Talk:Robert Aumann
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[edit]PSI is clearly a far-right organisation. You can read on their own website that they are at the right of Sharon and Likud.
Just do not stop at the front page, where they define themselves as a "non-partisan organization of academics united by a shared concern for the security and the Jewish character of the State of Israel", which had been directly copy-pasted to Wikipedia.
Read on the "PSI statements" section and you will see that they have tried to lobby Sharon's governement (which belongs to the right-wing party) to disengage the settlements from Gaza. They say that Sharon's decision is "ethnic cleansing".
http://www.professors.org.il/releases/08aug05.htm
They also totally oppose the creation of a palestinian state :
http://www.professors.org.il/releases/14feb03.htm
They strongly oppose Sharon's governement.
82.230.102.65 21:55, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- The Nobel Committee must have been aware of Aumann's political activity, and still regarded his work worthy of a prize. By extension, the prize should have been denied to Arafat, who never officially distanced himself from terrorism. Isn't it ironic that a scientist whose scientific interest is to study the origins of war is called a "warmonger" by his detractors? JFW | T@lk 17:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- The controversy is well spread by now and a wikipedia article should somehow refer to it, especially as it is "ironic" that his studies are related to conflict research. He is said to oppose disarmament which in its own is quite controversial. Arafats prize is much more controversial, especially for being a peace prize, and this is also stated on several places in wikipedia. 130.225.79.64 (talk · contribs)
- Suppresses sarcastic comment about unilateral disarmament. The article does cover Aumann's membership of PSI, and the reader is invited to form his own opinion, which is perhaps the core principle of WP:NPOV. JFW | T@lk 17:32, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Please respect the right to discuss Aumann's Political use of game threory
[edit]It seems that a few "good friends" of Auman take care to revert anything that criticise his political usage of his public appearances.
As scientists, we should educate the people about what belong to science, especially game theory, and what depends on personal assesment of a political situation.
Auman shamefully uses his position to claim on Israeli TV that "game theory " justifies his extreme right wing views.. This is incorrect and we have a right to discuss this.
- Are you a greater expert on game theory than Aumann, that you can claim that he is incorrect? Or is it just that you disagree with him? Scientists speak out all the time on social and political issues relating to their fields, and usually their views are given greater weight, as long as they are politically correct, that is.Pedantrician (talk) 06:25, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Discuss, yes. On this talk page. But in the article you have no right to edit at all if you cannot adhere to WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. If you write "Similar codes were also found in works of fiction as "war and peace", making the whole bible code affair another example how people with scientific background can sometimes miserably lose their common sense" you are imposing your opinion on the reader, something that no encyclopedia would ever do. Similarly saying that he was criticised for using game theory to explain political views without mentioning the critics means that you are the critic. Your edits will be reverted until you can adhere to those basic policies. You will find that you can say more or less the same things in an acceptable way. JFW | T@lk 22:10, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Aumann's wisdom
[edit]I just added Aumann's latest views on Israeli politics. Finally he seems to have acknowledged the obvious fact that Israel is in troble. His proposed remedy, however, is surprisingly refreshing..
Adinov 02:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
the medal is the wrong one
[edit]The gold medal shown above the picture is the one used for the normal Nobel prizes. The economics prize uses a different medal, see [1]. McKay (talk) 03:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Merger proposal
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result was do not merge Aumann's Agreement Theorem into this article. -- Qwfp (talk) 14:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
A very short article with one ref, Aumann's Agreement Theorem ,meaning something like "informed people cannot agree to disagree" was created today about a theorem stated by Aumann in 1976. I propose to merge that 2 sentence article into this one. Edison (talk) 14:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- I concur. The Aumann's Agreement Theorem article is really too short to stand on its own, and any expansion of it would certainly be too technical for Wikipedia's general audience. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. This is a well known theorem which has implications in a variety of areas including philosophy of science. It should be fleshed out, not merged. JoshuaZ (talk) 05:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- Disagree. If that theorem was the only thing Aumann was known for, it would be appropriate. But it isn't. McKay (talk) 08:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- Also disagree. The Aumann's Agreement Theorem article needs to be expanded rather than merged into this article.radek (talk) 02:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree, unless we can have some guarantee that a section about Aumann's Agreement Theorem wouldn't be removed from the article once moved here. I find it to be an important theorem, even if it is really simple. --98.209.136.197 (talk) 21:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree, as the article about the theorem looks more like a stub than a finished encyclopedia article. It is popularly expressed. A Bayesian theorem should have some mathematical notation. This should be add to the theorem page. Sae1962 (talk) 21:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Of course, just because it's not merged in doesn't mean it can't even be mentioned in the article! Editing to give a quick mention. In medias res (talk) 07:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Replace slash with dash
[edit]I change Israeli/American to Israeli-American since it's usually the way we mention it.-- And Rew 00:55, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
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Links for reference
[edit]I removed these links from the external links section per WP:ELNO. They may be useful for future reference.
- Robert Aumann: CV
- Robert Aumann at the Mathematics Genealogy Project
- Extensive interview of Prof. Aumann shortly before his selection as the Nobel laureate by Sergiu Hart
- Nobel Prize Announcement
- More information about that Nobel Prize
- Recording of the Nobel Prize announcement and Prof. Aumann's reaction to the prize
- János Bolyai Prize
- Center for the Study of Rationality
- Stony Brook Center for Game Theory
- Solution to Talmud bankruptcy problem, from the Journal of Economic Theory, 1985
- A report from the first press conference shortly after the announcement (with picture) (Hebrew)
- Nobel laureate seeks 'cure' for war
- Chris McGreal. Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize, Guardian, December 10, 2005.
- "Madness in the method" by Bar-Hillel and Margalit (explains Aumann's role in the Torah codes controversy).
- An accessible summary by Aumann of his work and thoughts on economics in the Talmud
- Biography of Robert Aumann from the Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences
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