Talk:Revolutionary Girl Utena

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Needs a clean-up and expansion

Gonna be taking a crack at cleaning this article up and fleshing it out over the next few weeks. Right now I see the major problems as a) large swaths of unsourced material, especially in sections that aren't straight descriptions of plot or acknowledging the existence of various pieces of Utena-related media; b) basically zero focus on the series' impact and legacy; and c) the tone the article is written in, which is vaguely unencyclopedic and over-long in many parts. Morgan695 (talk) 06:07, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Update progress

• Intro Paragraph: Ongoing; did a re-write and will take a second pass once the rest of the article is finalized
• Main infobox: done
• Plot: done
• Production: not done
• Themes: not done
• Primary Media: not done
  • Manga: in progress
  • Anime television series: not done
  • Anime film: done
• Related media: not done
  • Music: not done
  • Stage shows: done
  • Other media: light novel done, video game not done
• Releases: not done
• Reception: not done
• Influence and legacy: not done
• External links: done

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Revolutionary Girl Utena/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TeenAngels1234 (talk · contribs) 19:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm gonna review this. Stay tuned.TeenAngels1234 (talk) 19:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

• It's not stringent for the purpose of promotion, but can't the two articles be created for Hasegawa and Oguro? Even a few lines would be fine. They are definitely encyclopedic because they have participated in and written successful and relevant works beyond Utena.
  • I'll look into seeing if I can't make at least stub articles for them both.
• I would suggest adding a summary of the Reception section in the lead.
  • Done.
• I know what gyaru are, but can you make it more explicit by explaining it?
  • I'm not sure how to best approach this one. I don't think gyaru in this context requires any more explanation than "a boisterous woman", but that just seems repetitious with the context the quote already gives.
• I would suggest explaining who said "influenced by idiosyncrasies."
  • Done
• I would avoid explicit references to other sections, such as "See Soundtrack and music below."
  • Done.
• "Saito ultimately expressed an affirmative position on how the series presented the relationship between the characters." Can you explain further? I'm not sure I understand.
  • That she ultimately has spoken positively of the decision to depict them as a couple; I've rephrased the section.
• Soukatsu shite. Can you add the Japanese text with the Nihongo template and translation?
  • Done.

@Morgan695: That's all for now. Good work.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 09:38, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@TeenAngels1234: Hi, response above. Morgan695 (talk) 19:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Okay. Then:

• Perhaps capitalization for "for western audiences" would be better?
  • Done.
• Perhaps "Animerica described" is better than "Animerica characterized."
  • Done.
• "patcicipating." Probably a typo.
  • Done.
• Ikuhara's comment in Reception seems superfluous to me.
  • I disagree; a creator specifically acknowledging that a series continues to have a following two decades-plus after its release specifically because of its LGBT fans feels relevant to a section on its impact and legacy.
• I would suggest moving the content regarding Evangelion to the Themes section, perhaps creating a separate subsection.
  • Giving it its own section under Themes feels like it would be WP:UNDUE to me, but I'm not sure the paragraph makes sense anywhere other than under Reception.

@Morgan695: That's all I can find. The rest seems to me to be not only from GA, but perhaps also from FA. As a long-time Utena fan somewhat upset by the anime's poor recognition on Wikipedia and elsewhere, I am pleased. Great job.TeenAngels1234 (talk) 20:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@TeenAngels1234: Hi, response above. Morgan695 (talk) 01:19, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Brief summa. The entire article is verifiable and full of reliable sources. The prose is excellent, like an AF. Exposition practically flawless. Editing was timely and appropriate. Great job.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 17:55, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 13:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

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• Comment or view
• Article history

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• ... that director Kunihiko Ikuhara created the anime series Revolutionary Girl Utena after becoming frustrated by his lack of creative control as a director of the anime series Sailor Moon? Source: "The Power to Revolutionize the World, or Absolute Gender Apocalypse?: Queering the New Fairy-Tale Feminine in Revolutionary Girl Utena"
  • ALT1: ... that Tomoko Kawakami, who voiced the title role in the anime series Revolutionary Girl Utena, secured the role in part because she did not read the character description before auditioning? Source: "ウテナ白書" [Utena Dossier]
  • ALT2: ... that director Kunihiko Ikuhara developed the cast of his anime series Revolutionary Girl Utena using the self-described principle of "never give a character only one personality"? Source: Revolutionary Girl Utena: 20th Anniversary Ultra Edition
  • Reviewed: Lee Chih-kai

Improved to Good Article status by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 26 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Revolutionary Girl Utena; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: @Morgan695: Good article. AGF on sources I can't access. waiting on QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Hi, QPQ has been completed. Morgan695 (talk) 00:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:01, 27 February 2023 (UTC)