the subject Sikh Empire, hoping a comment from you at Talk:Chand Kaur. Regards --Vssun (talk) 11:27, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the talk page again. And please see Talk:Henry Hardinge, 1st Viscount Hardinge also. --Vssun (talk) 02:24, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Apuldram (talk) 10:54, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rowan Williams et al.

You should read Baron#Style of address and Territorial designation thoroughly and be aware that we (by long-established convention) use someone's proper style (current or most recent if dead) as the |name= in their infobox (i.e. The Lord Williams of Oystermouth, The Baroness Thatcher, The Lord Runcie). If you have any questions, please do reply on my talk page. D B D 13:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for rollback

Hi Apuldram. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account.

rollback

Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
Rollback should never be used to edit war.
If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism.

Happy editing! Mifter (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Thank you for the edits! ThinkingYouth (talk) 11:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

and Cookies too!

Sorry for the belated welcome, but the cookies are still warm! User Talk:Faizan 17:30, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - Wayback Machine tips

Thank you Apuldram,

Wayback Machine tips

If you mean the JKR citation reanimations, well, the very last two I did were reanimated using the Wayback Machine, which can be found at:

www.archive.org

What you do is: you find the dead http:// address in the Edit page & you click & highlight it. Then you copy & paste it into the 'Take me Back' box in Wayback: paste in the dead link & click search. They'll give you different versions of the page going back in time and the recent one usually states, 'unavailable'. So you work back from there & find one that's still alive. Click and drag its address to highlight it, and then copy it. Now, you want to go back to your citation code in Wikipedia. Ok, so you find the old decayed http address line there and you can now delete it. Then you copy the new one in its place. To finish off you might want to add a few bits of info, you know like, 'Archived from Wayback Machine' or whatever just to be clear. I don't know if I'm supposed to also pop in 'Retrieved again on [date]' I don't usually take it this far & haven't been corrected yet.

So that was my last two edits on the JKR bio page. As for the ones before, I'm not sure. I think most of these previous reanimations on JKR were done from scratch from browsing searches in Start Page and the like. In fact many JKR citations came up on the same page which was lucky & helpful, like her own official biography page.

On a last note I feel morally okay using Wayback Machine - the staff there are very helpful with people who wish to delete old pages from the archive. Plus they don't abuse the person's privacy by making them available to search engines. Well I'm in two minds about their archive - I don't think they really have any right to archive material without the person's consent in the first place...but seeing as they make the process of removal so easy, at least that's not so bad.

Thank you for your encouragement. In fact my answer has clarified the process for me - I'll refer to it in future if I've been offline for a while. PS - I've just done an example of reanimating a dead link on the Rowan Williams page. I'll try & reanimate the other dead link there too - supposing you don't beat me to it : ) Bye,

Angela MacLean (talk) 19:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I wouldn't waste time looking for the other lost citation on Rowan Williams on Wayback. I've just been through the 4 copies of them - all removed. Good luck.

Angela MacLean (talk) 20:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the Barnstar : Angela MacLean (talk) 19:00, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rhea

You were quite right. Sorry to have made such a meal of nothing. Day by day, I grow more convoluted and obtuse... Haploidavey (talk) 08:50, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Sikhism

Please could you help me keep an eye on it. This user seems to have a real problem with his basic grasp of Englsh. He has a knack of creating long winded nonsensical statements that are unencyclopaedic. He's damaged many India related articles. I know he means well but he lacks WP:COMPETENCE. Thanks SH 19:45, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi fellow editor, please can you help me keep an eye onThis editor. He appears to be using classic block evade tactics. Riding warnings then starting his WP:Disruptive editing again. My suspicion is it maybe another Sikh "extremist" type. Thanks SH 09:29, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can help improve the English, but I'm not a Sikh and I don't have easy access to relevant literature, so I am unable to judge the validity of the various doctrinal edits. Apuldram (talk) 10:59, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to be Sikh, just look out for the references. He deleted some because he didn't like them, and has a tendency to do that on many articles. See Nihang. Thanks SH 13:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Guru Nanak

Can you please explain your revert ? Dredging is often used to recover sunken items, or even bodies. "Dragging" a river does not make any sense. Anish7 (talk) 11:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question answered on Anish7's talk page. Apuldram (talk) 12:56, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sikh Empire

Hi and Enjoy , Its fine that you reverted my edit regarding Baba Banda Singh Bahadur.Now, by your own wording, i have re-edited that line and deleted the same words which were edited by myself.Truth is that Banda Singh Bahadur belonged to a Brahmin family.However if yo think that it is unsourced and unexplained and there is no proof of that, then you also can't write that he was a 'Dogra Rajput'.You should use an inline citation to cite a verifiable reliable published source that supports your edit. Otherwise your edit may be reverted as unsourced. Shaunkiz (talk) 12:55, 4 August 2014 (GMT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaunkiz (talk • contribs)

I agree (incidentally. I didn't write that he was a Dogra Rajput. That edit was by Himanshu Singh Jasrotia in August 2013). The main article on BSB presents a neutral point of view . Apuldram (talk) 08:43, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

i am happy that you agree with me. Tnx. Also i'm new here and don't know some basic rules to post, edit, answer etc etc.i'l be more than happy if you could teach me. Tnx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaunkiz (talk • contribs) 19:30, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks So Much.Shaunkiz (talk) 09:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty of Amritsar and Princely state of Kashmir

http://www.jklaw.nic.in/treaty_of_amritsar.pdf , you must read this document before making any claims about the dissolving of the sikh empire. Following is the excerpt of the historic treaty "Article 10 Maharajah Gulab Singh acknowledges the supremacy of the British Government and will in token of such supremacy present annually to the British Government one horse, twelve shawl goats of approved breed (six male and six female) and three pairs of Cashmere shawls. This Treaty of ten articles has been this day settled by Frederick Currie, Esq. and Brever-Major Henry Montgomery Lawrence, acting under directions of the Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Hardinge, Governor-General, on the part of the British Government and by Maharajah Gulab Singh in person, and the said Treaty has been this day ratified by the seal of the Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Hardinge, Governor-General. Done at Amritsar the sixteenth day of March, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty-six, corresponding with the seventeenth day of Rubee-ul-Awal (1262 Hijri). (Signed) H. Hardinge (Seal) (Signed) F. Currie (Signed) H. M. Lawrence " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.89.5.85 (talk) 15:48, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Link GA|bs

Discussion - Bending a good article in BS Wiki

"Unexplained claim to be a good article in Bosnian"? Why didn't you check further instead of just reverting? I am an admin on BS Wiki so I suppose I know what I'm doing. I admit the mistake for not explaining it in the summary. We had a voting for the article and it passed. We even considered proposing it for a featured article (our Wiki is not rich as EN), but we settled down on this for now (there are some minor issues that have left). Of course, we all have to learn English, but you don't have to learn even a bit of Bosnian [not personal; just a general issue ("big" language vs. "small" language/s/)]. -- KWiki (talk) 07:32, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I did, of course, check before I undid the edit. The Bosnian article on bending had not yet received a project assessment for class, and there was no evidence on its talk page of an assessment by an independent panel for good article status. If the Bosnian article has indeed been properly assessed to be a good article, that should be recorded in the usual way on its talk page

I subsequently checked on KWiki's user page that he is not recorded there as a Wikipedia administrator. Perhaps there should be a separate symbol for national administrators. Apuldram (talk) 12:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1) We have special pages for choosing featured and good articles (and archives of proposed articles). We are small community (unfortunately) and because of that we don't have many things that EN Wiki has (we simply don't have enough people to do all things that should be done, but we are trying as much as we can), so 5 or 6 votes are usually enough for the decision. And we usually put the mark in chosen articles directly, not on their talk pages (I don't say that it shouldn't go like that - I just say what is the usual practice on BS Wiki, at least since I began to work), although there are exceptions. 2) There is a symbol for administrators in the top right corner at my user page (a little Wiki globe) and there is also this list, so I don't know why you didn't see that I am an admin. All in all, I hope that we resolved this. Best wishes and sorry for any inconvenience. -- KWiki (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation. I apologise for the extra work I have caused you. Very best wisjes. Apuldram (talk) 18:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. Anytime. :) So, could you revert your reverting now :) (given all that I said in explanation)? We have really chosen "Bending" for a good article. :) -- KWiki (talk) 09:20, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have authority to do that. Assesment for good articles is by administrators. Apuldram (talk) 10:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that you have switched BS Wiki for EN Wiki. :) We have chosen "Bending" for good article in BS Wiki and I put that mark in the article on EN Wiki so everyone can see that that article is a good article in BS Wiki, not in EN Wiki. Huh... These words and Wikis... :-) -- KWiki (talk) 16:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Himalaya image

Thanks. I got confused and wrote in a completely confusing way. I have corrected the comment in the talk page now.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:58, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your reversion on user's talk page

Hi. I re-deleted the content that you restored at User talk:Dunnesite52,0. Users are generally free to remove notes, including warnings, that have been left by others on their user talk pages. When they do, it's interpreted as evidence that they've read it. See WP:REMOVED. —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:35, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hello Apuldram !

Thank you for considering my edit and including it in the article Punjab region.

Should you require any sources related to Sufism whether Islamic or non-Islamic feel free to consult me. :)

Pixarh (talk) 15:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mark John Currie

Just curious about your reversion of the Wikisource Dictionary of Naval Biography link.

You said: "The 'See also' section is for internal links," True but scroll down to Lists to Sister Projects and you find "Links to Wikimedia sister projects . . . should generally appear in "External links", not under "See also". Two exceptions are Wiktionary and Wikisource links that may even be linked inline (e.g., to the text of a document being discussed or to a word that might not be familiar to all readers)." (my emphasis).

and "It is not for external references that are already included in the article's body." Arguably also Ttrue but the existing reference is to one short sentence; the NBD article supports substantially more than that reference implies.

I'm still learning some of the nuances but ti seems to me that the See Also entry was more appropriate than the footnote reference? GreyHead (talk) 09:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The O'Byrne article includes no information that is not already provided, often in more detail, in the Wikipedia article. It does not fulfil the see also function of providing additional related information for readers who would like to explore further around the subject. It would have been inappropriate, even if it had not already been included as a reference.

In 2007/2008 I consulted the O'Byrne article in the Naval Biographical Dictionary (the original, not the Wikisource mirror), now archived here The reason there is only one reference to it is because, in general, other sources were better, more detailed, or more authoritative. Apuldram (talk) 09:43, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For continuing copyediting, reviewing, and working on Mount Everest related articles. Fotaun (talk) 18:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

		The Mount Everest Summit
		For editing, improvements, and perseverance on Wikipedia's Mount Everest article family. Thank you Fotaun (talk) 18:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Fotaun. I have been impressed by the major contributions you have made and continue to make to Everest. Apuldram (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations in Lead

Hi .. could you clarify what is the policy on placing a quotation to begin the lead section ? Does it mention anywhere that it is prohibited ?

I checked the links you posted. It describes what the first "sentence" of the lead section should be. However, does it prohibit placing a quotation before the first sentence ?

Thanks.

Js82 (talk) 00:49, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You placed the quotation before what had been the first paragraph, so the quotation became the first paragraph and was incorrect, because it did not follow the MOS advice in WP:LEADPARAGRAPH and WP:LEADSENTENCE.

The quotation does not belong anywhere in the lead section of the article, see MOS:INTRO. It could perhaps be put later in the article, but will need to cite a verifiable reliable source for the translation into English.

Apuldram (talk) 09:56, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Guru Nanak

Hi Apuldram, I have reverted your edit on Guru Nanak's page. I understand that what you restored was sourced content. However, it seems to be a distraction when reading the lead. Also, IMHO, it is not a very important piece of information to be presented upfront. It could be included in the later sections, e.g., early life. I hope you understand my reasoning.

Thank you. Js82 (talk) 09:15, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence regarding the celebration in October/November of Guru Nanak's birthday was added originally because several contributors thought incorrectly that his actual birthday was then, see the article's history and talk. I agree it no longer needs to be upfront and have moved it to the next section. Much of the present content of the lead needs similar treatment. Apuldram (talk) 11:15, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New to Wikipedia

Courteous helper

Dear Apuldram,

You, and others like you, who try to help newcomers, are most important to the health of Wikipedia.

If newcomers are treated as interlopers, there will be no recruitment of new talent, and eventually, no Wikipedia.

Thank you. Nakashchit (talk) 10:26, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Guru Nanak

Hello I notice you had taken off some content. Have added it in quotes now (please understand those words are just describing the qualities of God based on the very first prayer in Sikhism, so there is not much "rephrasing" that can be done). We can discuss in case of issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suim1313 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sikhism Article

Thank you for your most recent edit on Sikhism ! Just wanted to let you know that it is appreciated. This place is not all doom and gloom after all.

Might be too much to ask from your time, but if and when you get a chance, please do read some of the Sikhism talk page discussion on the most recent topic of "Revelations" and see if you would like some changes in the article.

One other minor edit might be a quick one for you: Please see this edit

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sikhism&diff=689612566&oldid=689611396

This was posted to clarify the context (from the source) of some text added by Sarah Welch earlier the same day, very cleverly without any context. However, she and Josh Jonathan just reverted it, saying unsourced. How can they have the audacity to do that ?

A group of people here have hijacked Sikhism (and other related articles) to push their own agendas (they possess zero knowledge really), and often post blatant lies (as in this example), and there is no accountability at all. Please continue to do your bit ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.86.112 (talk) 03:41, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These links in succession (my bad I have to show it this way, as the Google books link does not show the page completely) would show you that the content is completely sourced:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q="are cared for in Hindu temples. it is not unusual to find such practices denounced in sikh"

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q="it is not unusual to find such practices denounced in sikh"

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q="The Gurus and the Book deserve the respect they are accorded because of the bani"

And I do apologize for the entire unsolicited post above. Was Just trying to raise some awareness. You are of course free to completely ignore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:2272:1E63:0:2E:4968:7801 (talk) 06:12, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Query

@Joshua Jonathan: Sorry to show my ignorance, but what’s an SPI? (Talk:Sikhism#Temporary protection) Could you please point me at an explanation. Thankyou in anticipation. Apuldram (talk) 13:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SPI. Scroll through the recent (last four, five months), to see why. See also the post above at your talkpage about "Sikism article". Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:34, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou for adding the Wikilink. As you can see from the post "Sikism article" above, I knew why, but I didn't know what SPI meant. Now I do (and I agree with you, maybe it's time for another) Apuldram (talk) 13:57, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Himalayas

Hello, thanks for your edit and for cleaning up the sentence in the Etymology section. I just wanted to suggest adding the actual Sanskrit word to the etymology section given that the English word directly descends from the Sanskrit word (examples of this can be seen in the articles: jungle and Suvarnabhumi airport.)

Would it be alright if the sentence could be changed from this:

"The name Himālaya is from Sanskrit: hima (snow) ālaya (dwelling), and literally means "abode of snow".[6]"

to this?

"The name Himālaya (Devanagari: हिमालय) is from Sanskrit: hima (snow) ālaya (dwelling), and literally means "abode of snow".[6]"

Thanks! Tiger7253 (talk) 09:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Tiger7253: I suggest you take that question to the Himalayas talk page. Apuldram (talk) 14:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We survived...

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Thanks again for keeping an eye on the Mount Everest articles. Fotaun (talk) 20:22, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sikh Empire Flag research

Hi Apuldram! In response for your messages about the two flags created by me, I wished to tell you, that unfortunately there are is no book with Sikh flag topic. The only thing that I was based on are 18th and 19th century Punjabi paintings most displayed here:http://www.sikhmuseum.com/nishan/empire/index.html. I don't know if that can be trusted as reliable source in Wikipedia. I know that the flag pattern shown these days, was not used by the Sikh Empire. The other one: Kattar Dhal Talwar.jpg (meaning: Dagger Shield and Sabre), is also based from the link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shersingh8 (talk • contribs) 16:21, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Prizes

Hello friend,
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Thanks and regards. --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:32, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Categories.

Hello. I suffer from severe depression and anxiety, and become very afraid when I sense that something might lead to a heated argument, so I cannot engage in any kind of conflict without damaging my health, but I will attempt to explain my action on the article of Jind Kaur. Please be assured: this is not a about prestige, status, disrespect, or anything of that sort, this is just about this: when there is a precise, advanced category, then a more clumsy category should not be used of any person, George IV or any on else. It only overflows categories, make them enormous, and makes it more difficult to find articles. When there is two alternatives, the more advanced and detailed category should be used. I have no other wish, than simply to make articles easy to find, and to use detailed categories, rather than clumsy ones. Jind Kaur was a regent, which makes her a ruler: a "ruler" can be used for both regents, monarchs, or any kind of ruler in a monarchy. And she was a female ruler under the 19th-century. No other article of a female ruler under the 19th-century, are also categorized as a "female regent", because it is unnecessary, and because each article deserve detailed categories when they exist. It the cases when articles have both detailed and clumsy categories with the same meaning, then the reason is likely simply that the clumsy cat was added first, before the detailed cat was created, and the clumsy cat was simply left there and forgotten. As I said, I am too mentally fragile to argue, but I hope that I have managed to make myself understood, and assured you that I have no disrespectful intent. --Aciram (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is not about prestige or disrespect but about accuracy.
Jind Kaur was undoubtably a female regent and users looking for a list of female regents would naturally look in that category and the list would be incorrect if it omitted her name.
It is questionable that she should be categorised as a female ruler, as the ruler at that time was Maharajah Duleep Singh. Apuldram (talk) 18:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Raj Kaur, mother of Ranjit SIngh

@Apuldram: On the year of death for Raj Kaur, the mother of Ranjit Singh, I see early 1799 in several sources (Kapoor, Ralhan, etc), when Ranjit Singh would have been 18. Do you know of sources that suggest a different year. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 19:04, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ms Sarah Welch: My sources indicate 1799 as well. They also say that she managed the misl on his behalf until he reached adulthood at 18. One source states
"When Raṇjīt Siṅgh came of age, he did away with her control and took power into his own hands. This proved a great shock to her, and she gradually pined away to her end."
I feel however that the source is doing a bit of OR. Apuldram (talk) 21:30, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 00:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Punjab

Can you please explain your revert on Punjab, India and Punjab (region)? Sikh Historian 14:28, 21 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peeta Singh (talk • contribs)

Answered on user's talk page. Apuldram (talk) 11:20, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jagtar Singh Hawara

Hi, could you please check recent edits to the Jagtar Singh Hawara article. May be worth a SOAP and NPOV-balance check given some of @Peeta Singh's edits and talk page reasoning. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Kashmir

@Ms Sarah Welch: Just to let you know that I didn't ignore your request of 2 December in Talk:Kashmir. I checked in my copies of Grewal and Cunningham, but didn't find anything that I felt would be helpful in the current discussion. I'll keep my eye on the article and, when the furore dies, may make a contribution if I have something constructive to add. Apuldram (talk) 16:31, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. There seems to be a lot of historical baggage between many editors there. Quite natural, given how contested, complex and difficult some ARBIPA-space topics are. I too will hold off, let the furore subside. I hope your 2017 is off to a good start and cheers, Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:47, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apuldram, Please help me understand how you would to correct this update

@Apuldram: Please explain why the reference I have placed was random and irrelevant. West India has major issues that is causing anti-nationalism. Sikhism is there to help to be inclusive of all people. How would you like to see this paragraph corrected?

Guru Nanak has mentioned in his first composition of Jup Ji Sahib which is recited daily by all practicing Sikhs that all souls are to be treated with care and respect as God is the Giver of all souls.

"The Guru has given me this one understanding: there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him!", Guru Granth Sahib, 2

Guru Nanak also said that blessings are rained down when the lowly person, regardless of any background are cared for.

"In that place where the lowly are cared for-there, the Blessings of Your Glance of Grace rain down." , Guru Granth Sahib, 15

Guru Nanak also has spoken we need to prize humility above all and thus caste is not an issue.

"One who takes pride in wealth and lands is a fool, blind and ignorant.

One whose heart is mercifully blessed with abiding humility,

O Nanak, is liberated here, and obtains peace hereafter." [Granth Sahib, 278]

Aswered at Sikh talk page. Apuldram (talk) 22:02, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Guru Hargobind

@Ms Sarah Welch: Section Jahangir. Did you mean discreetly? Apuldram (talk) 19:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! I fixed it I hope. The article needs more attention. I have done a bit of cleanup. Arvind-Pal Singh Mandair has more, as does JS Grewal's chapter, on Guru Hargobind etc. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 20:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Apuldram, when you have time, would you please double check my significant revisions/additions to Guru Angad and other Gurus in recent weeks. Also the infoboxes in these articles for verifiability/accuracy. Thanks, Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 11:42, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Need contact information

Dear Apuldram,

My father is writing a book on urban planning and would like to use one of the maps you have contributed to wikipedia: (Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.org/ File: Punjab map (topographical) with cities.png - licensed under Creative Commons, Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-3.0), Apuldram-Own work.

He would like to contact you for the permission.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Askisu (talk • contribs) 02:20, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you wish to use the 2013 version, it can be used with the credit "Map by Apuldram, distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported licence." If you wish to use the 2015 version, you need to add 'and Filpro' after 'Apuldram'.

My specific permission is not needed, as it has already been given when I uploaded the image, see here. Apuldram (talk) 11:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ping - please respond if still interested. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:16, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

form completed. Apuldram (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: Do I need to do anything else? What happens now? Apuldram (talk) 23:27, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's pending on a couple more people filling out the form, then Cambridge will set up accounts on their end. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:14, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Angela Merkel

Okay, I understand the tense. However following your line of thinking she was also the third, fourth, sixth most powerful person as well and they haven't been mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redom115 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Baes River Map

@Apuldram - The map you are putting for Beas river is showing Indian Territory as Pakistan and China hence I have removed it. You can check google maps for Indian Territory - https://www.google.co.in/maps/place/Jammu and Kashmir/@34.9275148,72.6339816,5.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x38e1092499ffa89d:0x6567a6d4697e7f1!8m2!3d33.778175!4d76.5761714 You can also check correct map of Beas river at http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/rivers/beas.html.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.192.230.74 (talk) 06:10, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Everest 2017

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Topic ban

@Bishonen: Is this topic ban still in force? The original notice indicates that it was indefinite, but perhaps there has been a relaxation I haven't seen. I notice that the user is again editing pages on Sikh and Punjabi subjects. Apuldram (talk) 21:27, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for alerting me to this, Apuldram. Yes, the topic ban is still in force; it's indefinite, which means it applies until it's lifted. The user applied on WP:AE to have it lifted, which was declined by the admins there.[1]. He has just returned from a six-month block (note, a self-requested block) and is in fact already violating his topic ban again, as you say. I'm considering what to do about it — theoretically, I should probably block for ban violation, but I think I'll try talking with the user first. Bishonen | talk 18:02, 24 June 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Help with Sikh heritage of Pak Punjab

@Apuldram: Hi, i note you take interest in Sikh topics. I've been trying to expand info on Sikh sites in Lahore since the pages are severely lacking despite this being an extremely important city for Sikhs. I created the page Gurdwara Dera Sahib since there was shockingly no page dedicated to such an important shrine. I've also cleaned up the Gurdwara Darbar Sahib Kartarpur page, and improved the Samadhi of Ranjit Singh page a bit by adding better quality pics. I also created the Gurdwara Chowa Sahib page and cleaned up/expanded the Gurdwara Janam Asthan page.

I'd appreciate your help if you get a chance. Specifically for the ranjit Singh samadhi page, and Gurdwara Panja Sahib. I intend to eventually create a page for Gurdwara Rohri Sahib in Eminabad, and Gurdwara Janam Asthan Guru Ramdas in Lahore, though would appreciate help in this regard too.Willard84 (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Don't create the edit war

I have given the sources along with this line "He also known as one-eyed Sikh worrior". you can see it http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zw2q7ty don't create the edit war by removing it Jagat jit singh (talk) 12:13, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jagat jit singh: You are incorrect. The source does not state "He also known as one-eyed Sikh worrior", as I explained in my edit summary. Apuldram (talk) 12:18, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indian English

Thanks Apuldram for fixing the spellings. My screen editor automatically changes the spelling to American English, and frankly, I am not good at all with the British / Indian / Australian spellings! Your spelling corrections are much appreciated. On another note, is there any other high importance Sikhism space article, that you watch, that needs our collaborative work and attention? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 22:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ms Sarah Welch: Thank you for your message. I would like to help in any way I can with articles relating to Sikhism and the Punjab, but I'm aware of my limitations. If a topic isn't covered in my accessible sources (Harbans Singh, J. D. Cunningham, J. S. Grewal, Khushwant Singh) I'm lost, which is why you'll usually find me making non-techical edits, like copy editing and spelling. Can I let you know when there is info you may be able to help me with? And, of course, vice versa; please let me know if I can do anything helpful. Apuldram (talk) 17:35, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes please. Thank you, Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 19:33, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Useful skill

@Home Lander: I noticed you mass reverted a user who had added advertising to a large number of articles. That looks like a useful ability. Can you point me at a guide on how to do that? Hopefully it is an ability I wouldn't need to use very often, but on rare occasions it could save painstakingly reverting one article at a time. Apuldram (talk) 22:26, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. View the contents of this page, and add the content to your common.js page. When you view a user's contributions page (like Special:Contributions/Away Lander - this is my alt account), you will see "more" next to the "TW" option at the top. Click "rollback all" and it will ask for a reason, then accept it. Just be sure you're rollbacking the correct account, or it'll go awry real quick! I would probably create an alt account and make a couple of sandbox edits if you want to test it. Home Lander (talk) 22:35, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, the original script is at User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js. I found it at Wikipedia:ADMINGUIDE/R#Tools. Home Lander (talk) 22:44, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

About changes in kashmir articals

Whenever I ask google assistant that, "in which country is kashmir ?" It answers that question as "pakistan", may be it's because pakistan's name is placed before india.. please make changes in it... Roshan Pawar (talk) 08:45, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not able to make changes in Google Assistant.
Kashmir currently includes the Indian-administered territory of Jammu and Kashmir, the Pakistani-administered territories of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, and the Chinese-administered territories of Aksai Chin and the Trans-Karakoram Tract.
Apuldram (talk) 09:42, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Need some clarification on the Golden Temple article

Apuldram, you seem to be on wiki-break these days. Please contact me when you are back. I have a few questions on the Golden Temple, etc articles. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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