User talk:Anthony Appleyard/2015/July-December
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A. J. Pollock (baseball)
- What was the purpose of the history merge three years later? None of the info from that version is in this one. I don't know what the benefit of merging that old version is.--Yankees10 17:18, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Yankees10: See Wikipedia:Requests for history merge#Completed requests July 2015. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Ok. But is there anyway to undo the move? Merging in this instance provided no benefits and was unnecessary.--Yankees10 01:13, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Yankees10: Both articles were about the same man, as far as I can see, so I see no harm bringing them together at A. J. Pollock (baseball), since they are not WP:Parallel histories. I get the impression that the old article lost in AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A. J. Pollock at 02:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC), but A. J. Pollock became more noteworthy later, and so someone started a new article about him. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:07, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Protected redirect
- Hi Anthony, could you please change the redirect here to Template:Spaced en dash? Thank you. Alakzi (talk) 22:19, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:01, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Bureau van Dijk
- Hi Anthony - I wanted to create an article about a company named Bureau van Dijk, which was deleted be yourself early this year. As it has been deleted before, it can only be created by an administrator. I believe the company is notable, as it is talked about in many secondary RSs. I have been working on a draft article here - which includes some secondary sources (Reuters, Telegraph) discussing the company. I would appreciate if you could get back to me on this one. Thanks.--الدبوني (talk) 00:06, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- @الدبوني: Page Bureau van Dijk was deleted for A7: No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) and G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Please see WP:NN and make sure that this company is noteworthy, and make the article neutral and not advertisement. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:01, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Anthony - I believe both of these issues (notability, advertising or promotion) have been dealt with. Many secondary RSs show the company is notable, and the tone of the article is not promotional. I hope you can deal with this thanks.--الدبوني (talk) 09:16, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- @الدبوني: Do you want me to move User:الدبوني/BvD to main-space?, at Bureau van Dijk Electronic Publishing, with redirects from BvD and Bureau van Dijk, and a hatlink from BVD. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:45, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Ideally the article would be named Bureau van Dijk with redirects from BvD and Bureau van Dijk Electronic Publishing, as other companies with the Bureau van Dijk name have been incorporated into one company. Thanks.--الدبوني (talk) 09:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks alot.--الدبوني (talk) 10:34, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, you recently deleted a proposal for the addition of Michael W. Tall. Is there a better way to write the article to have him included? Thank you in advance for the help. emcName31 3:28, 8 July 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmcName31 (talk • contribs)
- @EmcName31: Page Michael W. Tall was deleted twice for "no context" and "significance". Please read WP:NN and WP:NPOV. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:29, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- The article move might be problematic. The editor requesting it almost certainly has a conflict of interest, and the article regularly has coi problems. I'm hoping the editor will declare the coi and help us figure out what's going on. See User talk:Ksylvester. --Ronz (talk) 20:07, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm trying to get help, but it should not have been moved as what is now called inome is the notable company, while Intelius is a new spin-off. As Intelius is continuing to operate with a business model and products that were themselves notable within inome, I think we can justify a second article. --Ronz (talk) 19:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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Allahüekber Dağları mountains
- @Yerevantsi: Please, what is the Armenian name of the Allahüekber Dağları mountains in northeast Turkey? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
reverting undiscussed moves
Hi Anthony - I had put some requests to revert undiscussed moves in the "Revert undiscussed moves" section. Would you please revert the moves to God and Satan (song) and Imprudence (Maupassant short story)? If the editor who boldly moved them wishes to start an RM, they can do so. But for now, they should be reverted to their previous state. Thanks. Dohn joe (talk) 23:04, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Dohn joe, I think Talk:Bookends (album) and so on showed that most en.wp editors do not share your understanding of "topic" as equalling "article title", since you have a minority view and since you are quite capable of arguing this view, the RMs give you an opportunity to do so. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Procedurally though, they should be reverted before beginning the RM. Otherwise it encourages gaming of the system. Jenks24 (talk) 10:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Heathrow (hamlet)
Hi. I've started a discussion at Talk:Heathrow_(hamlet) concerning my recent edits which you undid. Please contribute and we'll try and find a consensus! Thanks. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Can you close the RM with
{{subst:rm top}}
and{{subst:rm bottom}}
? --George Ho (talk) 16:52, 25 July 2015 (UTC) - Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:07, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Gold Bug BLAR
Hi Anthony. This entire business with the Gold Bug redirects is extremely controversial. I have registered strenuous objections to the original BLAR on my talk page and reverted it twice. I also requested that he self revert and consider seeking consensus or alternatively proposing a MERGE or sending the article to AfD per WP:BLAR and WP:ATD-R. This looks like an attempt to make an end run around my objections. I also have registered a request with DGG on his talk page to revert back to the original article on my behalf out of deference to 3RR. This editor appears to be very determined to bury that article and is showing a shocking disregard for the many editors who worked on the original article as well as zero interest in seeking consensus. I would appreciate it if you reverted all of this, per the cited guidelines above and my strong objections to the BLAR. If he wants to kill the article he should send it to AfD. Thanks -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:28, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- I will get there tomorrow. DGG ( talk ) 05:10, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- DGG and Anthony Appleyard thank you both for your help and input. GliderMaven is still arguing to delete the article, but at least he's not trying to do it unilaterally. I would not be surprised if he sends it to AfD. But the subject is so clearly notable and the article well sourced that I think it will survive. This article has been the object of a lot of attempted POV editing from people in the gold bug community. Anyway the debate on the talk page continues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
- I will get there tomorrow. DGG ( talk ) 05:10, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
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A cup of coffee for you!
Time for a Coffee Whakaoriori (talk) 04:05, 1 August 2015 (UTC) |
Again with the history merge...
I've got a mess for you this morning...
American Promise (documentary film) is a copy/paste move from American Promise. After the history of those two are merged, the merged article should be at American Promise (film) (there's a redirect with little history there - and there is an American Promise (yacht) article, so it needs the (film) disambiguator). Once that mess is cleaned up, the disambiguation page at American Promise (disambiguation) can go back to American Promise.
Once the pages are all in their proper places, I'll clean up the 9 incoming links to the disambiguation page. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 12:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- Done This has been handled. Don't worry about it. :) -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 00:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Atul Kulkarni
Hi! I had placed the request under "Requests to revert undiscussed moves". I assumed that by placing it there, I was requesting to revert the move that has happened without discussion; i.e. AK to AK(ab1965). User:BlueMario1016 had moved the actor's page from "Name Surname" to "Name Surname (profession born YYYY)" format. This move was not discussed anywhere and by posting the request I wanted this to be reverted. Per MOS:DABRL we don't really create disambig pages for red links. Can you revert the undiscussed move or should I start a formal discussion to get it right as it was? Was I in the wrong forum? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 12:47, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
There is another actor with the exact same name born in 1989 and the reason why it was moved, so it would not cause any confusions between the two actors. BlueMario1016 {Talk 09:56, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Dharmadhyaksha and BlueMario1016: I found this move being also discussed at Talk:Atul Kulkarni#Requested move 29 July 2015, so I left it to be discussed there; since then, someone has closed that discussion. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:50, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- @BlueMario1016: Read MOS:DABRL and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. And thanks for replying. You should have done this on your own page where i have already raised this problem. And thanks Anthony. I hadn't noticed that discussion. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 16:53, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Aqua Lung America
Hi, I ignore why you decided to revert without comments my attempts to clean up pages related to Aqua Lung (though revert-happy snipers seem increasingly common on Wikipedia nowadays), but anyway, you have eventually decided to resurrect an entry that was turned into a redirect by someone else a long time ago, and finally decided to reach the talk page, you will find my reply there: Talk:Aqua Lung America 82.231.41.7 (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Forks Over Knives
Hi Anthony, you moved Forks Over Knives to Forks over Knives in 2012 as uncontroversial. [1] The film title is Forks Over Knives, and Wikipedia seems to be the only publication using the lower case; for example, film website and NYT review.
Would you mind moving it back? I tried to do it but would have had to use the tools. Many thanks, Sarah (talk) 16:47, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Anthony, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't do that again. If I'd wanted to start an RM, I'd have done so. Sarah (talk) 22:19, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- @SlimVirgin: But the issue is controversial. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:25, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- The issue is that you converted a discussion that wasn't intended to be an RM, and which contained a post about something else.
- But that apart, this isn't controversial. You moved it without discussion in 2012 from the title of the film to one that uses lower-case instead. If you look at this Google search, you'll see that WP appears to be the only publication that writes Forks over Knives. It is normally written Forks Over Knives, so it needs to be moved back. Sarah (talk) 22:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks, Anthony. Sarah (talk) 04:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Old VfD talk subpage
- Hi Anthony. I'm working through Wikipedia:Requested moves/Misplaced XfDs and stumbled across Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion/movediscussion. Do you have any idea what should be done with it? Should it just be deleted? If not, should it be moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/movediscussion? I'm not sure having it under VfD is particularly useful. Pinging also Thumperward in case he's interested. Jenks24 (talk) 19:23, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Jenks24 and Thumperward: Move to Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/movediscussion, perhaps. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:30, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- Seeing as Thumperward hasn't replied here, I think we can assume he's not interested (fair enough, too). I've moved it to Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/movediscussion as we both seemed to think was appropriate. Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 09:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Reykjavík Museum of Photography
On 14 March 2014, both you and Moonriddengirl deleted Reykjavík Museum of Photography. I don't fully understand what happened, but at least one of the deletions was on the grounds that it was a copyvio. I had been a very minor, and critical, participant in the creation of the article. I was sorry to see it go.
I've tentatively resuscitated the article, as Draft:Reykjavík Museum of Photography. I have (I hope and believe) stripped it of copyright material, and made miscellaneous minor improvements. Unfortunately I can't read Icelandic; Snaevar, who can, improved the references.
There could be a problem of [Wikipedia style] notability, which I have trouble demonstrating. Notability (as the word is normally understood) exudes from both the Youtube video (among the external links) and from personal correspondence from a disinterested friend who recently went there: neither is of any consequence for Wikipedia, of course. Still, what do you think of the draft?
(I'm about to invite Moonriddengirl here; hope you don't mind.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:43, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Hoary. Anthony's deletion was temporary. He did a history merge to put together a page that was a cut & paste move. The article was deleted because it was listed at the copyright problems board for over a week, copyright problems were pervasive, there was no clean version in history, and no rewrite was proposed. There is nothing to prevent your creating a new article on the subject - in fact, if anybody had proposed a clean rewrite during the listing period, the article wouldn't have been deleted at all. Sadly, people seldom do.
- That said, while your new draft incorporated some close paraphrase which has now been removed (and this is why we don't recommend resolving copyright problems by copying the base text - you can create a derivative work), it was itself a copyright problem because it did not attribute contributors. :) Content on Wikipedia is not public domain; if you incorporate any material from one page into another, you have to attribute. (Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia explains how and why.) This is true of any space on Wikipedia, including sandboxes and draft spaces. I believe that all substantial content that you incorporated from the draft was authored by Sym1 and have attributed him in edit summary to fix that issue.
- I don't have any issue with the draft going live, if you think notability is sufficiently demonstrated. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:40, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, Moonriddengirl. And thank you for fixing the remaining copyright (copyvio/attribution) problems neatly.
- I suppose that the reason why nobody proposed a clean rewrite of the article was that nobody both (i) noticed the article's predicament and (ii) cared. Few contributors are much interested in photography (other than by celeb photographers, of celebs, or by themselves or their chums). I am, but I have limited time and stamina.
- The notability question: Personally, I'm convinced of its notability. (Compared with, say, that of Category:Individual dresses.) But of course this means squat. Has it been discussed in the media (in the way that, say, celebs' individual dresses are discussed)? In English, no (it seems). In Icelandic, perhaps yes. I have better things to do with my time than defend a prematurely launched article in an AfD discussion, so I don't propose to move it to mainspace any time soon. But if it gets an ethical go-ahead, this may help me nudge some readers of Icelandic a second time. -- Hoary (talk) 13:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Works for me, Hoary. :) I know that conflict - I've worked on many a jazz article where mainstream press was sadly lacking. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:28, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- The notability question: Personally, I'm convinced of its notability. (Compared with, say, that of Category:Individual dresses.) But of course this means squat. Has it been discussed in the media (in the way that, say, celebs' individual dresses are discussed)? In English, no (it seems). In Icelandic, perhaps yes. I have better things to do with my time than defend a prematurely launched article in an AfD discussion, so I don't propose to move it to mainspace any time soon. But if it gets an ethical go-ahead, this may help me nudge some readers of Icelandic a second time. -- Hoary (talk) 13:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
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Missing RM
- Hi. Please could you check this - has the Nis' white-tail highflyer to Nis' White-Tail Highflyer request slipped through the net? Thanks. 119.76.65.14 (talk) 08:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Nomination of Healthways (scuba gear company) for deletion
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Broken redirect
Hello Anthony, you created this Broken redirect.. I assume it was just a typo? I'll leave it with you to fix... JMHamo (talk) 10:47, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Disputing Outlook.com move to Outlook Mail
Hello
I see that you have moved Outlook.com move to Outlook Mail after a WP:RM § TR request. The problem is, I was unaware of such an RM request because I find the move super-highly controversial. (I actually want to know where this strange name has come from!)
What can I do about it? Is there a chance that you revert the move and convert the request to a WP:RM § CM?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 20:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, silent one!
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 21:03, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
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Page moves
- Neither the Wynyard nor the Padstow moves were uncontroversial. Both should have been moved to disambiguation pages. The fact that one station is operational and others are not is not a valid criterion. Is there any way for these moves to be reverted and relisted under the usual (controversial) move procedure? Lamberhurst (talk) 11:18, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Your unexplained revert at Fuck
Please discuss the issue at Talk:Fuck#Unsourced.2FOR.2Fetc.. - SummerPhDv2.0 16:50, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Play ball
- Hi Anthony, I hope you're well; we haven't seen you for a while at Manchester meetups. Anyway, in this edit Special:Diff/677615009, you seem to be introducing us to scuba diving played with a ball. Fun as that sounds, it may have not been what you intended, so I've reverted to the last good version before the vandalism started today. All the best, --RexxS (talk) 15:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- @RexxS: Uhh, oops, sorry, I should have reverted further back. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Thomas Higginson
- I have attempted to sort out this scrambled biography into two biographies Thomas Higginson (Canadian politician) and Thomas Higginson (soldier), the Lieutenant Colonel from Vankleek Hill. My changes were based on online sources. I used a move from Thomas Higginson (which now redirects to the disambig page) to create the latter entry which should preserve its previous history but which also moved the Talk page and so redirected the discussion. --Big_iron (talk) 16:38, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- See Talk:Thomas Higginson (soldier)#Requested move 21 August 2015. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
The Miles Davis Quintet
- Hello, Anthony. I wonder if you would mind moving Workin' with The Miles Davis Quintet and Steamin' with The Miles Davis Quintet to their 'the' versions, Workin' with the Miles Davis Quintet and Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet. I've tried doing this through the proper channels but always come up against a bold red text: "First create [-]..." This will bring them into line with the other two albums in the series. Thanks! Rothorpe (talk) 19:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Rothorpe: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Excellent. Many thanks! Rothorpe (talk) 22:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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History Split
- Hi Anthony, I see you've been taking care of the few history merges I've been tagging recently. Can you take a look at Wikipedia:Help desk#Article overwritten. A user in 2012 overwrote an exisiting article with a new topic, so we need to split the history of the two articles. Thanks - Happysailor (Talk) 17:00, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:54, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- Should we history split Talk:Joe Kovacs too, Joe Kovacs (puppeteer)'s talk page is still part of the other Joe Kovacs's talk. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:00, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Happysailor and WikiOriginal-9:: Talk:Joe Kovacs#WorldNetDaily and "Shocked by the Bible"? says that a third Jim Kovacs may be involved. Best get that query sorted out first. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:33, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Your Nazi edit
- I'm pretty sure there's a prohibition prohibiting adding a link to a disambiguation page to a disambiguation page. Pandeist (talk) 05:50, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Pandeist: I have seen plenty of links from disambig page to disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:58, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Well I'll check, but I believe I've been pegged for just the same thing in the past..... Pandeist (talk) 02:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have checked as promised, and somebody provided a resolution which I am certain is satisfactory all around. Pandeist (talk) 19:26, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well I'll check, but I believe I've been pegged for just the same thing in the past..... Pandeist (talk) 02:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
"Mr Cruel" and Murder of Kylie Maybury
@Anthony Appleyard: Hi. Could you add Murder of Kylie Maybury to your watchlist?
There's some uninformed speculation online that Mr. Cruel kidnapped, raped and killed Kylie and i don't want that to infect Kylie's article. I don't think that Mr Cruel did it - Mr Cruel was careful not to leave forensic evidence, and whoever raped and killed her left their sperm, pubic hair and DNA all over Kylie. Paul Austin (talk) 12:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Ivory-billed woodpecker (version 2) - what's the point?
- Hi there. I'm wondering why you moved a set-index that was considered unwarranted to a name that makes no sense ("version 2" has no relation to the subjects). Please see the previous discussion Here. Basically, since Ivory-billed woodpecker refers to a species containing two subspecies (the American and Cuban varieties) Ivory-billed woodpecker is the place where the 2 subtaxa should be identified. I've found no reliable evidence that any other Campephilus birds are called "ivory-billed woodpecker", nor that it is likely that readers would be confused and need additional navigational assistance beyond what is provided at Ivory-billed woodpecker. An analogy would be turning Slender salamander (a common name for a genus) into a set-index of every species in the genus that has "slender salamander" in its common name (California slender salamander, Oregon slender salamander, etc.) which would be largely redundant since the species are already listed at the genus article. As the title "Ivory-billed woodpecker (version 2)" doesn't seem to be meaningful as a set index or redirect, it may be deleted. But please don't hesitate to explain your reasoning. Cheers, --Animalparty! (talk) 00:06, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Animalparty: I have text-merged Ivory-billed woodpecker (version 2) into Ivory-billed woodpecker#Taxonomy. The current Ivory-billed woodpecker (version 2) is an old deleted WP:Parallel history which I extracted from under page Ivory-billed woodpecker. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:59, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, but does that mean Ivory-billed woodpecker (version 2) needs to stay "live" as a separate article? --Animalparty! (talk) 17:26, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Animalparty: I have deleted Ivory-billed woodpecker (version 2) as surplus. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:51, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Xiaodong Wang
Sorry about getting in your way. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 05:50, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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VPN Unlimited Talk page
- On some weird reason I could not try to submit the VPN Unlimited page. It just let me create it on Talk page and I wanted to ask for some help. Could you please advise why I cannot create a page?
- Thanks! 10:06, 7 September 2015 User:VeVeMe
- @VeVeMe: At 12:27, 1 September 2015 Jimfbleak deleted page VPN Unlimited (Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A7, G11) = "not notable and looks like advertizing".
- (Please sign your messages by appending ~~~~ .) Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:24, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't understand your edit summary here. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 05:56, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Davidwr: In edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Marziah_Karch&oldid=680017039 , you asked for page Talk:Marziah Karch to be history-merged with a deleted version of itself. But the deleted edits of Talk:Marziah Karch contain only redirects and tag template calls and no substantial matter. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Leonese
- Hi. Could you restore Leonese? It's a dialect per our sources. Thanks. — kwami (talk) 02:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Kwamikagami:: I have started a move discussion in Talk:Leonese_language. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- You don't move something as "uncontroversial" and then require a discussion to move it back when it turns out to be controversial. You should just put it back, and start a RfM to make the initial move. — kwami (talk) 05:39, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- No. Per WP:BOLD, it's up to you to justify the move, not up to those opposed to it to pass a RfM to revert it. You're an admin, you should know better.
- I couldn't simply revert your move because you gummed it up so that was not possible. — kwami (talk) 17:19, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Leonese language and User:Kwamikagami
- User:Kwamikagami moved Leonese language to Leonese dialect (temp) and redirected Leonese language to Leonese dialect. He has been moving Leonese language to temporary titles like Leonese dialect () and Leonese dialect (temp) because he disagrees with the move to Leonese language. While his concerns may be valid, they are being addressed in the discussion page, and he should not move articles to temporary titles while it's being discussed. Could you possibly revert his move and protect the article from move? He may also need to be reported to WP:ANI. --Article editor (talk) 02:16, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- As a sidenote, User:Kwamikagami had been reported to WP:ANI 3 years ago. --Article editor (talk) 02:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Article editor: Sorry :: I have felt obliged to move it to Leonese dialect because users have been adding messages to the discussion in a way that would look confusing if I moved the page back to Leonese language. But feel free to add to the discussion. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:44, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- OK, could you delete Leonese dialect () and Leonese dialect (temp) though? They're not really proper redirects. --Article editor (talk) 05:51, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Article editor: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, This article Saidulla Marikkar was created by me, and now it has got replaced to Danusker, How come i have lost the article to Danusker as creator? I didn't expect it , Can you kindly revert the creator back to my name to keep it as record that i have created it? Since S. M. Marikkar article didn't give any references which is violation of WP:V. Please re-consider reverting my name as a creator in Saidulla Marikkar. Thank you ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 22:08, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Here is the evidence i was the original creator: Imgur ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 22:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Alpha Monarch: At 02:08, 24 August 2015 User:Danusker created page S. M. Marikkar. At 16:52, 13 September 2015 User:Alpha Monarch created page Saidulla Marikkar . These 2 pages were about the same subject, and their histories did not overlap in time, so at 18:10, 13 September 2015 User:Obi2canibe asked for these 2 pages to be history-merged, so at 21:55, 13 September 2015 I history-merged them. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Anthony Appleyard: That User:Obi2canibe has been tagging things on my pages including the one at Ministry of Urban Development, He claimed that article “ This article's factual accuracy is disputed” But i have provided the references to support the contents. So the original one at S. M. Marikkar didn't have any references that's a serious violation of WP:V, and the creator of S. M. Marikkar becomes me? in fact i have not created that page, that's obiviously not same subject. I would kindly request you to restore back to old history as that S. M. Marikkar page is only used as stub and now into redirect. I don't want to give the credits to Danusker as “creator” of the page. Either you can remove the history of Danusker since that user's contribution to the article is inefficient. Kindly reconsider reverting these history back to original otherwise i will lose the track of this record and people would claim that i'm not the original creater since the article is on my userpage. That would put me in a ridiculous position if i go to the RfA to show the contributions i have done. Please reconsider. ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 08:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Alpha Monarch:I have put a history note in Talk:Saidulla Marikkar. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:57, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Excellent. Thanks ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 10:08, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
FYI
When you try to ping people when you're moving a discussion from RM/TR to a full RM at the article talk page, the ping never works. No idea exactly why, the notifications system can be a bit finicky. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 05:34, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) For me it's the same, I didn't get any notification when Anthony Appleyard pinged me.. Looks strange ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 08:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- This item was on WP:Requests for history merge. Wouldn't it be usual to delete the draft when the article is created? I'm not up to date on this stuff, but if we keep two copies around indefinitely, there could be the risk of dual maintenance. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:27, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @EdJohnston: If I history-merged Draft:Cachet Chair into Cachet Chair, I would have to leave the latest 7 edits of Draft:Cachet Chair behind to avoid WP:Parallel histories. And, at the apparent copy-and-paste point, there are so many differences in wording (but similar writing style) that Cachet Chair is clearly a fresh start and not a copy. Anyway, both articles are clearly advertisement: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cachet Chair. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Protection level
- Was wondering if you would lower the protection level you installed at the Template:Redirect from initialism page? It's presently at full protection, so could you lower that to template protected? This and one other are the last of these rcat redirects that have not had their protection lowered. Thank you in advance for your consideration! Painius 01:15, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Paine Ellsworth: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:50, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Awesome! Thank you very much, and Best of Everything to You and Yours! – Painius 05:06, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Adding bullets to posts
Why do you add a bullet to the original post in a section? It's uncommon, it causes poor diffs like [2], and it can prevent pings from working in the reply as reported at Template talk:Reply to#No ping. mw:Help:Echo#Technical details says: "The diff chunk must be recognised as an addition of new lines of text, not a change to existing lines.". PrimeHunter (talk) 09:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, PrimeHunter! I was just going to ask the same question, because I had saved the above section link to come back and check for a response. That was how I found out that my protection level request had been done, not by responding to the "ping", which didn't notify me. So AA, you might find the above-referenced discussion informative. Joys! Painius 19:55, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Anthony, wiuld you mind adjusting from Vince Vance & The Valiants > "the", please? Rothorpe (talk) 02:51, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done, I found histmerge needed. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:44, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Rothorpe (talk) 13:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Help us improve wikimeets by filling in the UK Wikimeet survey!
Hello! I'm running a survey to identify the best way to notify Wikimedians about upcoming UK wikimeets (informal, in-person social meetings of Wikimedians), and to see if we can improve UK wIkimeets to make them accessible and attractive to more editors and readers. All questions are optional, and it will take about 10 minutes to complete. Please fill it in at:
Thanks! Mike Peel (talk) 16:57, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
The undiscussed move must be reverted
You have got it wrong. The relevant policies and guidelines say that the undiscussed move must be reverted to allow for an RM to be held, and as such, I filed a request to revert that move. The burden is on those who want to change the article title to lobby for a change, not the other way around. Revert the undiscussed move at once, to allow for an RM. RGloucester — ☎ 17:13, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- Further information can be found at WT:UKT#FGW to GWR and also user talk:Mjroots#Who do you think you are?, where RGloucester has been demanding that I revert a move that was previously discussed and had consensus, and that I remove the move protection which I specifically put in place to prevent a move war. RGloucester has threatened me with "action" but nothing has come of it yet. I pointed him to ANI. Contrary to his assertation, the move was fully discussed as far back as June, when it became known that the name was changing. Mjroots (talk) 17:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- There was never an RM held. A discussion in June has no relevance now. No outside input was solicited. The discussion at a Wikiproject is not sufficient to move an article. Believe me, AN/I is on my agenda. First, however, I need to get this article back to where it should be so that an RM can be held. Priorities. RGloucester — ☎ 17:50, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Odd situation
Hello AA. One of my wikignome projects is working with the Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. Your removal of the protection has caused that article to show up in the category. You did remove the "semi" template but left the "move" one. I think that you may have removed both protections but only one template though that is just a guess. Since there might be good reasons for leaving/restoring the "move" protection I wanted to make you aware of this so you can fix things as you see fit. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 18:02, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking on this and updating me. I hope you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 22:24, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Great Western Railway (train operating company)
So it seems that RGloucester is having severe issues with the existence of the contested technical move request, which he himself contested. Pleas stop bat and instruct him in the correct procedure. He seems to want to disallow any sort of RM tag on the page so he can falsely claim there was no RM and that there is no consensus for the move, even though he's clearly wrong; the entire prior section was a discussion about the title of the article, even if it didn't use the RM. template. (Frankly, I think RG should be booted altogether, as he's an arrogant, battleground-minded pain in the butt who has literally claimed to speak for God. He's either a total troll or really not someone who has all his marbles. Either way, he is not a productive editor, just here to push his ideas with absolutely no respect for consensus or any one else at all. We'd be better off if he'd just shove off for good.) oknazevad (talk) 18:07, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- Talk:Great Western Railway (train operating company) Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:45, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Moving pages
When you did the following move, you forgot to update the archive bot instructions on the talk page. As a result the archive bot has been archiving to the redirect page of archive 3. I have fixed the problem.
- 22:32, 12 April 2015 Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs) m . . (13,607 bytes) (0) . . (Anthony Appleyard moved page Talk:Soviet war in Afghanistan to Talk:Soviet–Afghan War: discussed) (undo | thank)
This came to light after I was cleaning up after another user made a unilateral move of the talk page only.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of La Huacana
A tag has been placed on La Huacana requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either
- disambiguates two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
- disambiguates no (zero) extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title.
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.
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Histmerge
- Hi. Would you be able to merge the history of User:Ryoga Godai/smap with that of SMAP discography? I reworked the article in my sandbox. Thank you. Ryoga (talk) 06:56, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Ryoga Godai: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:25, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. Ryoga (talk) 11:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
T113718
- T113718 affects you when you click on a "move" link in Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 13:57, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Mesoamerican sites
- Please see Talk:Bilbao (Mesoamerican site)#Requested move 24 September 2015. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:31, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Acid-base reaction theories
Hello Anthony Appleyard,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Acid-base reaction theories for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Arbustum (talk) 20:51, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Arbustum: Before putting anything up for deletion, please review the page history and check for vandalism. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:08, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Note
- See User talk:Anthony Appleyard/2015/January-June#Moving 72 subpages. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:25, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Mv request
Hello, Anthony A. Please would you move over two sandbox pages I created to my current user(talk)space?
I'd like User talk:84.92.129.87/sandbox3 and User talk:84.92.129.87/sandbox1 to be under my current IP, which changed yesterday. So that's moves, without leaving redirects, to User talk:87.115.217.225/sandbox3 and User talk:87.115.217.225/sandbox1 respectively. Thanks, 87.115.217.225 (talk) 19:58, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- @87.115.217.225 and 84.92.129.87: Done; but it would help if you registered as a user and got yourself a username. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:49, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for moving them, I appreciate it. –87.115.217.225 (talk) 01:41, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Anthony,
Pete in Australia here. I was working on this draft before you deleted it - of course quite rightly, as it was a blank submission.
This will be a velodrome in the Brisbane suburb of Chandler, Queensland, built for the 2018 Commonwealth Games.
- It's mentioned on the Department of State Development (Queensland) website here.
- It gets mentions in at least this article in The Courier-Mail
- Would it be OK with you if I un-deleted it somtime in the next few weeks or so? No rush, I still have to work out what the predececessor to "Department of State Development (Queensland)" was.
- Your thoughts? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:45, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Shirt58: If you want to re-create an article about the Queensland State Velodrome, do so, perhaps in a page User:Shirt58/Queensland State Velodrome. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Would it be OK with you if I un-deleted it somtime in the next few weeks or so? No rush, I still have to work out what the predececessor to "Department of State Development (Queensland)" was.
Proposed deletion of La Huacana, La Huacana
The article La Huacana, La Huacana has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Not notable independently from La Huacana Municipality; see WP:NOTINHERITED.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
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Pages needing undeletion
- The page Wikipedia:Miscellaneous deletion/Wikipedia:Segítség is linked from the MfD archives. It should be restored (as a redirect to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Segítség). The page being over ten years old may have been linked historical versions of pages etc. and hence should not have been deleted. 103.6.159.77 (talk) 15:03, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- The page Wikipedia talk:Deletion discussion archive cleanup and organization consisted of some significant discussion and hence should not be deleted. Please restore and mark as {{G8-exempt}}. Also restore its redirect Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Votes for extreme deletion which has some incoming links. 103.6.159.77 (talk) 15:03, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- @103.6.159.77: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:37, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Deeply confused by your deletion of Banglastan
- This page was certainly not A1 material, as you stated in your deletion summary, and it even survived an AFD. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Someguy1221:: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Banglastan (2nd nomination). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:05, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Deforestation in India
Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Deforestation_in_India. — Sanskari Hangout 08:46, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Technical/Uncontroversial moves
Hi, you had acted on some move requests from 91.9.120.145. That's a sock fo Tobias Conradi and anything he does is controversial. As you can see, some of the moves he'd requested were reverts of his earlier sock by The Blade of the Northern Lights. We had this really long discussion and AN and painful clean up after his last set of socks in August, that he has now switched to requesting moves as non-controversial instead of performing them himself. FYI. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 18:16, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Can you fix the categories? I can't do that Huritisho (talk) 22:47, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Huritisho:: Please, in detail, what do you want me to do with the categories? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Calcio Padova, again
I think enough consensus to move the page in Talk:Football Padova . Matthew_hk tc 12:05, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Cool Water
Thanks for your stellar work on this article. In case you are interested in the song itself, there's a lot of good, specific information about it HERE. The parent website has a wealth of good material on American western songs. Lou Sander (talk) 16:37, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Irish local elections, 2014
- Hi Anthony, a user moved Irish local elections, 2014 to Republic of Ireland local elections, 2014 in order to differentiate them from Northern Ireland local elections, 2014, and turning Irish local elections, 2014 into a disambiguation page. I have moved that to Irish elections, 2014 in order to be consistent with other pages like Irish elections, 2011. The problem now is that one local election page is at a different format from all the rest, e.g. Irish local elections, NNNN. We don't use Republic of Ireland in the title as that's not the name of the county but the convention is to use Irish for RoI and Northern Ireland for NI. This is used for general elections, e.g. Irish general election, 1969 and Northern Ireland general election, 1969. If you agree with me, can you please move it back to its original title? Snappy (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- 2014 was an exception as local elections were held in both Irish jurisdictions that year. Please move it back. Gob Lofa (talk) 01:24, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- Please ignore this request. Any change to the current convention which I outlined above would have to be discussed at WT:IE. Snappy (talk) 18:42, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- I've previously had no problem with the convention, except now I find it doesn't take into account the years (such as 2014) where local elections simultaneously take place in the other Irish jurisdiction. Gob Lofa (talk) 00:39, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Will you move it? Gob Lofa (talk) 09:38, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Please ignore this request. Any change to the current convention which I outlined above would have to be discussed at WT:IE. Snappy (talk) 18:42, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- 2014 was an exception as local elections were held in both Irish jurisdictions that year. Please move it back. Gob Lofa (talk) 01:24, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Gob Lofa: See Talk:Irish local elections, 2014#Requested move 11 November 2015. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- That'll work for me, thanks. Gob Lofa (talk) 16:00, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Malaysians
Based on 2010 census, Malaysians includes citizens, permanent residents, non-citizens, refugees. In another words, any person residing in Malaysia more than six months (excluding tourists for short vacation) may identify themselves as Malaysian. As a results, 30 millions population is counted without excluding non-citizens. If we excluding non-citizens and overseas Malaysian/diaspora (do not reside in Malaysia more than six months) from Malaysian population, I am sure that less than 20 millions is Malaysian citizens who really residing in Malaysia at the time of census. Malaysian people is not equally same to Malaysian citizens because to gain citizenship is another story. Foreign-born people may gain Malaysian citizenship by registration and naturalization. In short, the Burmese who residing (legally or illegally) in Malaysia still subject to Malaysian law, so it is undisputed words for Burmese to be considered Malaysian. It applies to any foreign-born people who live in Malaysia. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 11:12, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Let me ask you why 2010 census counts 271,899 non-Malaysian citizens as part of the Malaysian population. Why does the Malaysian population do not excluding people who reside in Malaysia more than six months but being a permanent residents, temporary residents, illegal workers, refugees, prisoners, aliens, and any kinds of non-citizens. If we just only count Malaysian citizens as Malaysian, how about Malaysian citizens who study abroad, work abroad or live abroad. Do the Malaysian diasporas who leave Malaysia for more than six months are prohibited to identify themselves as Malaysians and being excluded from the census?? Alexander Iskandar (talk) 15:42, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Alexander Iskandar: Best raise these issues in Talk:Malaysians#Requested move 5 October 2015. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
- There's some messed up history around this, all due to a sockfarm. I see that you had moved parts of it while trying to make sense of it, but the history is all round the place still. I'll try to figure out what's going on and merge the history, but I might have to undo some of your actions in the process. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:43, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- Seems like ETV has licensed the Colors brand for a few of their channels, so the sock decided to move ETV which is an independent network under the Colors umbrella and caused all this confusion with a copy-paste and add-content edit history. —SpacemanSpiff 05:03, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- See Talk:ETV Network#Requested move 11 October 2015. Events:-
- 04:56, 11 October 2015 SpacemanSpiff moved page Colors (Viacom 18) to ETV Network: rvt to pre-sock disruption version; caused far too much confusion
- 04:56, 11 October 2015 SpacemanSpiff deleted page ETV Network (G6: Deleted to make way for move)
- 04:08, 11 October 2015 Anthony Appleyard moved page ETV Network to Colors (Viacom 18) over redirect (second thoughts)
- 04:05, 11 October 2015 Anthony Appleyard moved page Colors (Viacom 18) to ETV Network: Requested at WP:RM as uncontroversial (see permalink)
- 04:02, 11 October 2015 Anthony Appleyard moved page ETV Network to ETV Network (California) without leaving a redirect (get away from incoming)
- 04:01, 11 October 2015 Anthony Appleyard restored page ETV Network (12 revisions restored: get deleted history out from under)
- 04:00, 11 October 2015 Anthony Appleyard moved page ETV Network to ETV Network (India)(version 2) without leaving a redirect (get away from incoming)
- 09:00, 10 October 2015 Devmahatma moved page ETV Network to Colors (Viacom 18) (appropriate name)
- 06:22, 10 April 2007 Cuchullain deleted page ETV Network (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ETV Network)
- Colors (Viacom 18) is in India. There are/were several TV stations called ETV. There seems to be a complicated history of TV stations here. I extracted a deleted WP:Parallel history from under ETV Network and moved it to ETV Network (California) and re-deleted it, as it had been deleted by AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ETV Network. Page ETV Network (California) says that ETV Network (California) became an eVision (which likeliest is/was in USA), but currently eVision redirects to Eircom in Ireland.
- @SpacemanSpiff: Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:43, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- I had to look into this a little deeper to make sense of what was happening here. ETV Network and Viacom 18 are the two networks involved in this. Viacom 18 owns the Colors brand and has licensed it to ETV Network for five regional channels. Both networks have multiple channels in their fold but are independent of each other except for the franchisee relationship on those five. This also took me to another area, see User talk:Swarm#Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colors Kannada for the latter part of this problem. That AfD took the opposing view that the Colors channels have to be redirected to ETV Network. I've now sort of split the on wiki stuff to the two networks (or at least I think I have). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:26, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:43, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Missed one?
Goliath? ~ 223.205.244.55 (talk) 05:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- @223.205.244.55: Uhh, it was inserted as I was working. Thanks. Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! 223.205.244.55 (talk) 05:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Recent move
- You might want to reverse: Pethmakhama (talk | contribs) moved page Relics of Muhammad to Relics of Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Cheers! Johnbod (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 04:20, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Stepping stone (computer security)
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Beak
- Hi Anthony: Do you have a reference for the fact that "grasping and holding on to a large squirming frog" is a reason for large nails on waterfowl bills? Because I'm not aware of any ducks/swans/geese that eat large frogs, though a few species will eat tadpoles and the occasional peepers if other food is lacking. MeegsC (talk) 19:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MeegsC: There are several Youtube videos of it, e.g. [3] and [4]. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:33, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Sexual slavery
Hello,
What's the story with Sexual slavery/version 2? I've never seen a chunk of page history moved away and completely orphaned like that before.
Thanks, — Scott • talk 23:22, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Scott: Way back around 7 June 2009 someone asked me to make a page move, and thus at 15:36, 7 June 2009 I moved the then-existing page White slavery to Sexual slavery/version 2 to get it out of the way of an incoming page which was being renamed, as it is not a good idea to leave a deleted WP:Parallel history sitting under a visible edit history. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's fair enough. That said, I don't think it's good to completely isolate parts of the database. I'll find somewhere on a related talk page to make a note of it. Thanks! — Scott • talk 15:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- I see the problem: there was an unattributed copy and paste move from 2008, and somebody also subsequently deleted the talk page of the forked copy without checking its history. I've restored it to Talk:Sexual slavery/version 2 with a note and indicated attribution at Talk:Sexual slavery. — Scott • talk 17:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's fair enough. That said, I don't think it's good to completely isolate parts of the database. I'll find somewhere on a related talk page to make a note of it. Thanks! — Scott • talk 15:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Scott: See also WT:How to fix cut-and-paste moves#Discussion regarding titling standards for moving parallel histories. 103.6.159.84 (talk) 17:26, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Two things
- Please restore User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Anti-Vaccination Society of America as a redirect to Anti-Vaccination Society of America. Also create the redirect User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Anders Örbom with text
#REDIRECT [[Anders Örbom]] {{R from move}}
. The user Richard Arthur Norton's userspace drafts are being reviewed and moved to mainspace by other users (as he himself is banned from doing so). As such, the existence of these redirects is necessary for tracking purposes. 103.6.159.84 (talk) 17:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC) - Also move User talk:Anti-Vaccination Society of America without leaving a redirect to Talk:Anti-Vaccination Society of America. (Repair of a broken page move). 103.6.159.84 (talk) 17:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- @103.6.159.84: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Found one more: Please create User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/William Lawrence Saunders with text
#REDIRECT [[William Lawrence Saunders]] {{R from move}}
. 103.6.159.75 (talk) 07:14, 21 October 2015 (UTC) - @103.6.159.75: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:54, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- A few more redirects for creation: (These pages have too many links to them)
Non-controversial move
- Hi, reg this move, the new title isn't her name. Divya [Venkata]Subramaniam is her name while Kanika is her stage name; the new title (which was also an old title from which I moved to Kanika (actress) earlier) is a mix of her stage and real names and outside of Wikipedia and mirrors no one uses it that way. Perhaps the disambiguation is insufficient, but I'm not sure this move is the right one, maybe Kanika (South Indian film actress). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 02:47, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:00, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure why you moved this? I'd left a pretty clear note about it and was waiting for the IP to reply. Jenks24 (talk) 08:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC't know the sub's name.
- @Jenks24: "Bayou St. John (submarine)" would mean "a submarine named Bayou St. John". We don't know the submarine's name. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:45, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. I misread the article. By the way, your ping to me didn't work here, I think it has something to do with the bullet points. Jenks24 (talk) 08:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Ping to close?
- The RM [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Calf_(disambiguation) here] of Oct 18 is a total mess and probably a snow close due to procedural foulups (one person suggested we close it and then someone else can do a more proper RM). Can you do the honors? Montanabw(talk) 21:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- I closed it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- I cannot find this in the history of Isembard, Count of Autun. Can you point me to it? Thanks, Srnec (talk) 23:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Srnec: OK, I have now undeleted it. It is at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isembard,_Count_of_Autun&oldid=558686222 . Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Marks Barfield / Marks Barfield Architects
- I was surprised to see this processed as 'contested' - it was requested as a "Requests to revert undiscussed moves:" (with what I thought was a solid and uncontroversial rationale & per countless precedents, and it had no prior move history - I thought the drill was to revert (sensibly) contested undiscussed moves first, and then discuss as necessary? - that's certainly what happened when I made similar requests in the past) - so I'm wondering if it got processed as an "Uncontroversial technical requests:" in error? 223.205.244.220 (talk) 03:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @223.205.244.220:: I have now made the move. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. 223.205.244.220 (talk) 11:01, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Subscription television
You were the one who created the redirect to Pay television. Subscription television is a more general term than "Pay television" as used in Wikipedia. That article concerns only the premium services. I was thinking about making "Subscription television" a general article about cable, satellite, and similar services. It would probably also have to include services such as Hulu and Amazon. But the idea is that MVPD is a U.S. term and concerns only these services (but not Hulu or Amazon, at least so far) in the United States. Any thoughts on this? — Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:01, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Vchimpanzee:: If you want to edit pages Pay television and Subscription television, then do so. I live in England and I am not familiar with USA television stations and how they get money. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- So you wouldn't be familiar enough to make the distinction. Also, I happened to read on Talk:Pay television that there is no distinction between regular and premium channels in the UK. Which makes the Pay television article problematic as people have argued against changing its name, even though content about pay TV in general from other countries missing from MVPD can be found there. Outside the U.S., that article functions as a version of MVPD that includes other countries. So maybe Subscription television should redirect there, but only if we can convince those who argue for Pay television to be about premium channels to change their minds.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:48, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
With this ever dramatic world and winter coming, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 05:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
ANI
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jeppiz (talk) 00:04, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- This is at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Puppet-master Article Editor performs massive OR violations. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:35, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Van der Aa
- Hi are you done with this? Because I don't get how you left it. The problem is that Van der Aa should redirect to the top guy because that is what is meant in 99% of the cases that it is used. The rest should just go onto the disambig page. Apparently the histmerge was necessary, but now it looks like nothing happened. Jane (talk) 19:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Jane023: I have put it back to Abraham Jacob van der Aa being the dominant meaning. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:39, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Ah yes I see now. Thanks, it all works fine now! Jane (talk) 22:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi (Gujrat)
- Hi, moving Gujrat city to Gujrat was controversial move and should have been discussed. Gujrat city was better name to avoid confusion with Indian state Gujarat. "Gujrat" is very common variant spelling of Gujarat. On google search of "Gujrat" it gives all results of "Gujarat", even they say "did you mean Gujarat". Largest news dailies of India like Times of India uses variant spelling "Gujrat" for "Gujarat". Even if you search 'Gujrat city" on google, it will show cities in Gujarat state of India. Name Gujrat is always means state of India. I think earlier arrangement was better and there should have been discussion for this move. You can ask that editor who asked to move to go for WP:RM. Gujarat City is best name for that city. Can you restore it? Thank you. --Human3015TALK 22:41, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hey there. Gujrat is the official name of the city. The Times of India isn't really a good example of its use and is effeminately not neutral. The official name for the state is Gujarat and the initial move was controversial. Gujrat is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Gujrat".Filpro (talk) 18:33, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Human3015: I have moved page Gujrat back to Gujrat city. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:50, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't think it would be too confusing. Filpro (talk) 16:05, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Anthony. And Filpro you should try WP:RM. It is confusing. Gujrat city is good name. --Human3015TALK 03:53, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- We got it moved back to Gujrat City, thanks. Filpro (talk) 17:09, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Anthony. And Filpro you should try WP:RM. It is confusing. Gujrat city is good name. --Human3015TALK 03:53, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, so I finished another article. Are you sure it's a good idea to move this over the main article? This time, there might be some back clash since it's probably a more popular article than the previous ones I had moved. Thanks. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 10:23, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'll just cut and paste then. Thanks anyways. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 18:12, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
I have borked up a page move, yet again
Hey Anthony and @Xezbeth:
I have severely borked up page moves about Bourneville and Bourneville (disambiguation).
(And quite possibly many other stuff-ups that have yet to be identified.)
Could you possibly have a little look into this?
Thank you! Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 13:35, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Fixed. One thing to look out for when moving pages in general is whether the talk page was also moved with the article – once you've made the move there will be a little message about it below the successful page move box. Jenks24 (talk) 14:55, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Reverting move
Hello Anthony, could you revert this move please. This is not an uncontroversial move. And in general, please stop executing requests by user Filpro. The guy seems to be on a quest to make every page on India the primary topic and has racked up a talk page full of controversy. --Midas02 (talk) 08:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Midas02 Hi! Are you suggesting that Sirsa, Haryana is in no way the primary topic of Sirsa? Care to elaborate? I like to keep my talk page cluttered, thanks for noting that. Filpro (talk) 20:08, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Miss Universe 2015 - history merge?
Hello! I am contacting you because you have a lot of experience in history merges. Here's the situation: For almost a year there has been an article about Miss Universe 2015. It was converted to a redirect to Miss Universe, because none of the details about the actual event had been confirmed. There were so many attempts to re-expand it to an article that I full-protected the article, per a request at WP:RFPP, on October 10. It is still a redirect. but the full-protection was removed today because the details were finally confirmed. In the interim, another article was created called The 64th Miss Universe Pageant. It has been heavily edited and has remained live as an article, even though the details were still not confirmed. As of today the details were confirmed and were added to the "64th Miss Universe" article. "Miss Universe 2015" remains a redirect for the moment.
So now the question is, what to do? The information should be in an article called "Miss Universe 2015". The easiest thing would be to delete "Miss Universe 2015" per G6, and move the article "The 64th Miss Universe Pageant" to "Miss Universe 2015". But there is a lot of history at "Miss Universe 2015"; does that require us to do a history merge of the two articles? I defer to your experience on this question. Thanks! --MelanieN (talk) 00:11, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MelanieN: Of the pages that you mention:
- The 64th Miss Universe Pageant runs from 13:14, 1 October 2015 to 05:14, 29 October 2015.
- Miss Universe 2015 runs from 01:17, 7 November 2014 to 20:01, 9 October 2015 as text, with 5 redirects & protection-changing after.
- Miss Universe 2015's deleted edits ran from 12:38, 12 April 2014 to 09:32, 4 August 2014, and after that a new creation (also deleted) from 12:59, 16 August 2014 to 13:03, 16 August 2014.
- Miss Universe runs from before 23:07, 16 June 2009 to 02:12, 29 October 2015, and it has more than 5000 edits, so I as an ordinary admin would be unable to delete it, even temporarily as for histmerging.
- So far I see no sign of a plain complete cut-and-paste move anywhere in this lot, thus no absolute need for a histmerge.
- The abovementioned old deleted edits of Miss Universe 2015 are now (undeleted) at Miss Universe 2015/version 2.
- Miss Universe 2015 was deleted at 14:19, 12 April 2014 (G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page) and 16:20, 4 August 2014 (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Universe 2015) and 17:57, 16 August 2014 (G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion).
- Best move Miss Universe 2015 and Miss Universe 2015/version 2 and their talk pages and any archives aside to somewhere, and then move The 64th Miss Universe Pageant to Miss Universe 2015, as I do not like an article sitting over a deleted WP:Parallel history in case of accidents if afterwards it needs to be temporarily deleted (e.g. for histmerge). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:01, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MelanieN:I have now history-merged Miss Universe 2015/version 2 back into Miss Universe 2015, as they have no parallel history. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:11, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MelanieN and Mr. Stradivarius: If, as has been suggested, I move the existing Miss Universe 2015 to Talk:Miss Universe 2015/somewhere, what should happen to the existing page Talk:Miss Universe 2015? Creating a page named Talk:Talk:somewhere seems wrong. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think it matters too much as long as it is available somewhere. How about "Talk:Miss Universe 2015/old history" and "Talk:Miss Universe 2015/old talk history"? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Or maybe we could think of a plausible redirect title, move the old history there, then turn it into a redirect? That might be more elegant. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:34, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think it matters too much as long as it is available somewhere. How about "Talk:Miss Universe 2015/old history" and "Talk:Miss Universe 2015/old talk history"? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- I found the page Miss Universe 2015 edition. Will it be deleted? 114.109.12.82 (talk) 08:28, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- It is a redirect where at 03:25, 1 April 2015 Kharkiv07 moved Miss Universe 2015 edition to User:Missgalaxy0312/Miss Universe 2015 edition. See Special:Contributions/Missgalaxy0312. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:21, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MelanieN, Mr. Stradivarius, and 114.109.12.82: Or move Miss Universe 2015 and The 64th Miss Universe Pageant to each others' names? I have seen name-swop suggestions before. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:24, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, Anthony, and sorry to drag you into such a messy situation. The main thing is that we now have an article at Miss Universe 2015. I think saving one of the histories at a redirect would solve the problem. Then do we still need to combine or somehow deal with the talk pages? There is very little commentary at the "64th" page; IMO leaving it as a redirect to Talk:Miss Universe 2015 would be fine. --MelanieN (talk) 15:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MelanieN, Mr. Stradivarius, and 114.109.12.82: If I have to history-merge page X to page Y, and each has one talk page and no archives, sometimes I move Talk:X to Talk:Y/Archive 1 , and provide {{archive}} and {{archives}} tags, if Talk:X is older than Talk:Y . Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:27, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- I had also wondered about making an "archive" out of the "64th" talk page - or we could keep it attached to the redirected "64th". I think I see what you meant about the "swop". What we have here, is that the text we want to keep is at "the 64th" but the title we want to use is "MU 2015", and we want to keep both histories somewhere (no merge necessary). So what you are suggesting is something like this: park the current content and history of MU2015 somewhere else, delete MU2015 per G6, move The 64th to MU2015, and then move the parked content to The 64th and redirect it - is that right? That should work and it's actually pretty elegant. But I will go with whatever you suggest, you are the expert here. --MelanieN (talk) 17:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
While we have been discussing it, somebody expanded the "MU 2015" redirect back to an article, and redirected "The 64th" to it. Since then the MU 2015 page has been heavily edited, people are bringing it up to date. Maybe we could just leave it as is and let people improve the MU 2015 article, rather than try to capture the improvements that were made at The 64th. That would certainly be the easiest way to handle it! {{ping|The Banner|Mr. Stradivarius|114.109.12.82}} Are you OK with that outcome? --MelanieN (talk) 18:11, 29 October 2015 (UTC)- Never mind - I see that you did a lot of moving around, and we now have a full article at MU 2015 with a full history. Is it all OK now? --MelanieN (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- I had also wondered about making an "archive" out of the "64th" talk page - or we could keep it attached to the redirected "64th". I think I see what you meant about the "swop". What we have here, is that the text we want to keep is at "the 64th" but the title we want to use is "MU 2015", and we want to keep both histories somewhere (no merge necessary). So what you are suggesting is something like this: park the current content and history of MU2015 somewhere else, delete MU2015 per G6, move The 64th to MU2015, and then move the parked content to The 64th and redirect it - is that right? That should work and it's actually pretty elegant. But I will go with whatever you suggest, you are the expert here. --MelanieN (talk) 17:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
RfC on Frogman
Hi Anthony, As creator of the article with its current subject, and probably the major contributor in number of edits, you might be interested in the ongoing discussion on the talk page. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:24, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Diego Vel\xC3\xA1zquez listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Diego Vel\xC3\xA1zquez. Since you had some involvement with the Diego Vel\xC3\xA1zquez redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix (talk) 05:34, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Destructive copy-paste page move by user
- Hi. A few days ago, I listed SBS 2 on the technical move requests list. and gave my solid reasoning as to why the page needed to be moved to its correct location. I was shocked to recently discover that Billy Liakopoulos has blatantly ignored the technical move and has moved the page to SBS2 via the destructive copy-paste move method, destroying the page history. He has also rushed through the former links to the original page and changed them to suit his page move, so that no redirects are required. Can you please help me revert his destructive page move and restore the article to its status before his edits, and warn him that this is not the correct way to go about page moves. I would do it myself, but I believe that if it comes from an editor of higher status and experience, he may listen to reason. He also appears to not monitor his talk page, and I believe that if I were to post a normal message, it would not be seen amidst the clutter of other notices and warnings. Thanks. Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 12:33, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Nick Mitchell 98: I have history-merged SBS2 to SBS 2. For how to request a page move, see Wikipedia:Requested moves. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:46, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Merge
- Not sure how to do this and saw your name on the history merge page or whatever. Colin Fraser (ice hockey) and Colin Fraser need a history merge. The cut and paste makes it look like Colin Fraser (ice hockey) was created today, erasing eight years of page history. Colin Fraser (Australian politician) and Colin Fraser (politician) need fixing too. Thx WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 20:07, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, i was just explaining the problem to the newish editor who did the cut-and-paste move, at User talk:Canadaolympic989, then I see you are addressing it. The 4-person disambiguation page was a good thing though. Can you restore that at Colin Fraser (perhaps you're doing that already) or should it just be re-created it there? Thanks for your help. --doncram 23:50, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9 and Doncram: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:57, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Requested move
Hi, I've started a discussion at Talk:Westfield Derby about moving articles to "Intu" X and I'm only notifying you as you participated in a previous move,
BTW sorry if you got a ping earlier - Something went wrong so figured I'd just post this to everyone instead, Fun times! ,
Anyway thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:27, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Nerul Balaji Temple, Maharashtra
The article Nerul Balaji Temple, Maharashtra has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Unsourced since creation, claims no notability, fails WP:GNG.
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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:34, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- Ref found. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:59, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- This ref is "Powered by Blogger"; not WP:RS. And as seen from image I am not disputing the existence of it; so Google Earth isn't much helpful. I now noticed that you had simply separated it out of Tividale Tirupathy Balaji Temple. So I suppose you weren't actually indenting to create an article on tis, but to simply clean the original one. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:08, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
FYI
Hello AA. I wanted to let you know that Nephiliskos jumped the gun on the requested move here Talk:King Scorpion#Requested move 31 October 2015 by copy/pasting King Scorpion (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Scorpion II (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and then placing a "speedy deletion tag" on the first article. I know that, if the move is approved, it will have to be done through a merge so that the edit history is not lost so I have reverted things to where they were before N's edits. Sam Sailor has already left N a message about this but I wanted to make you aware of the situation in case further explanation is needed. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 11:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
History merge
Template:Tq/doc should be history merged into Template:Talk quotation/doc, as Template:Tq was moved to Template:Talk quotation. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Magomed Mustafaev
- Hello. Please consider reinstating this page that was speedily deleted. Would have really liked to have had more time to fully flesh out the article before it was deleted. It is discouraging to put effort into a page like this -- my first in many years -- only to have it deleted within a few hours of creation. How are new editors supposed to learn the ropes if their contributions are deleted immediately? Zyarb (talk) 14:39, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Zyarb: Done, at Magomed Mustafaev. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:12, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- Also, Zyarb: since you don't edit very often, you may not be aware that the purpose of the Wikipedia "sandbox" is to allow editors to put together articles at their own pace without risk of deletion (speedy or otherwise). It's the answer to all your problems! Consider giving it a try the next time you want to create an article, and then moving that article into the mainspace (via the "Move" function) when you feel it is ready for public consideration and scrutiny. Would save you a lot of headache. Thanks! KDS4444Talk 06:38, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Very helpful! Thank you for the tip! Zyarb (talk) 21:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Also, Zyarb: since you don't edit very often, you may not be aware that the purpose of the Wikipedia "sandbox" is to allow editors to put together articles at their own pace without risk of deletion (speedy or otherwise). It's the answer to all your problems! Consider giving it a try the next time you want to create an article, and then moving that article into the mainspace (via the "Move" function) when you feel it is ready for public consideration and scrutiny. Would save you a lot of headache. Thanks! KDS4444Talk 06:38, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Speedy of Suns Dancers
Hey, Anthony! You removed the article Suns Dancers following my CSD nomination of it recently, and the original author (User:AntonioMartin) has asked if he can have access to it again so that he can improve it (?). Can the deleted article be userfied? Could you let him know if so? Thank you! KDS4444Talk 06:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:39, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks guys! God bless! Antonio Gerber Baby Martin (aqui) 07:50, November 8, 2015 (UTC)
Moving moved pages
Hi, are you the person I go to if I want to move a page to a title that it has had previously? Gob Lofa (talk) 09:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Gob Lofa: Please, what do you want to be done? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- I'd like to move Protestants of Ulster back to Ulster Protestants (its original title), please. It was changed to a redirect in the meantime but that didn't stick. Gob Lofa (talk) 09:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Great stuff, ta. Gob Lofa (talk) 10:01, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/User:Manny Weapons
Re. [5], the solution was either to delete the page, or to decline the request for deletion rather than <nowiki> it without dealing with the request itself. I guess <noinclude> also would had worked if you wanted to leave it to another admin. -- KTC (talk) 12:45, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
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Hongchi Xiao
Would you please recover the draft Hongchi Xiao? I have spent a lot of time working on it. The feedbacks were not very clear. I am not sure what part of the draft that was not accepted. I am willing to do whatever it takes to improve. Thank you! jdxzhu 15:16, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Jdxzhu: Someone has already undeleted it, at Draft:Hongchi Xiao. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thank you very much for your help! You have saved me a lot of time!!! I appreciate you!
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3 revert requests
Hello Anthony - I requested three reverts of undiscussed title changes, at Slights, Counterpart, and Balladeering. You converted them to RMs. Would you please retract the RMs, or at least change the titles to the previous status quo? It should be the burden of the person wanting to make the change to bring the RM and make their case, not the other way around. I would have changed the titles myself, but was not able to do so technically. This should be an automatic revert - thanks. Dohn joe (talk) 01:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Dohn joe, In ictu oculi, and Bruce1ee: I could see at once that if I had obeyed those 3 reverts as uncontroversial I would have been facing the hot end of a flamethrower firing squad of objectors, and so it turned out as shown in Talk:Balladeering (album)#Requested move 10 November 2015, Talk:Counterpart (TV series)#Requested move 10 November 2015, Talk:Slights (novel)#Requested move 10 November 2015, and I am caught both ways. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- But the point is that these pages were boldly moved without discussion. They should be moved back before any RM discussion. I've pointed this out to you before (search for my name, or for Jenks to see why the reverts should happen). Dohn joe (talk) 15:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- User:Anthony Appleyard "flamethrower firing squad of objectors", I hope you know that wouldn't be me. Seriously, I hope you don't think that. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:54, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- User:Dohn joe, we have WP:MOVE which allows editors to make commonsense moves for example The Lawsuit (Gogol) and The Lawsuit (opera) and yet you're objecting to these as well. Any word in the English language, shrub wandering potholes fizzy (totally random examples, I have no idea where those lead) could conceivably have a redirect to another article, but could also have a stub creation for an entertainment product squatting on the baseline - as was the case with Talk:Parachutes (album) Talk:Bookends (album), and those were notable, while these examples you're picking here are not remotely notable. If you have a good case, and a case that doesn't simply depend on inertia and status quo, then argue from reliable sources why these words slights, counterpart, balladeering should take readers to media products not topics related to the subject. And do so in the RM, which you have now. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:53, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- User:Anthony Appleyard "flamethrower firing squad of objectors", I hope you know that wouldn't be me. Seriously, I hope you don't think that. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:54, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- But the point is that these pages were boldly moved without discussion. They should be moved back before any RM discussion. I've pointed this out to you before (search for my name, or for Jenks to see why the reverts should happen). Dohn joe (talk) 15:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WPW page moves
Thank you for moving those Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia pages per my request at WP:RM/TR. I brought it to the attention of a few administrators at the time, but with all the cleanup work that needed to be done, those fell through the cracks.
Just a quick adjustment needed, this title has an accidental extra "e": Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/talents pagee.
Best Regards,—Godsy(TALKCONT) 17:58, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Done @Godsy:, now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/talents page. Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/talents page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:33, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Nomination of Nerul Balaji Temple, Maharashtra for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nerul Balaji Temple, Maharashtra is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nerul Balaji Temple, Maharashtra until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:56, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Anthony Appleyard,
Can you take a look at these two pages? It appears to me that United Paramount Network was a redirect to UPN for some time, but recently someone did a copy-and-paste "move" to United Paramount Network and made UPN into a dab page. Can you assess where the UPN channel page should be at, and do a histmerge if necessary?
Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 17:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Natg 19: At 18:01, 17 November 2015 User:The Banner reverted it. The proper disambig page is UPN (disambiguation). United Paramount Network is most of the time a redirect, interrupted sometimes by quickly-reverted cut-and-paste attempts. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:51, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Requested moves
Hi, Anthony. I wonder if you'd mind moving the following:
Make It Happen (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles album) to Make It Happen (Smokey Robinson and the Miracles album)
Meet The Residents to Meet the Residents
Black-and-White to Black and White
Thanks! Rothorpe (talk) 17:45, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks, Anthony. Rothorpe (talk) 15:19, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Most of these make sense, but I do wonder why we're moving Junior Walker to Jr. Walker. Most sources (including this one) seem to favour the former. This is Paul (talk) 15:43, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Done moved back to Junior Walker. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:57, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- The record labels all say Jr. Walker. But I suppose this is a case of secondary source over primary. Rothorpe (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
List of British engineers and their patents
The discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of British engineers and their patents seems to be deadlocked. Can you help please? Biscuittin (talk) 13:42, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Merge History request for two User Pages on same topic
Anthony, I saw that you were an active administrator with knowledge of History Mergers. I have such a problem. One student of mine wrote a bio and it had problems. Another student wrote a bio on the same person. I would like the two histories to be merged before I move the final into Wikipedia. The first and older article is User:Ctmusall/Satoru Someya. The most recent version that I want to move into Wikipedia after the history merger is User:Crtew/Satoru Someya. Can you do this for me? Or did I use the wrong process and perhaps go elsewhere? Thank you for your attention or advice on this matter, Crtew (talk) 03:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Crtew: Unfortunately, these two pages were being edited at the same time, and thus they are WP:Parallel histories (which see), and cannot be history-merged. Sorry. These two pages will have to be text-merged. Two pages X and Y can only be history-merged if X was completely cleanly blanked and its contents were used to start a new page Y or used to completely replace the existing contents of Y. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:54, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- I have no idea what text merged means. Can you point me to how to do that? Crtew (talk) 07:09, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Crtew: Replace either X or Y by new text which incorporates all the matter described in X and in Y, removing duplications and keeping the result tidy. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:24, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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List of British engineers
I have agreed, in principle, to move List of British engineers and their patents to User:Biscuittin/List of lesser-known British engineers. Is this OK with you? If so, could you please close the discussion. Biscuittin (talk) 21:18, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- The article has suddenly been deleted. I have re-created it at User:Biscuittin/List of lesser-known British engineers but the edit history has been lost. What do you want to do about List of British engineers? Biscuittin (talk) 20:15, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Biscuittin: undelete and histmerge Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:35, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for updating the history of the List of British engineers too. I suppose you're finished now, right? I'll pick up with the improvements which were interrupted by the AFD but first I'll put a history of the matter on its talk page, in case we need to refer back to it. Andrew D. (talk) 10:41, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- I have put some history at Talk:List_of_British_engineers#History. Please could you userfy List of British engineers (temp) to my userspace so that I can check the details remaining in its history. Andrew D. (talk) 12:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: There is no history (deleted or undeleted) at List of British engineers (temp), except one redirect. I history-merged all its history into User:Biscuittin/List of lesser-known British engineers: Revision history. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:24, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, that's clearer, thanks. Andrew D. (talk) 12:29, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Question
Hello Anthony, could you please let me know if I nominated Draft:Fauster Atta Mensah/Fauster atta mensah for deletion? I am trying to fugure something out, no big deal really. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:41, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- @JMHamo: At 20:46, 14 November 2015 User:JMHamo inserted a speedy-delete request into page Draft:Fauster Atta Mensah/Fauster atta mensah. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you.. you answered my question. Have a good one. JMHamo (talk) 21:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps you can help
- Hello, Anthony Appleyard -- I saw a comment by you on the Adam's Bridge talk page about two years ago, and it seemed that you might know Arabic. I thought, if you're not too busy, you might be able to help resolve a dispute between two editors. See User talk:Iryna Harpy#A certain user insists and claims that I 'mistranslated' some sources, but then refuses many requests to show why he thinks I did so.. You'll see that Iryna said she was unable to help. Corinne (talk) 21:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Corinne: Unfortunately, my knowledge of Arabic is limited. I can see the textual differences. You say "mistranslated"; translating into Arabic from which other language?; or does the "certain user" mean "miscopied"?; or what? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- I have no part in the dispute. The two editors and the articles are mentioned in this discussion. Corinne (talk) 00:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Sword grass
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- @TheInformativePanda: Page Gheorghe Amihălăchioaie is now a redirect. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:28, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Anthony! Could you delete this redirect? I want to put User:Johnbod/Persian art there. I will tidy up the related articles later. Thanks Johnbod (talk) 18:42, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: Your article seems to be a new duplicate of the establisted article Iranian art and is WP:Parallel histories with it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Huh? There is no overlap at all. The redirect has no history. I just want you to delete the redirect so that I can use the title. Iranian art should then go to Arts of Iran probably - its scope is entirely different. No history merge needed. Johnbod (talk) 03:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: Moves Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks! I've tidied up the leads, cats etc. Johnbod (talk) 13:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
"Uncontroversial move"
I'd be curious to hear from you how this can be considered uncontroversial when it runs directly opposite of the latest RM consensus.... ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 00:24, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Salvidrim!:: I have reverted that move, See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=693928884 . Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:39, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- I saw that, but when you perform the action, you're responsible. Do you look to see if "technical requests" are actually attempts at circumventing established RM consensus? ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 05:47, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Moved to ungrammatical
- Edit just now: "Chicbyaccident moved page Role of the Christian Church in civilization to Role of the Christianity in civilization (rollback: 1 edit | undo | thank) - no discussion. I think the old title is better as more specific. Johnbod (talk) 03:39, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: I have moved Role of the Christianity in civilization to Role of Christianity in civilization (grammar), but move back to Role of the Christian Church in civilization should be discussed. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:16, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. Not sure I see the logic there .... Johnbod (talk) 15:11, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Nomination of Colored days of the week for deletion
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Nomination of La Huacana, La Huacana for deletion
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Requested move: Listening Post (TV programme)
Hello again, could you please move the following:
Listening Post (TV programme) > The Listening Post.
It recently added the The, which disambiguiates nicely.
Thanks! Rothorpe (talk) 19:49, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Updating links after a move
- Hi Anthony. Do you update incoming wikilinks after executing a requested move? If so, are there any tools or scripts to do this quickly? --NeilN talk to me 03:31, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- @NeilN: Moving a page (by default) leaves a redirect behind itself. That may cause a redirect to a redirect; there is a bot that cleans up such "double redirects". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:34, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. --NeilN talk to me 14:17, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Request for Page Move Ilayaraja to Ilaiyaraaja
Hello, many thanks for the page move. but, the page was originally named as Ilaiyaraaja with redirection with name Ilayaraja. and the talk page link regarding the issue [[6]]. -- KingDiggi 10:02, 9 December 2015
Dad gummit
Dad gummit, Anthony. What's the point of having a "Requests to revert undiscussed moves" if you don't implement it? In ictu made three undiscussed moves, that were controversial. I would have undone them myself, but couldn't. So I put them in the "Requests to revert undiscussed moves" section. If In ictu really believes in these moves, he should propose them himself in an RM. But moving them back to the previous stable title first is the proper way to do it - even if you disagree with the title. This has happened a half dozen times already, and you continue to insert your opinion in a process that should be nearly automatic, as Jenks explained to you further up this talk page. Do you understand my frustration here? Dohn joe (talk) 14:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Dohn joe: I could see that these 3 requested reverts would be strongly opposed, as the discussions in Talk:Burial Ground (Grave album) Talk:Caminando (Amaia Montero song) Talk:Country Mile (Johnny Flynn album) prove. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:01, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- I understand that, but it's not the point. Whenever possible, it should up to the person wanting to make a change to bring the RM and make the case. That's all I'm asking - to return the titles to their previously stable versions, and go from there. Even if it's an 18-2 !vote, at least it's been done the right way. Doesn't that make sense? Dohn joe (talk) 21:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Anthony - do you understand my point? Dohn joe (talk) 17:45, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Dohn joe: I understand. But see WP:SNOW about something that is very unlikely to be accepted. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:19, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Anthony. I do appreciate and respect much of the work you do around here, but you're still missing the point. Dohn joe (talk) 22:24, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- I understand that, but it's not the point. Whenever possible, it should up to the person wanting to make a change to bring the RM and make the case. That's all I'm asking - to return the titles to their previously stable versions, and go from there. Even if it's an 18-2 !vote, at least it's been done the right way. Doesn't that make sense? Dohn joe (talk) 21:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
@Dohn joe: Assuming I'm active, just list these sorts of requests on my talk page from now on. It is ridiculous that some (very few) admins feel they can decline a request simply because they supported the original move. I'm sick of closing any RMs as "no consensus, default to status quo" when they have been declined at RM/TR. Talk:Case Closed is a great case of where this caused a complete mess. Jenks24 (talk) 12:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jenks24 - I appreciate it. Dohn joe (talk) 22:24, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Just dropping by to say that I agree with Jenks24 here. Wikipedia:Snowball clause is not a Wikipedia policy or guideline; it's just an essay. It's an essay that we don't really apply at RM. Per the closing instructions, "Please only apply these after the normal seven day listing period has elapsed." We don't call a holiday on discussion on day one, no matter how bad the weather forecast looks. Regards, Wbm1058 (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Mahāyānasaṃgraha
Thanks!!! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 11:30, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Voices (band)
Hello, I am the creator of Voices (band), which you recently deleted. Based on my reading of WP: Notability and WP:Not, the page appears to meet the criteria. It involves a band with two releases on a well-established indie label, with connections to two established bands (Akercocke and My Dying Bride), and coverage in established media. The article that I was working on demonstrated this. I would appreciate if it could be restored. If I am in error, then so be it...but I would appreciate at least knowing why I am in error so that I don't waste time creating future articles that do not meet the criteria. thanks. Wolfinruins (talk) 01:53, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Wolfinruins: Done I have undeleted Voices (band) and its talk page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:33, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Wolfinruins (talk) 03:25, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
British Nationality Law and the Republic of Ireland
I'd like to move British Nationality Law and the Republic of Ireland to British nationality law and the Republic of Ireland, but am unable. Can you help? Gob Lofa (talk) 16:16, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Wishing you all the best . . .
Merry Christmas, Anthony, and may your holidays be merry and bright . . . . Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:09, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm a little unsure of all the technical restriction, but it seems that someone decided on 25 December last year to cut and paste the article from List of Star Wars films cast members to List of Star Wars cast members and update it there. Can a WP:HISTMERGE really not be done for this? It seems fairly straightforward to me, but like I said, I'm not up to speed. --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Robsinden: What happened on Christmas 2014 was that User:190.214.155.172 text-merged List of Star Wars films cast members into List of Star Wars cast members. The history-merging system cannot handle the result of text-merges. And see WP:Parallel histories. This request has already been submitted and handled: see Wikipedia:Requests for history merge#Rejected requests. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:24, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
The request for delete page MiTAC Holdings
- Hi Anthony,our subcompany MiTAC Holdings page had deleted because of the copyright issue.MiTAC Holdings is belong to the MiTAC company.Please give me some advises to correct the content about the copyright issue.Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pong.chiang (talk • contribs) 06:51, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Pong.chiang: At 23:04, 12 December 2015 User:Diannaa found that page MiTAC Holdings was an "unambiguous copyright infringement of web pages http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?sedol=BDRZRW9 and http://www.msgroup.com.tw/mitac_holdings_en.asp ". If User:Pong.chiang has the right to copy those two web pages, then please say so. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:00, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Anthony Appleyard:I will change the content and add a extra link to those two website.But MiTAC Holdings had been deleted.How can I recover this article or you can help me.Thanks! 03:17, 25 December 2015 User:Pong.chiang
- @Pong.chiang: I have put a copy of it in User talk:Pong.chiang/MITAC. (And, at the end of each of each message that you insert, please put ~~~~ (four tildes); Wikipedia will change it into a signature.) [User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] (talk) 06:00, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Anthony Appleyard: Please help me to check this revise is OK or not in User talk:Pong.chiang/MITAC.If this revise is not OK, please give me a detail advise to revise it.Thanks!Pong.chiang (talk) 04:00, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Pong.chiang: I have edited User talk:Pong.chiang/MITAC:
- I removed the text that was a copyright violation of http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?sedol=BDRZRW9
- I tried to make it less like an advertisement: see WP:SPAM and WP:NN and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
- If User:Pong.chiang has the right to copy text from http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?sedol=BDRZRW9 and/or http://www.msgroup.com.tw/mitac_holdings_en.asp, then please say so. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:21, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Anthony Appleyard: The current version User talk:Pong.chiang/MITAC is OK? My company want me to recover the MiTAC Holdings,all user can search at least.Please help me to recover the MiTAC Holdings.The new content of the MiTAC Holdings will be uploaded later.Thanks!Pong.chiang (talk) 02:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Pong.chiang: I have put a copy of the original text of MiTAC Holdings in User talk:Pong.chiang/MITAC/old. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Dear Anthony, Following protracted discussions at Talk:Arabesque_(Islamic_art)#Merge_discussion and Talk:Arabesque, the current Arabesque (Islamic art) should be moved to the plain term over the current redirect, with Arabesque (disambiguation) remaining for the rest. I can't do this, & I'd be very grateful if you could execute, Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 16:56, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:41, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Johnbod (talk) 01:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing history of The Morecambe & Wise Show
Hi there,
Thanks for sorting out the problem with the history of The Morecambe & Wise Show after it was cut-and-paste moved; much appreciated!
I hope you won't mind me asking another question, but is it possible to insert a note in the history of List of The Morecambe & Wise Show episodes to account for the fact that this content-merging edit didn't acknowledge the original source of the material (i.e. List of The Morecambe & Wise Show (1978–1983) episodes)? (Obviously(?) we can't merge the histories in this case, since the new article is derived from more than one source article).
If you're busy, or if it's more hassle than I'd expected to do that, please don't feel obliged to do that yourself. All the best!
Ubcule (talk) 18:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Ubcule: Done in Talk:List of The Morecambe & Wise Show episodes Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:44, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- I hadn't been sure if it was possible for admins (unlike a regular user like myself) to include the info in the actual article history itself- which was what I'd had in mind. Apologies if that wasn't doable and I wasted your time getting you to do something I should have done myself (i.e. note on the talk page), but thanks for doing it anyway! All the best, Ubcule (talk) 22:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Tobacco (Last Week Tonight with John Oliver) listed at Redirects for discussion
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Dispute with RGloucester re Politics of France
Hey Anthony,
I'm asking you to help User:RGloucester and me settle a dispute regarding the articles Political system of France, Politics of France and Political history of France, as you (IMHO correctly) reverted (2) his edits then on the basis of them being "disputable". Because of RGloucester's out-of-process cut-and-paste edits, the topic however has become a bit complicated now. I'm however mainly interested in finding a good encyclopedic solution, both resultwise and processwise.
From how it looks to me, RGloucester used the result of this move debate as a cover for his further WP:BOLD edits, though they were not really covered by the discussion. Now if for some reason he came to that conclusion, it can't be held against him. Still, his edits remain out-of-process, because undiscussed and needlessly disrupting the considerable page histories. They also remain contestable and I'm contesting them now as you did then.
What was done? Basically Political system of France (1) was blanked and redirected with the content being pasted as a replacement at Politics of France (2). The latter articles original content was cut and pasted to a new article Political history of France (3). Technically, the correct procedure would have been renaming (1) to (2), and (2) to (3), thereby conserving all the considerable page and talk page history. As no overly significant edits have been made since then, we can IMHO still roll back those edits instead of importing history versions back and forth.
Contentwise, "Political history of France" seems appropriate, but the other cut-and-paste-move doesn't. Today's content at Politics of France in fact just covers the Political system of France in a detailed way, so the original title was just right and there was no need to cut-and-paste it to another place. In order to fix the issue correctly, both technically and contentwise, I therefore propose:
- Revert Political system of France to its longstanding version ahead of the disputed edits.
- Revert Politics of France to its longstanding version ahead of the disputed edits.
- Move Politics of France to Political history of France, this time correctly.
- Create a new overview article (in the beginning a stub) at Politics of France which in the appropriate sections refers to Political system of France and Political history of France as the respective main articles.
Now I'm basically asking you if you could help me how to bring this forward procedurewise. Regards, PanchoS (talk) 08:47, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
- @PanchoS: At 04:10, 29 December 2015 Awilley blocked RGloucester from editing.
- Page Government of France has been edited much by RGloucester.
- (Please note that I know little about French politics.)
- Done 1 2 3 4 hereinabove. I moved the old Political history of France to Political history of France (version 2). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:11, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, this makes France inconsistent with every other country that has a "Politics of" article. See Politics of Canada, Politics of Germany, Politics of Belgium, Politics of Italy, Politics of Algeria, Politics of Luxembourg, Politics of Switzerland, etc. There is nothing about France that makes its political structure or history so different that it should treated differently in its titling. It goes against title policy for consistency, and creates a massive number of disambiguation links that are going to waste the time of disambiguators, who will be "fixing" links that will only be overridden by a later resolution. It is also a WP:TWODABS page with a clear primary topic established by this precedent. This title should at least redirect accordingly, until this dispute is resolved. bd2412 T 14:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Please continue this discussion at Talk:Political system of France#Move? (30 December 2015). |
- OK, good idea, but first let me say thank you for fixing it rightaway! Cheers and a happy New Year! --PanchoS (talk) 07:55, 31 December 2015 (UTC)